House & Garden Nutrients

[Treetroit City]

ruined two crops never again , charts are way way off , they owe me 20,000 for failers

Buy a fucking E.C. meter! I hear you can get one for a lot less than 20,000

 

[farmdalefurr]

ive ran their entire coco line damn near...... cocos a/b, algen extract, drip clean, roots excel, top booster, bud xl, shooting powder.

i always went w/ my ppm/e.c. meter instead of their calculator.

ugghhh..... looking at what i just typed..... i cant believe i ever ran that many bottles at once. im down to maxibloom, floralicious +, liquid/dry koolbloom and have better results than when i ran w/ house/garden or even AN. my billfold is much fatter now 2 lol.

 

[Roof Berry]

Can someone post the guaranteed analysis on the aqua flakes bottles?

 

[VagPuncher]

Does anybody add cal+mag with the Coco AB?

 

[MaynardG_Krebs]

Does anybody add cal+mag with the Coco AB?

I spoke with an H&G tech (who knows how qualified they are), but he told me that the Coco formulation has the proper amount of Calcium and Magnesium to run in Coco without supplementation.

mgk

 

[greenthumbdub]

Does anybody add cal+mag with the Coco AB?

yes, I have to add calmag for all of my current strains. I use botanicare's calmag at between 1-3ml per gal depending on where i'm at in the plants cycle. If I dont add calmag I get yellow and deficient fairly quick with my recipe

 

[catalyte]

now that were talking about their COCO products, what is the general consensus about it's performance in said medium?

 

[MaynardG_Krebs]

now that were talking about their COCO products, what is the general consensus about it's performance in said medium?

I used it for a couple years.. decided I wanted to go back to a 'rock' type medium and i'm using Rocks (a Sunleaves product) now and run them with recirculated feed system. It works great and I can reuse the medium. It's difficult for me to discreetly get rid of coco or dirt after a harvest, so the reusable medium for me is a good thing..

mgk

 

[TripleDraw27]

Maxi users who have used H&G line before. Taste comparison of end product between the two is like what?
Friend tells me H&G has blander taste from other lines he ran. Any truth to this bullshit?

 

[Double F]

i really want to try HandG, but i hear that if you dont use their entire line shit drops out of line..

 

[VagPuncher]

I spoke with an H&G tech (who knows how qualified they are), but he told me that the Coco formulation has the proper amount of Calcium and Magnesium to run in Coco without supplementation.

mgk

yes, I have to add calmag for all of my current strains. I use botanicare's calmag at between 1-3ml per gal depending on where i'm at in the plants cycle. If I dont add calmag I get yellow and deficient fairly quick with my recipe

Im getting some yellowing. Thinking it's a lack of CalMag. Right between the veins. Interveinal chlorosis or whatever it's called.

Planted babies in 100% coco and fed them at 600ppm of A-B, RExcel and DClean. Gonna add CMag tmrw.

 

[VagPuncher]

Oh, another thing.

I have a few grows in a few different cities.

I add COCO A and then B in one city and PH ends up around 6.2 before I add PH down.

I drive 45 min and do the same thing, but this time when I add the COCO B, the PH drops to 3.8

Same nutes.

What gives?

 

[krunchbubble]

Im getting some yellowing. Thinking it's a lack of CalMag. Right between the veins. Interveinal chlorosis or whatever it's called.

Planted babies in 100% coco and fed them at 600ppm of A-B, RExcel and DClean. Gonna add CMag tmrw.

it DOES need calmag supplement....

but also make sure you follow there directions on HOW to mix the nutrient, or the calmag locks out....

Oh, another thing.

I have a few grows in a few different cities.

I add COCO A and then B in one city and PH ends up around 6.2 before I add PH down.

I drive 45 min and do the same thing, but this time when I add the COCO B, the PH drops to 3.8

Same nutes.

What gives?

had this happen as well. water from the industrial area's would have this dramatic ph swings, while the grows in the houses, stayed stable...
but it would be only certain times of the year? its like the water company would change formulas or something...

 

[greenthumbdub]

Oh, another thing.

I have a few grows in a few different cities.

I add COCO A and then B in one city and PH ends up around 6.2 before I add PH down.

I drive 45 min and do the same thing, but this time when I add the COCO B, the PH drops to 3.8

Same nutes.

What gives?

I use RO but for the most part my PH ends up right around 4-4.5 and I always have to PH up but that could be because of C+M.

Also listen to what krunch says, you really need to mix everything well or you will get sediment and lockout. I give each bottle a good shake for a few seconds then I stir in part A for a few minutes. Before adding B, let your solution sit for another few minutes to allow everything to mix properly and then add B. After B I add calmag, then PH up to 5.8 or 6

Just to be noted, I do not use pumps in my res otherwise I would probably just turn the pump on and let mix without stirring by hand.

 

[VagPuncher]

Thanks guys!

I do the same thing. Fill up 40 gallons and add A, let the mondi mix it for 5 min and then add B. Fill up 10 more gallons and let it mix and then PH it to 5.8.

Then I add the RExcel and DClean.

Gonna get some MagiCal today.

 

[krunchbubble]

Thanks guys!

I do the same thing. Fill up 40 gallons and add A, let the mondi mix it for 5 min and then add B. Fill up 10 more gallons and let it mix and then PH it to 5.8.

Then I add the RExcel and DClean.

Gonna get some MagiCal today.

HaHA!!!!! love my MONDI!!!! yellow powerhouse!

 

[VagPuncher]

HaHA!!!!! love my MONDI!!!! yellow powerhouse!

Won't work without one!

 

[Suspect]

If I were to choose all new H&G nutrients.
What kind of products would you wiser recommend for a classical Hempy Bucket?

 

[krunchbubble]

If I were to choose all new H&G nutrients.
What kind of products would you wiser recommend for a classical Hempy Bucket?

the whole line....

by far the best nutrient out....

 

[the_extremist]

H+G Cocos A has 12% Calcium in it, you for sure don't need CalMag, even with R/O water. However, their Magnesium is imo, super low, like .8% I believe. Adding a pinch of epsom salts to your mix, like between .5 and 1 gram per gallon should fix any yellowing from Mag deficiency without adding a shitload of Ca and throwing off H+G's ratios.

Between the guaranteed analysis and speaking with an H+G rep, the numbers for Cocos A+B together are:
5.4% N
3.4% P
9.4% K
12% Ca
.8% Mg

When I ran these numbers through the Cannastats nutrient calculator I got these elemental ppm numbers @ 7.5ml per gallon of A+B:

N: 119
P: 34
K: 175
Ca: 262
Mg: 18

Seems like a pretty good NPK profile for sure. Again, shitloads of Calcium obviously, and what looks to me like not quite enough Magnesium, probably want it closer to 35-40ppm.

For the record, I just switched to H+G in coco using Cocos A+B, Drip Clean, Roots Excel, and Algen Extract in R/O water. I've been adding .5 gram of epsoms per gallon to that mix and the girls look incredible. Flawless plants and it blows me away how fast they grow (I just switched from organic soil). Still a couple more weeks of veg left before I flip the lights, but so far H+G in coco is blowing away soil growing in both rate of growth and plant health, no contest. Unfortunately I have no experience with any other fert brands in coco, but I have used Botanicare PBP in a peat mix before and this method blows that away too.

H+G rocks so far. I'm stoked to see how the flowers end up. I have high hopes based on how well the veg is going.