World News, possible History in the making. this is almost an actual battle.

[MadBuddhaAbuser]

And I would like to see people from investment firms and large banks be prevented from running for office, and then using their position to rewrite more favorable laws for their old buddies.(romney, corzine, all the morgan stanley, fannie/freddie, JP Morgan, etc douches who have been running our country into the ground for decades.)

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

one of the biggest reasons the people are so pissed an in the streets is because all of the major candidates are corporatist puppets.

what Romney does only works because the people that hire him are suckers. If people were smart and did not sell their companies off to the venture capitalist like Romney then that type of behavior would not happen.

Romney is perfect for the current government. His job is already to feed off the fear of companies. He makes them feel helpless like they need him, and then charges billions for his worthless services. If we would just stop buying into the shit then it would go away. That goes for bad business and bad government.

 

[Bullfrog44]

this comment is very ignorant and you do not understand the problem. Nobody is rooting for communism. They are there to combat the global corporatism that has stolen our democracy and destroyed our capitalist economy.

Corporatism is just a form of Fascism.

"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini

Then why are they burning American flags? Why are they saying Revolution not Restore? You are sorely mistaken my friend. Learn more about the movement before you challenge my knowledge on the subject.

Just look where this movement started.......in the middle east. What big corporations are they fighting? The message is the same across the middle east, Europe and the OWS in America, REVOLUTION.

I just ask this one question.....Revolution to what? Who is going to "dictate" who takes power of this "revolution". We know the answer on who took power in Egypt after their "revolution". That would me the Muslim Brotherhood who just won 67% of the elections in Egypt. That isn't including the groups worse than Muslim Brotherhood.

Now we take this to the USA. The DOJ just came out and said Muslim extremest influences are in every level of our military.......EVERY LEVEL. The Muslim Brotherhood being the main influence. Who is ready for a Caliphate?

Keep telling yourself that these OWS are just some hippy, peace loving people. Don't even get me into how OWS is funded by George Soross and company....Wonder what he wants....maybe a "Open Society."

O yea, real classy move by OWS throwing condoms at Catholic school girls. Real stand up crowd.

 

[Bullfrog44]

Occupy Providence? That is what OWS was saying during a pro-life rally today. I thought they only cared about big company's. Hummmmm..................

Plain and simple. judeo christian values are under attack.

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

I never got the impression that Egyptian protests were similar to OWS, other than economic.

 

[stickey fingers]

i may be the only one, but if you only knew how i felt !

i may be the only one, but if you only knew how i felt !

CENSORED..........

 

[Bullfrog44]

I never got the impression that Egyptian protests were similar to OWS, other than economic.

Well, it is. Both praise revolution. Both are fed up with high unemployment. Both want and end to their current governments. Both "protest" with violence. What started these movements across the globe was actually in Tunisia first. Obama cheered on the Egyptian protests, just like OWS.

DiscoBiscuit - did you know who took power in Egypt? Or did the media forget about all that? They were so proud of the movement, but why not tell us what the movement accomplished? There is a reason why things like this are not reported. Main reason, the main stream media were wrong about the Egyptian movement, just like they are wrong about OWS being the answer for the left. The media will never admit they are wrong, but they will bury stories.

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

Well, it is. What started these movements across the globe was actually in Tunisia first. Obama cheered on the Egyptian protests, just like OWS.

IMO, he supported the protesters.

DiscoBiscuit - did you know who took power in Egypt?

military

There is a reason why things like this are not reported.

I've read at least one article about Egyptian dismay over the military saying they wouldn't take over (but they kinda did...)

That said, the Egyptian uprising didn't didn't come complete with an alternative working government. The hope is that once elections can be established the military will relinquish control back to civilian.

Main reason, the main stream media were wrong about the Egyptian movement, just like they are wrong about OWS being the answer for the left. The media will never admit they are wrong, but they will bury stories.

Never heard the media characterizing OWS as the answer for the left. I've heard FOX NEWS and other conservatives disagreeing with the whole thing and some (IMO) mischaracterizing why folks are protesting.

It's the whole political paradigm. This side wants to see rules and regulations applied evenly and the other side would like to see less regulations. If we crawl out on the limb much farther than that we get the fears of snuffing capitalism and all that baloney.

The truth is we're not as far apart as the folks who don't want reforms want us to think.

 

[Bullfrog44]

IMO, he supported the protesters.

lol, cheered or "supported". Whatever.

military

Umm no. Like I said, the Muslim Brotherhood just won 67% of the elections in Egypt. Check who is control. The military is also infiltrated by the Muslim Brotherhood, just like here in the USA. The DOJ just came out with a report of how far the Muslim Brotherhood has infultrated the world, and it goes in depth about Egypt.

If the military was in control, then why are the diplomats keeping US citizens in Egypt without letting them leave, including one of Obamas cabinet members kids?????????????????? Or are you ignoring these facts? Do you denie that the Muslim Brotherhood is at least in control of their government now?

That said, the Egyptian uprising didn't didn't come complete with an alternative working government. The hope is that once elections can be established the military will relinquish control back to civilian.

Hummm..... Just like OWS. The only thing is "Hope" that elections will re-establish a entire country is unacceptable. Do you go on vacation not knowing where your going? Then why over turn a country with no plan? Once again I will ask, who will "dictate" the new rules?

The truth is we're not as far apart as the folks who don't want reforms want us to think.

You know this sounds all peace and love. The reality is you are putting blind faith in a group of people that have done nothing but show disrespect for our country, period.

Throwing condoms a catholic school girls?

Shutting down the NYC subway? Who does that hurt? I can tell you rich people are not riding the subway, I think that is the 99% that rides the subways.

Shutting down the Oakland docs? Who does that hurt?

Ran sacking Oakland city hall and burning flags on the steps?

Murders at OWS sites.

Rapes.

Come on man, OWS is all bad news. Maybe the truth is you are "not as far apart" as these murderers, rapists, communist and anarchist, but I know I am.

 

[longearedfriend]

possible history in the making ?

history is in the making right at this present moment

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

Then why are they burning American flags? Why are they saying Revolution not Restore? You are sorely mistaken my friend. Learn more about the movement before you challenge my knowledge on the subject.

Just look where this movement started.......in the middle east. What big corporations are they fighting? The message is the same across the middle east, Europe and the OWS in America, REVOLUTION.

I just ask this one question.....Revolution to what? Who is going to "dictate" who takes power of this "revolution". We know the answer on who took power in Egypt after their "revolution". That would me the Muslim Brotherhood who just won 67% of the elections in Egypt. That isn't including the groups worse than Muslim Brotherhood.

Now we take this to the USA. The DOJ just came out and said Muslim extremest influences are in every level of our military.......EVERY LEVEL. The Muslim Brotherhood being the main influence. Who is ready for a Caliphate?

Keep telling yourself that these OWS are just some hippy, peace loving people. Don't even get me into how OWS is funded by George Soross and company....Wonder what he wants....maybe a "Open Society."

O yea, real classy move by OWS throwing condoms at Catholic school girls. Real stand up crowd.

that's the thing dude. they are like the tea party. they are pissed off and dont understand what they are actually in protest of. However there are many educated people in this country to steer them in the right direction. Instead of bashing the people that are out and doing something go educate them. They have no centralized leader guiding them to stay peaceful and reminding them what democracy is. The civil rights movement had them and that is why it got some where.

 

[Bullfrog44]

that's the thing dude. they are like the tea party.

Biggest difference is OWS = Revolution

Tea Party = Restore the constitution.

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

There's nothing revolutionary about restoring fairness by reforming supply side economics.

Supply side was supposed to trickle down and it did the reverse. Folks are just tired of the big lie, that's all.

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

Except half the tea party does not understand the constitution because they think they should Christianize the government and make the drug war even more harsh.

Basically both of them are full of angry stupid people that are clouding the big picture. Our Democracy is broken. we need a constitutional convention, but that in it's self may trigger a civil war.

 

[Bullfrog44]

I am loving your points, good back and forth Zep, DB, and everybody else. Hope nobody was offended during this conversation, and hope everybody has a good night.

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

No offense taken, Bullfrog44. Thanks for sharing.

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

I guess it's different when it's happening in your back yard. I'm only 3k miles away.

 

[Warped1]

in my very honest opinion, i support the violence, fuck the cops, if you can dish it out you damn well better be able to take it

look at the other countries where the protesting didnt go nowhere, they had to use violence, then eventualy had to go to war to get what they want....

i admire these ppl for standing up and fighting for whats worth it in their eyes...they may not get what they want but it will make a loud echo that will resonate for a long time....


im not saying to go out and start violent shit, but if the police start, i say the ppl shout finish it, fight fire with fire....

what the ppl should do is form their own neighborhood police squad, kinda like the fire houses in the move "gangs of new york"...this way you have a police that actually protects the ppl because they work for the ppl and not the gov't...

even the crips, they were first originally started as a neighborhood watch to help protect and police the comunity, but when the power and money got to their heads they changed...


what we need is police that protect us and help us, not box us in to the way the gov't wants

We need a government of the people, for the people and by the people. We have laws being made willy-nilly to disrupt everyday life for fuck's sake. Laws get made without a fucking vote by the people..laws that affect every one of us. I don't see any militia amounting to much these days

 

[trichrider]

step away from the mainsteam media.

...and don't eat the brown acid.

 

[Hydro-Soil]

Biggest difference is OWS = Revolution

Tea Party = Restore the constitution.

The OWS protesters don't understand the constitution and the Tea Party doesn't get how corrupted everything really is.


It's really sad when a govt gets so far off it's designed track that it will take a 'revolution' to get back to it's original 'constitution'.

Buy your ammo in small lots with cash.

Stay Safe!