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Bobby Stainless

"Ill let you try my Wu-Tang style"
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I know one botanist, that has never used Bloombastic^


The op asked for opinions on Bloombastic, not for you to tell him every nutrient to use. It may be hard for you to grasp, but no one cares what you think on this subject, as you do not have any experience.... Maybe another comparison thread on RIU will help the ol internet ego?

Poor guy. We are all just too stupid to understand.....
 

Herborizer

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All these glossy-labeled products with high price tags are just bottled mineral salts whose mineral composition only slightly varies from the bloom booster sitting next to them on the shelf. That is the point. If the OP really wanted some good advice from educated growers, he'd give us info on the base nutes he's currently using, how he's using them, and his reason for wanting a 'booster' to begin with.

At the end of the day, it's not my money so I'm not going to lose any sleep if the OP or others buy a product that costs $130/quart. But it should anger you as a personal grower, as a caregiver, or as a cash-cropper that these companies are taking advantage of our community's general lack-of-knowledge by charging outrageous sums for minerals salts just because we're the only ones that can afford it. I asked this question earlier; how many botanists are using Boombasic? That should tell you a lot about the worth of these products.

Ok, now I'm done. The 'seeing what they want to see' crowd can take over ;). Unsubbed.

This is like saying all buds are the same components, which is true. Though, I will take the stinky, dank, dense, mega trichomed weed over the airy ditch weed. Yeah, they are the same base components, but one is much better than the other.
 

krunchbubble

Dear Haters, I Have So Much More For You To Be Mad
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All these glossy-labeled products with high price tags are just bottled mineral salts whose mineral composition only slightly varies from the bloom booster sitting next to them on the shelf. That is the point. If the OP really wanted some good advice from educated growers, he'd give us info on the base nutes he's currently using, how he's using them, and his reason for wanting a 'booster' to begin with.

At the end of the day, it's not my money so I'm not going to lose any sleep if the OP or others buy a product that costs $130/quart. But it should anger you as a personal grower, as a caregiver, or as a cash-cropper that these companies are taking advantage of our community's general lack-of-knowledge by charging outrageous sums for minerals salts just because we're the only ones that can afford it. I asked this question earlier; how many botanists are using Boombasic? That should tell you a lot about the worth of these products.

Ok, now I'm done. The 'seeing what they want to see' crowd can take over ;). Unsubbed.


its not JUST a booster.....

aminos' , vitamins, silica AND a PK booster.....

ITS 4 PRODUCTS IN ONE BOTTLE!!!!!!

how can ANYONE bitch about bloombastic is beyond comprehension...
 

krunchbubble

Dear Haters, I Have So Much More For You To Be Mad
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hey krunchbubble i really respect your opinions ,at what stage do you use bloombastic straight through bloom or only the final 2 weeks peace


appreciate it!

i follow to directions and lower my base nutrient 25% when i use it...
 

Bobby Stainless

"Ill let you try my Wu-Tang style"
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Found a GREAT pic Homebrewer. BTW, you feed your plants too much.

I LOVE HAIR IN MY WEED. You have some lucky patients bro. Much respect.

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without getting into the arguement i pretty much agree with this^^
i dont mean to offend but im not looking for the opinions of people just out to call it a "snake oil" when you have not used it

however if someone has used it and thinks it is "garbage or snake oil"
then thats fine to bring up
thanks
rj

Thank you! Another person gets it.

Don't really care what someone's inexperienced opinion is.

I have no doubt that Homebrewer has a better knowledge of plant food than I do (kind of a boring subject IMO), however that theoretical knowledge does not carry over to his plants, from what I have seen.
 
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hydr1

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I've used it and Think I get similar results using kool bloom powder.

But I've also grown a lot as a grower and I am going to buy a bottle again and run it side by side. Again. I'll be back to post results in a couple months.
Nice pics...the close ups anyways.
Take it easy and try to not feed the trolls.
 

hydr1

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Ak is one of those strains that a lot of donkeys grow and a lot of seed company's sell... But the good pheno makes a world of difference.

Homegrowers buds look like they were grown from seeds bought off the net.
Side by side challenge or comparison of with/without bloombastic with your same strain would be proof....but when you find something that works, proving shit to Internet dorks seems like a waste of time. I tell ya what...I have a table in week 6 right now and it's Og, I'm down to run the green goop in the table from 6 to 8 and we can compare to pics of the same strain run for three years using kool bloom powder as a finisher.
I have thousands of pics of the same looking end result using the kb.
So I can show results compared in a few weeks. I'll take pics of flowers before, after three days of use, during flush and after the dry and cure.

Sounds like a good challenge. Like I said, I've used it before indoors and out and I didn't notice much change, but that was when it first hit the market and I have stepped my game up a lot since then. We had free samples sent to every address we could. :)

See ya in a month with pics.
 

Bobby Stainless

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Nice work^ I have no problem with someone who has actually done some comparison work. I won't ever change my feeding schedule though. I have done organic, RDWC, Areoponic, Coco, etc. Never had the results that I get from Micro, Bloom, BB, and Calmag.

I have not run AK47 for awhile. It was not very memorable.

It just didn't seem fair to compare it with my Blue Sonja or Deep Congo.

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hydr1

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What system are you running the basic in and how do you use it.
I saw krunch runs 75% base and adds the bastic.

What week do you start it? I just ordered a 80ml to test in the 40 gallon res.
20 bucks to do this side by side ain't shit.

Wtf is Congo? Lol I'm not a strain chaser as I've been breeding my own stuff for a bit. Links ?
 

Rjstoner

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so far no one has said anything negative about it who has used it im probably think im gonna purchase enough to do a run, and test it myself. besides im a big beliver in snake oils


btw since i started using a full line i have grown better bigger stonier buds now some do great with lucas, rezipe, K.I.S.S, and ive tried them all i do better with the full line and so do my buddies

so here is another question

what all could bloombastic replace..
can it replace my protekt since it has silica?
or my liquid and dry kool bloom since it has pk boost?
or should i just add less of these + bloombastic??

oh and feel free to keep posting frosty nugs grown with the bloombastics!!

my snake oils
 

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Bobby Stainless

"Ill let you try my Wu-Tang style"
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What system are you running the basic in and how do you use it.
I saw krunch runs 75% base and adds the bastic.

I use the bagged botanicare Coco w/ perlite. A whole lot easier than busting up Coco bricks.

I use the H3ad formula with Jungle Juice nutes (cheaper than GH and the same thing). It's 6ml of Micro and 9ml of Bloom. I will add some Calmag 2-5ml per gal as needed, and then the 2ml per gal of Bloombastic.

I rarely check PH or PPMs anymore due to the stability of this nute profile. I don't think my PPMs ever go over 1000 though, and BB has some substance.

There are some things I change as I see necessary. For the first two weeks of flower, I will up the Bloom to 12ml, then towards the end of flower I will cut the micro completely.

I also use some 400w CMH bulbs mixed in with my 1ks.

What week do you start it? I just ordered a 80ml to test in the 40 gallon res.
20 bucks to do this side by side ain't shit.

I use Bloombastic during the last 6 weeks of flower.

Wtf is Congo? Lol I'm not a strain chaser as I've been breeding my own stuff for a bit. Links ?

Deep Congo is Deep Chunk x Congolese. It's a Richard Williams cross. Incredible stuff. Unfortunately it's not available right now.

Blue Sonja (Snake Oil FTW)
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hydr1

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so far no one has said anything negative about it who has used it im probably think im gonna purchase enough to do a run, and test it myself. besides im a big beliver in snake oils


btw since i started using a full line i have grown better bigger stonier buds now some do great with lucas, rezipe, K.I.S.S, and ive tried them all i do better with the full line and so do my buddies

so here is another question

what all could bloombastic replace..
can it replace my protekt since it has silica?
or my liquid and dry kool bloom since it has pk boost?
or should i just add less of these + bloombastic??

oh and feel free to keep posting frosty nugs grown with the bloombastics!!

my snake oils


Cut out the powdered KB and run the rest 50-75%

To stainless:: I bet those cmh add a lot of that greasiness. Combined with how kill, instead of hps loss of yield
 

@b$+r@c+

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WORTH IT.
I've experienced excellerated lateral growth in about 36 hrs. after one application, as well as increased or 'other' terpine production. IMO it's got alot to offer in one small bottle for a nominal cost. I view it as somewhat of an 'all-around' bloom additive... like Big Bloom, Cha-Ching, Open Sesame etc. in ONE bottle.
IMO its optimal use is minimal; 1 feed in the last week of VEG., 1 at wk. 3-4 and 1 or 2 doses to finish up with... that's what I believe shows the full effect, and efficiency of Bloombastic.
Dont take my word for shit though. Play with it! Think outside the box as to HOW you use it and other products. Let the GIRLS tell you what they think! :)
 

farmdalefurr

I feel nothing and it feels great
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shoot me your addy and ill send out all the sample bottles i have in my cabinet collecting dust, anyone who wants em

have a bunch of rootbastic 2
 

whoz

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Everyone understands that these nutrient companies can only list certain nutrients right? ...because of the way agri-busness runs American government the process to get a new nute added to the list of acceptable nutes is extremely long and costly. This is why when you go on Advanced's website they ask you where you are located. If you select worldwide you can read ALL of the ingredients in their products. SOOOooo this would make pretty much all nutrient labels look the same, because its illegal for them to list the 'new' nutes. THUS making all fancy new products look like "snake oil" so you will continue to purchase the same old shit they've been pushing for years. Now who's got the snake oil???
 
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YosemiteSam

I am with Homebrewer...and yes I tried BB a while back.

There is absolutely nothing special in it. No doubt it works...IF you are lacking in your basic formula what it provides. If you aren't, well hang on cause you are fixin to lock out Mg for sure and possibly Ca also.

Once you do start mixing your own it becomes painfully obvious just how much snakeoil gets peddled by these companies. Another thing you probably have to experience to believe.

but if you wanna go down the list:
silica...chunk some clay or diatomaceous earth in your media...maybe a dimes worth
aminos...nice microbiology food unless you use them to chelate...that flat does not happen by adding them to this bottle and then dumping it into your res...I will post a link to patent info if you like
vitamins...feed your plants the proper minerals in the proper ratios and they make their own...for free
the rest is potassium and phosphorous...only with an acid form and a base form of K in the same formula...not many chemist would recommend that, I am guessing it is a good way to precipitate salts
 

Bobby Stainless

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Well YS, not even Homebrewer mixes his own nutes like you do. Also, he said that it didn't work, which you just said it did. You also didn't insult the people who decide to use it. To say it does not work, is false.

I am not a Chemist, majored in Business Admin, so the H3ad formula + BB + Calmag works for me and it is not that expensive.
 
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YosemiteSam

No question it works for some depending on their base formula.

But to say it would work for everyone without knowing the base is wrong.

I do like that they add iron. There is not a single bottled formula on the market that does have enough iron, especially when people use the nutes at less than full strength.

The H3ad formula is good NPK wise. IMO it lacks Ca and micros though. So the biggest bump comes from iron...remember it is the thing you are deficient in that limits yield. So if you add iron, P and K...and you were honestly short on iron but not P, K...you will get a yield boost. But you did not need P and K...and you sure as fuck did not need aminos (if those actually make it into the plants all you did was make your plant attract spider mites...incomplete proteins is a mite invitation) or clay (not water soluble anyways, mix some up in water and let it sit overnight...by morning there is sediment on the bottom of the glass...and good thing cause the aluminum in it is a known aggravator of Alzheimers)

A whole lot of the variegation you see on certain plants is nothing more than an iron deficiency.

So if the question is does it work...well I would want to know about a growers water source, his media, his base formula, his growing method and maybe a couple of other things before I just said yes or no.
 

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