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bear security
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24-7 presence and a .45-70. Other than that not really much you can do if they really want it..
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Hey, are we talking about cops, or bears?
Hey, are we talking about cops, or bears?
schwilly
Member
blood and bone meal will attract every scavenger out there to dig up your plants.
get chicken wire, lay it flat over your hole once it's filled, stake it down, well, cut a cross in the middle of the chicken wire, pull it up the edges of this cross so you can get the plant in there, once it's in, fold the chicken wire flat again, use loose wire to wire this cross shut around the stem.
this will keep out raccoons and other smaller animals. a bear would probably just pull it right up.
good luck
get chicken wire, lay it flat over your hole once it's filled, stake it down, well, cut a cross in the middle of the chicken wire, pull it up the edges of this cross so you can get the plant in there, once it's in, fold the chicken wire flat again, use loose wire to wire this cross shut around the stem.
this will keep out raccoons and other smaller animals. a bear would probably just pull it right up.
good luck
Nor'Easter
Member
yeah not an outdoor expert but I would say also to avoid bone or blood meal, fish emulsion or anything a bear might want to eat! We finally had a bear here in our backyard eating our seeds and kind of liked it except he destroyed one of our feeders. My bro charged out to grab a feeder against my advice and was lucky the bear wanted to get away instead of confront him, and it got tangled in a thorn thicket on the bank before taking off. He has never been back since but I still advise respecting and avoiding confrontation with bears. I love all (almost all) wildlife and that includes bears. They will usually back off or go away before you even see them, but do exercise caution and respect their rights to defend their territory and you should be fine. Good luck!
niceeven
Member
Bears are omnivorous meaning they will eat anything that's edible. More, they will get at anything that smells like anything like food, just in case. Feeding them is actually possible, some people did before but I would not do it myself. As mentioned earlier bears will rip anything in the way to get at anything promising. One thing to know about bears is that they tend to have a fair size territory and more often than not they are on the move a lot.
What that means is if they find something interesting somewhere you can be guaranteed they will be back. That can be a problem. I grow in the bush and the solution I have adopted is to make what has been called by others "designer composts" there are several ways to make them. I experimented with them for a couple of years prior stumbling onto this : https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=36542&highlight=sweet+105 that thread is a very, very good source of info. (Thanks to whoever who posted that stuff, respect guys)
The idea is that composted materials are then fully available and in the mean time you add tons of micro organisms to your soil, as a side benefit for you (and I) whatever you used has become unattractive to animals. That way, I can still use alfalfa, bone meals or fish bone meals. I have done that for a while now and never had problems with bears. This year I am moving to Bokashi composts as outlined in the thread, by the look of it they are even better than what I have been using. What we need to know is that when making composts there are a few things to respect in terms of balance in ingredients used. Anyhow, it's all in that thread.
hope this helps....somewhat.
What that means is if they find something interesting somewhere you can be guaranteed they will be back. That can be a problem. I grow in the bush and the solution I have adopted is to make what has been called by others "designer composts" there are several ways to make them. I experimented with them for a couple of years prior stumbling onto this : https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=36542&highlight=sweet+105 that thread is a very, very good source of info. (Thanks to whoever who posted that stuff, respect guys)
The idea is that composted materials are then fully available and in the mean time you add tons of micro organisms to your soil, as a side benefit for you (and I) whatever you used has become unattractive to animals. That way, I can still use alfalfa, bone meals or fish bone meals. I have done that for a while now and never had problems with bears. This year I am moving to Bokashi composts as outlined in the thread, by the look of it they are even better than what I have been using. What we need to know is that when making composts there are a few things to respect in terms of balance in ingredients used. Anyhow, it's all in that thread.
hope this helps....somewhat.
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buddymate
I thought I had it bad with a rabbit problem!!BEARS???
Pepper spray is good for bear protection.
Make sure you read the instructions when you first get it. Don't wait until you need it..
If you see a bear approach, spray your grow buddy and get the hell outta there.
Just don't use anything from an animal source. Nothing with a strong odor. Odors can transfer from your hands. Anything you touch could be a target for vandalism.
Plenty of compost in the woods. The soil may be good already. Maybe round up some scat for a top dress.
Make sure you read the instructions when you first get it. Don't wait until you need it..
If you see a bear approach, spray your grow buddy and get the hell outta there.
Just don't use anything from an animal source. Nothing with a strong odor. Odors can transfer from your hands. Anything you touch could be a target for vandalism.
Plenty of compost in the woods. The soil may be good already. Maybe round up some scat for a top dress.
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el dub
I know folks in Wisconsin who use electric fence to keep bear from their garden. They started off with peanut butter slathered on the hot wire and never had problems after that, as far as I know.
They do make solar fencing units that can take care of a patch easily and pretty cheaply.
Good luck.
lw
They do make solar fencing units that can take care of a patch easily and pretty cheaply.
Good luck.
lw
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Nondual
A few years back a buddy down the street had a bear come through his garden and tore a bunch of pots up. I heard rustling in the garbage cans one night and thought it was a dog, grabbed my flashlight but it was late and tired so figured I'd just clean the mess up in the morning...well I would have walked around the corner and met up with a big brown bear. It went down the road and ran up a tree when the sheriffs came after it got into someone elses garbage.
Even though they're around here pretty rare they trash someones garden. I used a bunch of bone meal and fish ferts in my veggie garden last year and no problems even though a bear regularly travels through the area on it's way to rustle through the neighbors garbage.
Next to every plant put a picnic basket. If this bear is smarter than the average bear he will leave your plants alone, lol.
Please don't harm the bears 
That stuff is fine to use, but takes planning. It needs to be broken down a few weeks before you put it in the ground. Then it needs to be in the ground for another few weeks for the local wild life to investigate and see there is nothing there. Then add your plants and this too
And cover with BIG rocks, they work great with your mulch you should be using too
That stuff is fine to use, but takes planning. It needs to be broken down a few weeks before you put it in the ground. Then it needs to be in the ground for another few weeks for the local wild life to investigate and see there is nothing there. Then add your plants and this too
And cover with BIG rocks, they work great with your mulch you should be using too
I watched a bear through binocs rip the shit out of an electric New Zealand fence to get to the blackberry patch by the creek.
Bear don't give a shit. Bear wants berries.
Use claymores.
Bear don't give a shit. Bear wants berries.
Use claymores.
THIS^^^^^^...............here's the actual *reality* , if the Bear decides that he wants you patch then nothing that you can do short of setting on it 24/7 *armed* is going to do a lick of good.
I've spent a great deal of time in Bear country , and not pissant lower 48 200lb Black Bears either.
And for those of you who *actually* think that an electric fence or pepper spray is always going to work on a Bear there's a plethora of videos available showing what a drastic error that can be.
If a bear coms through your camp etc and just ambles on through it's because he *wanted to* , not because you yelled and waved your arms , shokced him a bit or anything else.
A word in the " bear sprays" , y'all attempt to argue if you wish but keep in mind that I've *lived* in the Bush in areas where there are a lot of them and you had to deal with 'em all the time.
***Pepper Spray is bullshit attempted suicide by bear**** any bear thats aggressive enough to warrant it's use and close enough to be hit by pepper spray.................that freaking bear should have been DEAD 25 feet ago.
And I'm not argueing this or getting in a flamewar about it with the PETA whack types , if your entire experience with bears is nature specials and PETA literature then shut the f*** up because my expereince *isn't* from television.
The deterents suggested here are ok , except for pepper spray which is freaking *useless* , but that's ALL they are ,deterrents..........if the bear decides he want your bud you aren't stopping him.................nor for that matter will you stop a moose who actually *wants* your plants , not short of making a pile of meat......
IDK how big of out door your planning, but I will say this about my experience w/wild bear. If it's not bein fed by other humans, a wild bear will go out of its way to avoid man. If you're grow is small/close enough, take you & the dog out to make "the rounds" several times a week and pee all around (NOT ON) your plants. While my neighbors are having trouble w/skunk, deer, ground hogs...I keep a lot of wild life off my land in this manor. It may sound gross, but when these crop killers are most active, I save my pee (urinate in a garden watering jug) & walk my property line daily if nessesary. I think deer are pretty, & they sure do taste good, but I sure don't want the buggers in my garden!
Of course, this is just my 0.02
Of course, this is just my 0.02
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