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FrankenPot-Marijuana Gone GMO
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BongRipkenJR.
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Sounds like they found out about seed catalogs. I remember a high times article back in 04 or so and it showed Columbian green houses rocking dozens of different strains from different breeders. The weed looked pretty good if my memory serves me correctly. That article was retarded.
WavvesWavves
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No.
Definetly NOT a gmo. Gmo are patented and very very controled.
There is probably already GM Cannabis existing in labs but definetly not on the market; and not accessible to the random growers. Only big pharma would be authorized to grow it most likely.
booblehead saying that Gmo is harmless to consume seem very presumptuous. The world of Gmo's is pretty much the same as big pharma, which means an alternative study Not from or controlled the manufacturer is pretty impossible to do. You can still find few evidence that shows that Gmo had an impact on health but it has to be quantified in better ways. But since it is almost impossible to pull out an independant study on GM at the moment, good luck with that...
Problem with Gmos is that, exactly like the nuclear industry; there is a strong potential of messing up with nature and human being if not done carefully. And right now it is out of control, Monsanto is pretty much ruling his world, using even the US government to try to push the introduction of GM crops in Europe, for exemple. Or use NGOs like USAID, in Nepal, to train farmers to the use of GM, chemical nutrients and pests, and then bring their product on the market. Well we've seen the results in India. Crop problem, no more money, fields is lost in loans, just left with pesticides to drink and end your life. And they tell you, trust us it is not harmful... Nobody has control over these companies; not even the scientific community.. Trust'em, they are here to help the world....
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There is probably already GM Cannabis existing in labs but definetly not on the market; and not accessible to the random growers. Only big pharma would be authorized to grow it most likely.
booblehead saying that Gmo is harmless to consume seem very presumptuous. The world of Gmo's is pretty much the same as big pharma, which means an alternative study Not from or controlled the manufacturer is pretty impossible to do. You can still find few evidence that shows that Gmo had an impact on health but it has to be quantified in better ways. But since it is almost impossible to pull out an independant study on GM at the moment, good luck with that...
Problem with Gmos is that, exactly like the nuclear industry; there is a strong potential of messing up with nature and human being if not done carefully. And right now it is out of control, Monsanto is pretty much ruling his world, using even the US government to try to push the introduction of GM crops in Europe, for exemple. Or use NGOs like USAID, in Nepal, to train farmers to the use of GM, chemical nutrients and pests, and then bring their product on the market. Well we've seen the results in India. Crop problem, no more money, fields is lost in loans, just left with pesticides to drink and end your life. And they tell you, trust us it is not harmful... Nobody has control over these companies; not even the scientific community.. Trust'em, they are here to help the world....
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i would be willing to pay 100$ a kilo no problem
Have you seen the Belgian Blues? What can be bad about a cow that produces 3x the meat and leaner... yumm...
GMO's and chemical fert/pesticide applications should be kept separate from each other. The point of a GMO is generally to eliminate the need for use of harmful chemicals. Disease and pest resistant crops don't need to be sprayed.
Scientists have engineered a rice that can withstand floods.. but the famers wouldn't grow it b/c it was a GMO... So taking what they learned, the scientist did traditional breeding and yielded the same results.
IMO... when it comes to GMO's... if it's not meant to be, it won't happen... There's a lot of research that goes into finding compatible genes for use in genetic modification.
Personally, I choose GMO's over steroid induced growth that is currently prevalent...
sorry to disagree, but companies here in uk are now experimenting with meds made from raw cannabis, so it would seem very plausible that they will genetcally mark 'their' strains so they cannot be copied.it is already done with some cereal crops, and meds are big £
I would rather personally not have to eat GMO nor steroid induced growth Food.
That is where our opinion differ I think bubblehead. I think that we can already sustain ourselves enough not to have to genetically induce modification, that could be very very dangerous to the preservation of heirloom genetics, that could be potentially unsafe for your health.
They want you to believe that GMO will save the world, but talking about food there are many other proved ways to reach sustainability with a lot less impacts on the planet and the species. But it does not involve royalties on seeds every year. Permaculture for example.
May I remind you that monsanto is most know for RoundUp Ready technology, that goes along with the selling tremendous amount of the Round Up, their chemical.
We cannot separate GMo and Chemicals because the same companies produce them, unfortunatly.
On the other hands if this technology can safely provide us an alternative, indeed I am not against research and why not application. But spreading around a not fully understood technology, by some companies that do carry mostly about their benefits and investors, that I cannot bear. Especially when many scientists around are rising about some troubling facts.
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That is where our opinion differ I think bubblehead. I think that we can already sustain ourselves enough not to have to genetically induce modification, that could be very very dangerous to the preservation of heirloom genetics, that could be potentially unsafe for your health.
They want you to believe that GMO will save the world, but talking about food there are many other proved ways to reach sustainability with a lot less impacts on the planet and the species. But it does not involve royalties on seeds every year. Permaculture for example.
May I remind you that monsanto is most know for RoundUp Ready technology, that goes along with the selling tremendous amount of the Round Up, their chemical.
We cannot separate GMo and Chemicals because the same companies produce them, unfortunatly.
you put, my friend, a lot of trust in the people behind the GM industry. I have been taught not to trust people that want me you to believe something would bring me a better life. you should.
On the other hands if this technology can safely provide us an alternative, indeed I am not against research and why not application. But spreading around a not fully understood technology, by some companies that do carry mostly about their benefits and investors, that I cannot bear. Especially when many scientists around are rising about some troubling facts.
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many scientists are unable to admit that they are authoritarians. after all, anyone without a clear idea of "right" and "wrong" isn't motivated to further those things they believe are "right".
gene selection is like selection of anything else - if you have two school children, are you empowered to say "this one is shit and will never amount to anything" and exterminate them?
recessive genes are often "desirable traits". today. in this era. god knows about other circumstances.
like i say, there is only one valid application of science, and that is art.
if you are smoking weed and don't have spiritual experiences, i can't say anything that's going to mean anything to you, i'm sorry. play with your toys, but leave my fucking world alone, which means no proliferation of gmo outside of your little witless sandpit please.
gene selection is like selection of anything else - if you have two school children, are you empowered to say "this one is shit and will never amount to anything" and exterminate them?
recessive genes are often "desirable traits". today. in this era. god knows about other circumstances.
like i say, there is only one valid application of science, and that is art.
if you are smoking weed and don't have spiritual experiences, i can't say anything that's going to mean anything to you, i'm sorry. play with your toys, but leave my fucking world alone, which means no proliferation of gmo outside of your little witless sandpit please.
many people who call themselves "scientists" have actually bought into a cult or a religion even, a very clever one,,, with untestable rules starting to appear that demand faith and devotion,, they simply do not question what they are tought and that is the point of being a scientist so its scewed away from its original use and purpose and is now being used as an excuse to carry out allsorts of facist, authoritarian ends,,
science is all left brained thought, its all logic and cold and trapped looking at things from the smallest level up with no hope of seeing the bigger picture,,
it didnt start out that way many millenia ago and was fine in the 1800's still, thriving even, but since the world wars it in general has gone very insidious..
the problem with buying into a great big lie with out even looking at it, like "scientists" do, is that you lose empathy for those that dont buy that big lie,, calling people stupid and crazy because they dont follow the homogenised average and dont simply swallow what some sleezy magicians conjure into existence at the top,, part of what i mean about a great lie is the "principle of uniformity",,
they need to de-focalise and stop preaching,,
and we need rid of agripharma corporations and their gmos all together, no compramise, off the face of the earth..
science is all left brained thought, its all logic and cold and trapped looking at things from the smallest level up with no hope of seeing the bigger picture,,
it didnt start out that way many millenia ago and was fine in the 1800's still, thriving even, but since the world wars it in general has gone very insidious..
the problem with buying into a great big lie with out even looking at it, like "scientists" do, is that you lose empathy for those that dont buy that big lie,, calling people stupid and crazy because they dont follow the homogenised average and dont simply swallow what some sleezy magicians conjure into existence at the top,, part of what i mean about a great lie is the "principle of uniformity",,
they need to de-focalise and stop preaching,,
and we need rid of agripharma corporations and their gmos all together, no compramise, off the face of the earth..
..another thought for those who have bought into authoritarian "science".. if truth requires peer review and reproducible criteria, this completely discretises that any singularity or nonreproducible event cannot be true. "it can't be true unless it can happen twice". wow, what a stipulation to place on what we are prepared to observe and accredit.
drum_halfzware
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Humans have been genetically modifying organisms since we began selecting seeds to plant in order to produce new generations. Modern science has just given insight into how to accomplish specific aims much more quickly. Any one else ever thought of viral mediated gene transfer of various morphine/codeine synthetic genes into germ-line tissue of Cannabis in order to produce a plant that makes both cannabinoids and opioids and will pass these traits to subsequent generations? Massive therapeutic potential for analgesia induction. . . .
