Dispensaries in Canada

[mr noodles]

thats was predictable.....when a person dont hide at all with is intention of making cash and pretend he is the only one who can produce decent med in canada...

also , its illegal as fuck because no one got the right to sell cannabis , even compassion club dont sell more than 7 grams at the time and they where closed by the police in my province ...



a photocopy of my hc card with all my personal info , in the hands of who ? anyone remember the rule # 1 aka dont tell , dont show ?

how can you verify if my photocopy of my cards is not a photoshoped one ? you cant because these information fall under secrecy and hc will not reveal you the id of anyone ....so how can you verify ?

i call bs and from the beginning i am accusing you of having an hidden agenda . i was right .

but the best this guy is breaking the ic mag tos since a whole year , just surprise he didnt get n
banned before....ive seen people get banned because they offered free seeds via pm same for clones....now dealing oz of weed in the open forum is just retarded ...


and this guy bragging he is a chosen one by the conservatives ...he is already breaking the law...is chance of getting busted are like 10000 x so any one want is personal info in these guy hands ...

he is exactly what hell canada is denouncing , people with insane prescription that use it as a cover for a commercial enterprise . its exactly what will bring to gov to remove our right to grow, thank you fucking idiot and go pretend you care about the community , you do more damage than any good .


i had to put that out of my chest , sorry

 

[bigbag]

funny when dmt mentioned riverview, as i've always thought he'd fit right in there...

 

[BCMaster]

I wonder where he will pop up next lol

 

[Green Supreme]

"he is exactly what hell canada is denouncing , people with insane prescription that use it as a cover for a commercial enterprise . its exactly what will bring to gov to remove our right to grow, thank you fucking idiot and go pretend you care about the community , you do more damage than any good ."

Have kinda been thinking the same thing from the comments both dmt and vag puncher post. We reap what we sew. Peace GS

 

[slowride]

dmt is fucked

lol what a goof, go bull shit someone else with your collective garbage

good riddance!

 

[Pangea]

this is your option for med pot in canada.

everyone else minus 1% exception - dg grown, pam sprayed machine trimmed, chemical grown and sprayed, unflushed, black burn, phosphorus loaded bud for 8-12 a gram

our kind - organic hydro,with the most canna specific home made hand made nutes, from home made hand made hybrids, hand trimmed, 30 day cure, proprietary kind, bred and grown by people with real licenses (not dg). plus we document all our grows. photos, logs etc.

if people dont want the kindest meds, and support us to make more kinds of the highest quality. go spend 250-350 for burning lung bud. produced by the corporate minded masses.

and please stop using the word non-profit to benefit yourself. pretty petty in the bigger scheme of things. non-profit means all the money we generate goes back into our society to make it better/expand and refine it.

ps, the clone used to breed the conkushion has been getting 250-300 an o on the streets for the last 8 years, so 200 is a steal, especially in the niche market of hydroponically grown kind, d

First, I do not and have not used the word "non-profit" in any other way than what basically what you have described. This does not change the fact that any respectable NPO will operate with as much transparency as possible, including directors salaries.

Second, indoor "organic-hydro w/ cannabis specific nutes" is pure marketing bull shit. You will never receive organic certification with any respectable organization with your current methods, nor with vagpuncher using meltatox. Do you test your finished meds for morpholine??

Third, your buds may be potent and burn well, but so do many, many growers. Your attitude of we are the best is not uncommon nor even insulting, its just lame as its clearly marketing bullshit or a deluded and inflated sense of superiority.

Fortunately there will soon be medical organizations who will produce high grade cannabis for licensed patients at an affordable price.

It will be priced according to flowering time. Initially it will be 25¢ per week of flower, so the common 8 weeker will be $2/gram and a 12 week sativa will be $3/gram. With the prices falling with time as costs go down.

I guess your strategy is to maximize profits aka salaries in the short term, so that you can afford to compete when the competition shows you how to efficiently grow a plant.

Good luck!

 

[Guest 243982]

I'm definitely interested in hearing more about the politics and commercial aspects of growing. It seems a lot of people feel like they are being ripped off.

 

[SirTOKESalot]

First, I do not and have not used the word "non-profit" in any other way than what basically what you have described. This does not change the fact that any respectable NPO will operate with as much transparency as possible, including directors salaries.

Second, indoor "organic-hydro w/ cannabis specific nutes" is pure marketing bull shit. You will never receive organic certification with any respectable organization with your current methods, nor with vagpuncher using meltatox. Do you test your finished meds for morpholine??

Third, your buds may be potent and burn well, but so do many, many growers. Your attitude of we are the best is not uncommon nor even insulting, its just lame as its clearly marketing bullshit or a deluded and inflated sense of superiority.

Fortunately there will soon be medical organizations who will produce high grade cannabis for licensed patients at an affordable price.

It will be priced according to flowering time. Initially it will be 25¢ per week of flower, so the common 8 weeker will be $2/gram and a 12 week sativa will be $3/gram. With the prices falling with time as costs go down.

I guess your strategy is to maximize profits aka salaries in the short term, so that you can afford to compete when the competition shows you how to efficiently grow a plant.

Good luck!

Calling your self "organic-hydro" is the silliest shit ever, and getting Organic certification in the future will most decently not happen.
Inless you have a massive aquaponics op going, or your feeding algea to your plants.

People are becoming more and more aware in our communities, and practices are getting changed, even in the fruit and veggie production.

Pangea you sound like a very intelligent man.

Anyway, Selling Pot In an open thread?!?! wow.... The internet privacy laws are changing, and if the pot laws don't change with it, there is potentially a huge problem for us members.... Lets play safe here, shiit.

 

[Pangea]

The thread is about dispensing medical cannabis in canada, which according to the law that has been judged legal in previous cases, despite what the government and various arms of it may say. So I dont personally find what DMT said to be wrong, but obviously icmag and co have different laws than Canada.

I do think many Canadians are curious and have qualms as to why the cost of legal cannabis is the same as illegal cannabis. Specifically, PPS and Hellth Canada's absurd monopoly and pricing scheme, http://www.thestar.com/article/203337

PPS sells an ounce of their "medicine" for $9.3 per ounce to HC, who flip it to licensed patients for $150 / 30grams. Ouch.

mmar.ca offers $30/ounce to licensees.

Any efficient "commercial med production" could produce clean, flushed and fully expressed cannabis for a fraction of black market prices of $150 - $300 per oz, I reckon it will start at around $60 -$100 per oz and quickly fall to no more than $1 per gram.

In a legal environment it is not even that expensive to do this, and that's a large part of my disdain for KCC is they flaunt their inefficiency publicly as some kind marketing or boasting, and tell us how compassionate they are because they have good quality herbs for black market prices. How inefficient can their organization be if not corrupt if they are burning megawatts and have to sell their herbs for such prices.

I'd say at best they are taking advantage of their patients in order to maximize non profits to build their infrastructure as fast as possible, unfortunately for them and their patients their business model and infrastructure are built for and in a black/grey market, and will only survive by adapting to more efficient methods that most others will be utilizing.

 

[Pangea]

If Hellth Canada is serious in their mandated pursuit to open and ease access to their estimated number of at least five hundred thousand medical cannabis users and if they are to have that large of market limited to commercial producers that they license, than I would Imagine there will be more than a few licenses available.

What is the average number of grams that a would be c.producer have to have available per patient, per day? Could be anywhere from two to ten.

With five hundred thousand patients at 5 grams averaged per day is 2.5 million grams that would need to be available each day, at least. That is 2.645 million ounces per month, at $200 per ounce is $529,109,400 each month, or 6.4 billion per year.

If a c.producer had 1% of the est. patients they would need to provide for at least 5,000 patients. Using the 5 gram per day average again, that one would need to produce per day per patient, a producer would need to average roughly 750 Kilos or 1654Lbs per month.

With 5 harvest per year that would be 1800Kilo's(4000lbs) per harvest, with 3 harvest per year that would be 3000kilo's. In a warehouse with, 5 harvest per year, each pulling 5000lbs, would need 2500 - 3400, 1000watt lights for flowering, costing $3600 per day in electricity @ 10cents/KwH, a monthly bill of just around $110,000 for flowering lights, one could say it could end up close to double that with other lighting and HVAC being the primary other large draw's.

So $200,000 per month in electricity for a 5000 patient commercial med production warehouse facility that produces 750 Kilograms per month.

750K(26455.47oz) @ $200/Ounce = $5,291,094 Grossed per month.

750K @ $1/gram = $750,000 Grossed per month.

I would guess there would need to be 200 - 500 commercial producers to maintain quality and feasibility with the expected amount of patients.

Warehosers will be the worst off

 

[D-Note]

I sent them a copy of my license only to have them start ignoring me soon after a few months ago. Chumps

 

[mr noodles]

i am a licensed user and a dg myself. i grow the medicine for free for my friends . i dont charge him a fucking dollars and i dont sell at all.

its free and my pay is to see is happiness and well being .

we dont have insane license and it dont cost very much but electricity and a very small cost on ferts .

i must be very stupid to the eyes of some greedy people but for me i can watch myself in a mirror and think im not an asshole .

 

[Pangea]

Not everyone has friends like you.

How many people can you fully provide for, for free? There are over 500,000 of us...

 

[mr noodles]

Not everyone has friends like you.

How many people can you fully provide for, for free? There are over 500,000 of us...

everybody got is limit .

i wish you get some good friend who will appreciate the fact they can have a fully legal garden because of you , the least would be to provide for free . what is the cost of having the freedom of growing 10 different genetic in order to find the best for our health problem ?

what is the price of freedom again ?

certainly more than it cost to me to give my friend is needed medicine . fact is what is 30 $ f electricity per months and around 10 $ of nutes .

for less than 50 $ per month i got mine and provide medicine for another person .

i wish you can find somebody who not see a ill person as a source of revenue .

 

[Green Supreme]

HC license will make you legal. Can it stop thieves that rob your garden? Just because it is legal doesn't mean it is stress free. Good luck. Peace GS

 

[Pangea]

HC license will make you legal. Can it stop thieves that rob your garden? Just because it is legal doesn't mean it is stress free. Good luck. Peace GS

Completely agree'd. Legality does add the ability to utilize law enforcement and private security measures.

I imagine separation from major urban centers would cut down on the stress factors. Canada is quite the large place with a pop. density as low as one could find.

A big question in my mind, without cannabis having a drug identification number will it be taxed?

 

[Pangea]

Looked over my post and fixed a calculation error with the cost of electricity.

Forgot to move a decimal place.

The cost for a month of flowering 3000Kw @ 10/c kwh is $3,600 per day, or $108,000/month.

Keeping in mind that was a general estimation. Different places have different costs for electricity.

Where I am it would cost me $45,000 per month @ 1,080,000KwH or 3000Kw flowering at 12/12 per month.

Which would make flowering electricity 1% of the operating cost @ $200/oz!!!

 

[bigbag]

how fast do u think cops will respond 2 a call of a home invasion at a med grow ?

 

[Pangea]

protip: if being home invaded with a med grow, do not disclose to the cops such information until after they arrive.

 

[bigbag]

911 is a joke