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Canniwhatsis

High country cat herder
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any advice for total room bug sterilizeation while there are no plants in it?looking for something that will kill all bugs and critters? i want to start new with no left over bugs in the hard to get spaces, ive used drdoom bug bomb, but imo it works ok, but nothing special....you really need alot of cans to get the job done, and i dont know how effective it is against all bugs...


I wish!

When I cleaned up after what I thought was RA's I hit everything with neem, Don't bug me, and Mighty wash in an empty flowering room.
 

joe fresh

Active member
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well i been looking around at Hypoaspis miles



what i got dont look like these, these are way too big
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what i got looks more like this but hard to tell because its such a close up, would be easier to see if they were a bit further away
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what i got also looks pretty much exactly like these but are more white/translucent
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and this also looks like what i got
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so looking at these maybe i do have Hypoaspis miles.....either way i want them gone for next run incase...i dont like any bugs in my shit, lol
 

Grow Tech

I've got a stalk of sinsemilla growing in my back
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any advice for total room bug sterilizeation while there are no plants in it?looking for something that will kill all bugs and critters? i want to start new with no left over bugs in the hard to get spaces, ive used drdoom bug bomb, but imo it works ok, but nothing special....you really need alot of cans to get the job done, and i dont know how effective it is against all bugs...

You can spray everything with High concentration bleach water. Just make sure you get the fuck outta the room before you die form the chlorine fumes. Its serious stuff that'll burn your eyes & lungs pretty quickly. On the upside, once it dries and the air exchanges some your safe to go back in without gnarly residue
 

ballplayer 2

Active member
Glad to see this thread blow up with activity. It seemed to me that these were certainly not beneficial to me either. Mine were also present alongside gnat activity. I used Fox Farm soils, not certain its where they are coming from, but a possibility.

My plants seemed to stall by three weeks into flower. I let my plants go 5 weeks. My plants developed very slowly, and the flowers never really attempted to begin swelling. I seemed to get random leaf damage, nothing that looked like the plant was going to keel over. However, the plants were clearly not thriving or progressing. Water/nutrient uptake was DEFINITELY effected negatively. I chopped and cleaned after the 5 weeks of frustration. I let my room lie fallow for two months, before I started up again, they came back.

During the summer I had these small white ones Joe is showing in the video in this thread. Along with the ones Cannawhatsis is showing in the pictures in this thread (more reddish). When the containers would get knocked they would all come out and run circles around the rim of the containers. Gnats were present at this time as well.

I'm not sure what these are. I hope they are not root aphids, or a nasty parasitic mite. It could be possible these come around when they sense any form of root rot, which could also explain the gnats. That's kind of what I am hoping anyhow, since that is obviously much more reparable. I know the roots which were near the top of my pots (thick stem roots) did not look well, seemed to have some reddish/brownish scarring. I just know that when these are around, my plants dont look good. They populate profusely.

Thank you for your time and interest guys. Hopefully we can figure these out.

BP
 

drum_halfzware

New member
Here's the reference material you need (everyone on here should own this book):

Hemp Diseases and Pests: Management and Biological Control

J. M. McPartland, R. C. Clarke, and D. P. Watson

ISBN 10= 0-85199-454-7
ISBN 13= 978-085199-454-7

McPartland has a D.O. and is Assistant Professor at University of Vermont

Clarke wrote 'Marijuana Botany' which is a well-referenced, scholarly work.

Watson is the Chair of the International Hemp Organization

While everyone on this forum should obtain this literature, most people will bitch and complain about it because GW Pharmaceuticals has their logo on the cover. Oh well. It's about a £60-65 investment. It'll pay for itself in short order. Obtain the literature to solve the problem.
 

cobcoop

Puttin flame to fire
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soil mites is what i was thinking...except they are not seeming too beneficial, to me it seems as they affect plant health and a plants ability to take in nutes...

I'm with ya man. Safer insecticidal soap should kill them. I also believe they negatively effect the plants health. Supposedly they eat gnat larvae, and are supposed to be beneficial. I'm not so inclined to think they are good house guests.

Glad to see this thread blow up with activity. It seemed to me that these were certainly not beneficial to me either. Mine were also present alongside gnat activity. I used Fox Farm soils, not certain its where they are coming from, but a possibility.

My plants seemed to stall by three weeks into flower. I let my plants go 5 weeks. My plants developed very slowly, and the flowers never really attempted to begin swelling. I seemed to get random leaf damage, nothing that looked like the plant was going to keel over. However, the plants were clearly not thriving or progressing. Water/nutrient uptake was DEFINITELY effected negatively. I chopped and cleaned after the 5 weeks of frustration. I let my room lie fallow for two months, before I started up again, they came back.

During the summer I had these small white ones Joe is showing in the video in this thread. Along with the ones Cannawhatsis is showing in the pictures in this thread (more reddish). When the containers would get knocked they would all come out and run circles around the rim of the containers. Gnats were present at this time as well.

I'm not sure what these are. I hope they are not root aphids, or a nasty parasitic mite. It could be possible these come around when they sense any form of root rot, which could also explain the gnats. That's kind of what I am hoping anyhow, since that is obviously much more reparable. I know the roots which were near the top of my pots (thick stem roots) did not look well, seemed to have some reddish/brownish scarring. I just know that when these are around, my plants dont look good. They populate profusely.

Thank you for your time and interest guys. Hopefully we can figure these out.

BP


Yep, I got em courtesy of fox farm as well. I'm in total agreement. They must be killed. I noticed a lack of vigor as well.
 

MIway

Registered User
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u can kill most of em w imid treatments... but at least one species seems to manage even w that.

only way i know to 100% get of em all, 100% of the time... run the room dry for the better part of 2weeks... totally dry. then hopefully they don't come back in the next wet bag of soil... ;-)
 

drum_halfzware

New member
Make tobacco tea. Strain tobacco from tea. Spray tea on plants. Nicotine is an effective insecticide which has been used for centuries.
 

dr.penthotal

Chasing the orange grapefruit rabbit
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Hallo folks.
I found this thread 2 days ago, after posting mine.
Your video was really helpful to identify my problem.
I think we have kinda the same.
Take a look at my thread for the whole story.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?p=4994517#post4994517

I think these are tyrophagus putrescentiae.
I got my infestation from some hay of alfalfa I bought and used as mulching.
Do you grow organic? Do you mulch?
Anyway they're common in anywhere in anyplace. They're dust mites.
On my crop I didn't see any damage, I just see the growing of their population.
They are facultatively phytophagus, so they eat mostly fungi, sometimes they feed on plants.

If Hypoaspis miles is your guess, I wouldn't bother. They're predators and they're good. Predators usually have longer legs, are larger and a sort of more acuminate head. If you grow organic you can have many beneficial decomposer bugs.
You say you have fungus gnats? you see them in the soil or see them flying? or both? can't be those springtails? they're good....
If you have plenty of them you probably see some orbatid mite and some gamasid wandering around (larger, longer legs, usually orange/brown), which pray on them and other insects/fungi.

I used this book for the final identification. A new must for me in my bookshelf! And also a wonderful resource for any mite problem. I love the technical infos on identification of species. A perfect side companion to Connel Clarke book.

Mites of greenhouses identification, biology and control. by Zhi-Qiang Zhang

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...RIZaDtRAx3LNx6wIg&sig2=vCnG26cB7mA3_0EIhoGoXw

Better focusing I realized I already faced with those in the past.
When I fought thrips I tried some tripex from koppert, which is neoseiulus cucumberis, provided with bran and bran mites (trypophagus pt.) to feed them for the delivery. Those mites liked the humid environment of the rotting bran under my mulch, but their population didn't grow because of their predator, so never became a problem.
I remember a lot of them, together with Neo. cuc. dying trapped on trichomes. This is the reason why I want to act fast and buy some neoseiulus again to control mites population.

Hope this helps. Please wait before some harsh chemical spraying.
Now my knowledge on mites went deep... I love this....
Dr.P
 

dr.penthotal

Chasing the orange grapefruit rabbit
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Veteran
So are we at a consensus that these are dust mites, and generally harmless?

In my grow they seem to be Tyrophagus putrescentiae, dust mite or bran mite.
I'll have some more datas soon when releasing predatory mites. I'll keep up posting.
Dr.P
 
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dude fungus gnat larva can damage plants.. by eating all the root hairs and shit.. i know a couple people with these things.. and it seems to me.. they eat fungus gnats.. !!! or the larva of them.. the soil mites havent had any issue on multiple peoples grows.. so u mite have RA?
 
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