Ron Paul 2012!!! Your thoughts on who we should pick for our "Cause"?

[itisme]

Golden streets don't have to mean "Streets of Gold"

Intresting you make that refernce. I saw a great video and this guy actualy died.

Man dies, comes back to life, what he saw: GREAT VIDEO, I think.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRSjzY0s0SM

Listen to his "STREETS OF GOLD"@ 7:00 TIMESTAMP but he described it more like a "RIVER OF GOLD" or "RIVER OF LIFE"

Also consciousness doesn't not require a brain.. there is a some research out there that says plants may be even more conscious than us. Mycelium is even sentient.

I agree and I have said for years that we are all connected...... Plants communicate with each other and even help each other to exsist by sharing resources. Karma is real too. I belive people give off vibes. I know and most people have said, "you can feel the tension in the air." How is that? Because we are all connected. I also beleive we are all Gods children too.

 

[Rukind]

Golden streets don't have to mean "Streets of Gold"

Intresting you make that refernce. I saw a great video and this guy actualy died.

Man dies, comes back to life, what he saw: GREAT VIDEO, I think.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRSjzY0s0SM

Listen to his "STREETS OF GOLD" but he described it more like a "RIVER OF GOLD" or "RIVER OF LIFE"

Also consciousness doesn't not require a brain.. there is a some research out there that says plants may be even more conscious than us. Mycelium is even sentient.

I agree and I have said for years that we are all connected......We are

I have seen that video yes.

I am just telling you that saying you know what happens when you die is a fact.. is not open minded... not saying you are wrong.

Me saying death is like dmt is not a fact or that plants are concious.

or that the kybalion is even fact.. although the kybalion isn't really meant to be religions.. more so a foundation of what life is and its principles.

but be honest, most christians are waiting to see golden streets when they die. to me that doesnt make much sense and I would hope people dont think that is a fact. A man in the sky with a robe and long brown hair.. its just not for me. I dont see how death has anything to do with being a human. So Christianity or what most people make of it, doesn't sit well with me. Same with atheism, though.

It doesn't matter what you believe though, man.. If being a christian makes you happy and improves your life, then stick to it. If thats what you want. Your reality is what you make it. This is your life and who is to say that christianity is wrong.

 

[itisme]

but be honest, most christians are waiting to see golden streets when they die. to me that doesnt make much sense and I would hope people dont think that is a fact.

Honestly I don't think so. I don't think we can completely understand much of the world. The more I learn the less I feel I know. I have stated nothing as an absolute but I do strongly believe the Illuminati is trying to take our freedom away and they worship Satan. I beleive in God, Jesus, and the Holy Ghost but that is just me.

I have also seen what can only be called a ghost once in my life. This helps me believe in the Spiritual realm much easier than if I hadn't seen what I saw. I know more tin foil cap comments are coming but I don't hold back my tongue when I am saying what I think or believe. I also don't expect anybody to take my word for anything. That is why I posted some good links and vids. I am just trying to inform people. They can do or think what they chose....Mostly they ignore the condemning issues and call me crazy. I don't care.

 

[Rukind]

Honestly I don't think so. I don't think we can completely understand much of the world. The more I learn the less I feel I know. I have stated nothing as an absolute but I do strongly believe the Illuminati is trying to take our freedom away and they worship Satan. I beleive in God, Jesus, and the Holy Ghost but that is just me.

I have also seen what can only be called a ghost once in my life. This helps me believe in the Spiritual realm much easier than if I hadn't seen what I saw. I know more tin foil cap comments are coming but I don't hold back my tongue when I am saying what I think or believe. I also don't expect anybody to take my word for anything. That is why I posted some good links and vids. I am just trying to inform people. They can do or think what they chose....Mostly they ignore the condemning issues and call me crazy. I don't care.

I have had many weird things happen to me too. I will not call you crazy or mention a tin foil hat. Some of my experienced have proved to me that dying is not the end of consciousness. people say that is crazy too.

 

[itisme]

I have had many weird things happen to me too. I will not call you crazy or mention a tin foil hat. Some of my experienced have proved to me that dying is not the end of consciousness. people say that is crazy too.

Right on brother. It is weird. When I took classes like statistics and calculus and learn all this stuff....I just think. I only learned what I was taught. Somebody else figured that out. I marvel at the human mind and we have forgoten so much so much.

Funny before Avatar I used to tell people how far off we are with cars and the tools we use everyday. A Grizzy bear can be trained and their nose is 8 times more powerful than a bloodhound. They should look for bombs and sniff out cancer in a room full of people. Dogs can smell chemical embalances in humans and warn them before they go into episodes. This one kid had a crazy dibilitating disease and had issues all the time. They got a trained dog that alerted the parents when his body chemistry was getting out of balance. He hadn't had an episode since they got the dog when I saw the information. We should be riding lions and tigers around naked in my mind I'm just saying.

http://www.organicauthority.com/pets/the-sniff-sense-how-dogs-detect-diseases.html

There’s no denying dogs have a killer sense of smell. It’s actually 100,000 times more sensitive than ours. Dogs are capable of smelling everything from drugs to electricity to underground gas pipes and ovulating animals. But, the most amazing things dogs can sniff out are cancer, epilepsy and diabetes. By just smelling a patient’s urine, they can sniff out bladder cancer and they can diagnose early and late lung and breast cancer by smelling your breath. Dogs have also helped discover ovarian cancer and skin cancer since affected cells give off a different smell than healthy ones. How amazing is that?
What’s more amazing is that dogs are accurate 97 percent of the time compared to million dollar machines that only have a 90 percent accuracy rate. How do they do it? Certain diseases leave biomarkers that are secreted through urine or breath and dogs have the ability to detect these biomarkers in concentrations as diluted as a few parts per trillion.
Along with illnesses like cancer, dogs can also warn owners of blood-sugar drops, heart attacks and seizures. Instead of sniffing it out, dogs react to subtle changes in your behavior and eventually learn to remember those changes as markers. Dogs also learn to stay with and comfort their owners in times of need.

Scientists are now researching how the smells of certain diseases differ so they can use the same technique as dogs to detect illnesses and treat them early on. So, if your dog is acting strange around you, always sniffing at a different spot, or scratching, licking or biting a specific spot on your body, they may know something you don’t know. Watch your pup’s cues for a happy, healthy life.

 

[dramamine]

And yet flowers have no eyes. Orchids have no eyes. To imitate the female, the plant has to know what it looks like. So the plant knows what it looks like. Not only does it know what it looks like, it has to understand the practices that that animal undergoes in order to put itself in there to take advantage of that. A plant growing out in the wild is usually very weak. As they say, wild grass is no good. It's trash. But when people grow it, it keeps getting stronger and stronger.

I like your flow, but those flowers are shaped by their environment...natural selection. In this case, the bees played the role of breeder, selecting for the most lady bee looking ones.

 

[Rukind]

I like your flow, but those flowers are shaped by their environment...natural selection. In this case, the bees played the role of breeder, selecting for the most lady bee looking ones.

That is one way to look at it. It could be a sign of consciousness as well. Although, I would agree that your statement is most likely correct. It was directed more to the point that plants and humans or other creatures can interact and benefit each other on purpose. I think the point of that statement was to show how cannabis produces buds for humans and not so much as a self defensive mechanism.. considering herbivore's and omnivore's eat pounds of it and dont feel anything.

I was comparing plants being conscious with mycelium. Mycelium is sentient. Paul stamets talks about this in his TED talk. Also I have read a few of his books.

I am not saying plants are conscious for a fact, but I believe it. If paul stamets says mycelium is sentient, I believe it. So my point was, a brain is not needed for consciousness to happen.

 

[Storm Shadow]

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread810494/pg1

Ron Paul knows the truth about this ... Taboo topic for most

 

[itisme]

Paul: U.S. "slipping into a fascist system"
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57380947/paul-u.s--slipping-into-a-fascist-system/


(AP) KANSAS CITY, Mo. - Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul warned the U.S. is "slipping into a fascist system" dominated by government and businesses as he held a fiery rally Saturday night upstaging established Republican Party banquets a short distance away.


The Texas congressman drew a couple thousand standing and chanting people to Kansas City's Union Station as the party's establishment dined on steak across the street at the Missouri GOP's annual conference. Kansas Republicans were holding a similar convention in a suburb across the state line.


Paul staged his rally near the nation's World War I museum, asserting that the U.S. got off track about 100 years ago during the era of President Woodrow Wilson, who led the nation through World War I and unsuccessfully advocated for the nation's involvement in a forerunner of the United Nations.


"We've slipped away from a true Republic," Paul said. "Now we're slipping into a fascist system where it's a combination of government and big business and authoritarian rule and the suppression of the individual rights of each and every American citizen."


Although campaign aides were aware, Paul told reporters after his speech that he did not know his rally was coinciding with long-established Missouri and Kansas Republican Party events, where Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell — a vice presidential prospect — was the keynote speaker.


Several Republicans slipped away from the banquets to join the Paul rally. Among them was Ralph Munyan, a Republican committeeman in Kansas City's home county, who said he agreed with Paul's warnings of a "fascist system" and his pledge to the end nation's involvement in wars overseas and against drugs.


"His foreign policy is one of peace," Munyan said.


Paul repeatedly denounced President Barack Obama's recent enactment of a law requiring military custody of anyone suspected to be associated with al Qaeda and involved in planning an attack on the U.S. Obama said when he signed the legislation that his administration would not authorize the indefinite military detention of American citizens without a trial.

 

[itisme]

Ron Paul defeats Newt Gingrich, wins Georgia straw poll

Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul defeated former House Speaker Newt Gingrich Saturday to win a Georgia straw poll conducted by the Gwinnett County Republican Party, Suwanee Patch reports.
Mr. Paul bested Mr. Gingrich, a former Georgia congressman, with 115 votes. The Georgia Republican came in second with 73 votes and former Pennsylvania Senator Rick Santorum finished in third with 60 votes. Former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney finished at the bottom of the Republican pack with


Read more: http://www.thestatecolumn.com/artic...ngrich-wins-georgia-straw-poll/#ixzz1mq5pumIb

The results of the Georgia straw poll suggest that the latest Georgia polls may not be accurately measuring Mr. Paul’s support in the Peach State. A recent Landmark/Rosetta Stone poll of likely voters in the Georgia Republican primary found Mr. Paul with 5 percent of the votes and Mr. Gingrich with 35 percent of the votes. Other Peach State polls have found Mr. Gingrich with more than 40 percent of the votes.

Mr. Paul’s victory over Mr. Gingrich in the Georgia straw poll is enhanced by the fact that the Georgia Republican spoke later in the day at the same school where the straw poll was conducted.

Mr. Gingrich slammed President Barack Obama’s energy policies while speaking to supporters at Collins Hill High. The Georgia Republican said that the “left has a phobia about oil as an industry” and that Mr. Obama’s energy policies have hurt America’s oil industry.

While Mr. Gingrich has been campaigning in the South where he is expected to win several states, Mr. Paul has been campaigning in the Pacific Northwest. The former Air Force surgeon slammed the war on drugs Thursday.

“If we are allowed to deal with our eternity and all that we believe in spiritually, and if we’re allowed to read any book that we want under freedom of speech, why is it we can’t put into our body whatever we want?” Mr. Paul posited to a group of supporters in Vancouver, Washington, according to The Associated Press. The Texas congressman will face the remaining Republican candidates in the Washington Republican caucuses on March 3rd.

Mr. Paul’s victory in the Georgia straw poll is another example of the mobility and organization of his supporters. The Texas congressman has won numerous online and offline straw polls throughout the 2012 presidential race.


Read more: http://www.thestatecolumn.com/artic...ngrich-wins-georgia-straw-poll/#ixzz1mq4wPcry

 

[zymos]

No it was in reference to the "TIN FOIL HAT" "WINGNUT" comment before...Every comment is 100% retort to you alone...Elitist JK

That was me.

I'll take this one:
I find it amusingly ironic that all you PaulBots love to call everyone else "sheeples", yet will believe the most ridiculous stuff cause you read it on the Internet somewhere.

I know the personality type very well- people love to think that only they and their "club" know the truth because, with the help of other brilliant minds they were "shown the light". Everyone else is blind cause no one has shown them the "facts". Yet.

I'll say it straight up- the list of FEMA death camps under construction in each state? Complete paranoid bullshit.
US planted explosives in WTC? Same thing.


The War on Drugs is stupid and immoral. So is 99% of the US military involvement around the world. If you'd just stop there, you might help Paul get some more votes.

 

[itisme]

The War on Drugs is stupid and immoral. So is 99% of the US military involvement around the world. If you'd just stop there, you might help Paul get some more votes.

I'ld like to think I am more at the root of the issues than just making a genaralization in which almost everybody agrees. It is called getting down to the nitty gritty around here

I am actualy going to a local meeting in my city to do a straw poll vote and have reps from all 4 Candidates. I will let you all know the results.

Some people think they can dictate others thoughts, but not me.

I only stated you would had been a "sheeple" if you stated that the lady on the UN AGENDA 21 video was lying and just pass it off as another big nothing.

Why are you not focusing on the issues? You are just blasting me and my info that helped lead me to the same place you got to. I have a different perspective than you do. I can accept that, can you?

Now what about the people not being able to build on their own land? SHE IS IN CA. View it and stop the insults while you are just proving you choose to be INGNORANT.

What about the NWO? Did I put those videos up? Do they exsist? Just the ones where the President himself referenced it. Your rhetoric reeks of DELPHI TECHNIQUE APPLICATIONS. Why dimiss all this ONLY TO CALL ME STUPID REPEATEDLY?

What about building 7? I mean the BBC lady says it has fallen and the thing is still there. It is plain as day. Do you know anybody killed in 911? I kinow most of the families are not happy with the Gubbynati's version of "TRUTH".

What about the NEVER ENDING DRUG WAR? What effect has that had on society. Notice most of this stuff has been within tne last 100 YEARS!

Why am I right about the issues in your opinion but I got there a completely diferent way, therefore I am insane?
That sounds a little insane to me.
So....I am right...and I am crazy.
Fine line between love/hate, genious/crazy, sane/insane, right/wrong, good/evil, hhhmm?

 

[monkey5]

" NEVER ENDING DRUG WAR?" What effect has that had on society.? And here we are with THE ANSWER: https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=231937 The PRISON THREAD! Thank you! Sounds Like Freedom to me!??? NOT!!! monkey5

 

[monkey5]

ADD IN the Welfare & housing, Food stamps..medical costs for the woman & children who are left with out the man who is arrested! And what about all the legal costs..public defenders..court space..All union workers! Seperation..then brings break down of familys..That we are paying for MOSTLY TO ARREST people for "The Plant" ..PLEASE!! Gubberment Jobs Created! Thank You! monkey5

 

[greenmatter]

add a pinch of kardashian and you are really fucked

 

[itisme]

The GUBBYNATI is just like a black market when it comes to our economic and social freedoms.
Every single aspect of our life that the Gubbynati enter into has increased prices, fraud, deception, death and yet another layer of GUBBYNATI CONTROL.

Remember...some examples of Controls.
WTO
UN
NATO
NAM
FBI
CIA
DHS
FEMA
FED
IMF
EPA
FDA
OSHA
FAA
IRS
Dept of Energy
Dept of Commerce
Dept of MIS EDUCATION

Some real world examples in action:

50,000 people killed in MEXICO the last five years in drug related crimes, but why do we care? They are only Mexicans and live in our border country. WAKE UP!!!

Agenda 21- Is immenant domain to the MAXIMUM! See video I posted.

BlackWater already doing DEA work here.

FEMA CAMPS - New Orleans was a disaster, they cut off the main road in and out. FEMA turned water truck away so they could not get water and would not let supplies in.

FAA just cleared the way for 30,000 drones over the USA by 2020!

 

[bentom187]

GOVT, WARNING NOT TO MARCH ON WHITEHOUSE

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intresting thing,about this,is well the double standard here,support a march for soldiers and the constitution/RP as individuals and there will be consiquences if your active duty.
perform in a movie depicting the osb raid wich everyone assosiates with obama wich include 6 active duty seals ,and everything is A-ok.

this is either hypocracy or a bluff.

—–Original Message—–
From: Weger, Joel A CIV OGC, Ethics [mailto:joel.weger@NAVY.MIL]
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 8:17
To: ETHICS@LISTSERV.LAW.NAVY.MIL
Subject: [ETHICS] Partisan Political March
Importance: High

It has come to our attention that a partisan political march targeting
military personnel is being organized for February 20, 2012. See link
below:

http://www.facebook.com/events/192677970828185/?ref=notif&notif_t=event_invite

As a reminder, active duty personnel are prohibited by DoD Directive 1344.10
paragraph 4.1.2.10 from marching in a partisan political parade regardless
of whether they are in uniform or civilian clothes. Reservists not on
active duty and retirees may not march in uniform pursuant to paragraph
4.1.4. Reservists not on active duty and retirees may march in civilian
clothes provided that they do not otherwise act in a manner that could
reasonably give rise to the inference or appearance of official sponsorship,
approval, or endorsement.

The directive is a lawful general regulation. Violations of paragraphs 4.1.
through 4.5. of the Directive by persons subject to the Uniform Code of
Military Justice are punishable under Article 92, “Failure to Obey Order or
Regulation.”

In addition, DODI 1334.01, paragraph 3.1.2 prohibits the wearing of the
uniform by members of the armed forces (including retired members and
members of reserve components) during or in connection with political
activities.

You may wish to advise your command regarding this particular event because
of the apparent solicitation of active duty personnel.

Joel A. Weger
Senior Attorney
Department of the Navy
Office of the Assistant General Counsel (Ethics)
703.614.XXXX

 

[greenmatter]

i was not real pleased with the way the president "took care" of either the active or retired members when i was in the military and i have not been since

war on some scale seems to be a necessary evil no matter which fuck head was in charge at the time

but unlike a good carpenter that sees a hammer a necessary tool and takes good care of it these shitbags put/left and will continue to leave their hammer out in the cold to rust

spineless chickenhawk empty suits each and every one of em

 

[bentom187]

more debasment on the way.
http://money.cnn.com/2012/02/15/news/economy/pennies_nickels/index.htm?iid=GM
some states leaning toward gold.
http://money.cnn.com/2012/02/03/pf/states_currencies/index.htm?iid=EAL

i found this little article seems pretty intresting.


Gresham’s Law at Work: Pennies and Nickels Are Disappearing
Written by Bob Adelmann Tuesday, 13 December 2011 14:22

When Kyle Bass defended his decision on BBC Radio Hard Talk on November 17th to purchase 20 million nickels, he was just putting Gresham’s Law into operation. Bass, the founder and principal of the hedge fund Hayman Advisors, did the math and discovered that he could purchase 6.8 cents worth of copper in each nickel for just 5 cents. Nickels are 75 percent copper while pennies (minted between 1909 and 1982) are 95 percent copper and the recent spike in copper’s price simply made it too good a deal for Bass to pass up.

This is Gresham’s Law in action. The standard definition is that “bad money drives out good.” Simply put, when coins of lesser value are forced to be accepted alongside coins of greater value, the more highly valued coins will be hoarded. In other words, Gresham’s Law reflects the price-fixing disruption always inherent in legal tender laws. A better definition of Gresham’s Law might be “When a government compulsorily overvalues one type of money and undervalues another, the undervalued money will leave the country or disappear from circulation into hoards, while the overvalued money will flood into circulation.”

Prior to 1965 dimes and quarters were made of 90 percent silver and 10 percent nickel but with the Coinage Act of 1965 the silver content was removed and replaced with 75 percent copper and 25 percent nickel. Almost immediately the high intrinsic value dimes and quarters began to be hoarded as Gresham’s Law kicked in. Today a pre-1965 silver dime is worth about $2.40 in inflated Federal Reserve Notes.

Dr. Gary North defines Gresham’s Law more carefully by noting that the law only works when there is government intervention. In a free market, with consumers making individual decisions free of government mandates, good money will drive out bad money. As he explains:

In an economy with a government-legislated fixed price between two currency units, the artificially overvalued currency drives out of circulation the artificially undervalued currency.

North engages in a make-believe narrative to prove his point. From the earliest days of the American republic, the government tried to impose bimetallism onto the free market, mandating that gold was worth 15 times as much as silver. When gold was discovered in California in 1848, the flood of new gold onto the market changed the ratio, but the law didn’t. Here is North:

Let us say that you were there. You get a bright idea. You go to the bank with two ounces of gold. You demand 30 ounces of silver. Then you take your 30 ounces of silver and buy three ounces of gold. Where? Across the border in Canada or Mexico. (OK, it was a long ride on horseback. Maybe there were banking trading ships just off San Francisco.) You then take your three ounces of gold to the bank and demand 45 ounces of silver. You repeat the procedure until the bank has no more silver to sell at the price of 15 to one.

Of course, you would do this with ten times as much gold. Your competitors, currency speculators, would buy a thousand times as much gold.

The gold remains in circulation while the silver disappears. This is Gresham’s Law in action. And this is the law that Bass is following by purchasing twenty million nickels: he knows the nickels are undervalued and he is just doing his part in removing them from the market.

When Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) first introduced his “Free Competition in Currency Act” in December, 2009, he noted that gold and silver were the result of the free market making its choice about what commodities would best serve as money: “Gold and silver are difficult to counterfeit, a property which ensures they will always be accepted in commerce.”It is precisely for this reason that gold and silver are anathema to governments. A supply of gold and silver that is limited in supply by nature cannot be inflated, and thus serves as a check on the growth of government. Without the ability to inflate the currency, governments find themselves constrained in their actions, unable to carry on wars of aggression or to appease their overtaxed citizens with bread and circuses.

Consequently, the first step in his bill is to eliminate the legal tender laws that mandate the price-fixing concerning what citizens may use for money. Paul explained:

An emperor, a king, or a dictator might mint coins with half an ounce of gold and force merchants, under pain of death, to accept them as though they contained one ounce of gold. Each ounce of the king's gold could now be minted into two coins instead of one, so the king now had twice as much "money" to spend on building castles and raising armies. As these legally overvalued coins circulated, the coins containing the full ounce of gold would be pulled out of circulation and hoarded. We saw this same phenomenon happen in the mid-1960s when the US government began to mint subsidiary coinage out of copper and nickel rather than silver. The copper and nickel coins were legally overvalued, the silver coins undervalued in relation, and silver coins vanished from circulation…In the absence of legal tender laws, Gresham’s Law no longer holds. If people are free to reject debased currency, and instead demand sound money, sound money will gradually return to use in society. Merchants would be free to reject the king’s coin and accept only coins containing full metal weight.

Rejecting the king’s coin, his paper money, his phony Federal Reserve notes, would certainly mark the beginning of the bright day of freedom. Until then, Bass and others will no doubt continue to take advantage of Gresham’s Law until nickels and pennies disappear altogether.

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

Pentagon and JD may be a reflection of Bush 43 for decades to come because they politicized the hiring process. Monica Goodling resigned but that's no indication she was the only Bush official politicizing the career employee process.