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That's what...they come on here and rant but don't have the guts to name names...give us your top 10 breeders both good and bad...
Bean prices are out of control.
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That's what...they come on here and rant but don't have the guts to name names...give us your top 10 breeders both good and bad...
blackmarket
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Well all right then.....I want to buy the best! Who can name the top 10 true breeders so I know I'm gettin' my moneys worth! Anybody?
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Simon Templar
Let's say we would like to know those to be counted on one hand among the ones displayed in "Seed Vendor Forums".
ST
P.S. What about the legendary SOMA, Mr. Nice, Serious Seeds ?
ST
P.S. What about the legendary SOMA, Mr. Nice, Serious Seeds ?
Han Grolo
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Well perhaps you should look for someone with an education, love for the plants, positive attitude, and good customer service..
Oh wait, Chimera already posted!
Chimera you truly seem to be the plants champion and can't wait for your book.
I would be all over those Highland Mexican x Blueberrys if i wasn't aiming for a low profile scrog.
Oh wait, Chimera already posted!
Chimera you truly seem to be the plants champion and can't wait for your book.
I would be all over those Highland Mexican x Blueberrys if i wasn't aiming for a low profile scrog.
bad breeders are people that are chucking pollen in there closet and asking 100 or more for there gear..I dont consider these people breeders.. These are real breeders IMO..
Chimera
Tom Hill
DJ Short
Sam
DGS
CBG
Simon
im sure I have missed a few good people and some cant be listed here on ICM.. There are way to many bad ones to list.. Soma does not make my list I had some of the worst experiences with his gear and not one person to help with the problems I had and im not the only one..
Chimera
Tom Hill
DJ Short
Sam
DGS
CBG
Simon
im sure I have missed a few good people and some cant be listed here on ICM.. There are way to many bad ones to list.. Soma does not make my list I had some of the worst experiences with his gear and not one person to help with the problems I had and im not the only one..
you have to add shantibaba to that list
dont forget ARJAN
....lolseriously he is a good salesman, and they got good lemon haze, but other than that.....
daheadies
poppin' outta control
You want some freaking amazing F1's.... Get Connoisseur anything... I highly highly recommend the ChemJones or Secret Recipe.. everything is 90 bucks.. the cheesedog is supposed to be amazing too..
Silly Hammerhead.. that does not tell me genetis..
Re read Chimera's post and wonder how many really competent "breeders" there are out there whose seed is actually worth paying proper money money for. 5 that I can think of, him being one of them. I am talkiing of people who are actually at it now, not those who did great things in the past, the topic is about beans, for germinating.
Most replies seem to be talking up one "team" or another, few seem to have spotted the man mention the actual nuts and bolts of doing it properly, or thought through the significance of his words.
Knocking out crosses of Elites doed not make you a Breeder, just a Seedmaker, the first is worth 100/pack .. but the second really is worth nothing more than 20 or 30/pack. That is presuming it is tested, plenty is sold untested.
Raco correctly pointed out that most of the industry are buying them in at 5 or 6/pack of 10.
Most replies seem to be talking up one "team" or another, few seem to have spotted the man mention the actual nuts and bolts of doing it properly, or thought through the significance of his words.
Knocking out crosses of Elites doed not make you a Breeder, just a Seedmaker, the first is worth 100/pack .. but the second really is worth nothing more than 20 or 30/pack. That is presuming it is tested, plenty is sold untested.
Raco correctly pointed out that most of the industry are buying them in at 5 or 6/pack of 10.
That's all there is. If you want to know ask Chimera. You probably will never know DJ does not tell ya where he got his genetics from..
daheadies
poppin' outta control
IMO the best TRUE breeders (meaning breeders who work their strain over and over b/f putting on shelfs and charging a bunch) are not necessarily the ones with the best strains.. Some companies have taken other True breeders strains and crossed w/ some amazing clone only's to produce things far better then "true" breeders ever did..
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$50 - $200 per 10 pack of seeds
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$400 oz of dank
me, ill buy my seeds, grow equipment, nutes and pay the increased cost in electric and ill come out WAY ahead.
oh, forgot to mention the cost of gettin caught growing in a non med state.......still worth growin my own.
there are threads where members list who they believe are the top breeders...........just go do your own research b/c what I like and think is Potent may not mesh with what YOU like.
i choose my strains soley on medical effect.....not worried if it yields well or finishes in 8 wks or if it turns nice colors.........only on how well it works on my spasms.
go to the bay and look in the server fund or xmas specials, find your price point and then search here on the boards or in the specific breeder section.
Ultra Sonja from GrindHouse is @ $30 per pack.................very good price...good daytime med for me.
Shit from Mr Nice is one of their least expensive strains.........sweet frosty ass nugs and by far the fastest clones to root......never over 6 days and roots exploding out of the starter plug.
or
$400 oz of dank
me, ill buy my seeds, grow equipment, nutes and pay the increased cost in electric and ill come out WAY ahead.
oh, forgot to mention the cost of gettin caught growing in a non med state.......still worth growin my own.
there are threads where members list who they believe are the top breeders...........just go do your own research b/c what I like and think is Potent may not mesh with what YOU like.
i choose my strains soley on medical effect.....not worried if it yields well or finishes in 8 wks or if it turns nice colors.........only on how well it works on my spasms.
go to the bay and look in the server fund or xmas specials, find your price point and then search here on the boards or in the specific breeder section.
Ultra Sonja from GrindHouse is @ $30 per pack.................very good price...good daytime med for me.
Shit from Mr Nice is one of their least expensive strains.........sweet frosty ass nugs and by far the fastest clones to root......never over 6 days and roots exploding out of the starter plug.
daheadies
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Make sure to go to the Xmas section for the ultra sonja for 30!! Its still 60 under grindhouse's section..
In this case I would say its Cannacopia's fault... as a newer consumer (been on here for a year, other places long ago) I have zero knowledge of CC's products or seeds...
You have to get SOME promotion going on, especially when vending lower cost wares that benefit from high volume...
So no test growing threads, no buzz whatsoever, at least on this site.
edit: i even click on the 'new posts' icon, so its not like i' not looking... perhaps the cannacopia people are spanish speaker? i dunno man i aint heard of them mofos
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Hi Chimera
There are still a few hours left before the application period ends on this opening with the IAEA. It only pays 93K, but it is in Vienna.
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I see it like this; you have breeders and then you have people making crosses. I'm pretty new to all of this but to me it seems you are a breeder if you're working generations and refining a genetic pool. To me it would seem that if you haven't started out with landrace varieties or worked an F2 to an F5-6 then you're just making crosses (not preaching this as gospel, just how I see it, so far).
So in relation to seeds being expensive, it's all relative. On one hand you have people putting out enormous resources in R&D (as Chimera pointed out) and then you have other people standing in the shoulders of these giants. When buying seeds, I think it would be wise to think about where you want to see the industry go. Where your dollar goes, the industry goes as well.
Ultimately, in my opinion, a seeds value isn't in the end product, but what went into making it.
So in relation to seeds being expensive, it's all relative. On one hand you have people putting out enormous resources in R&D (as Chimera pointed out) and then you have other people standing in the shoulders of these giants. When buying seeds, I think it would be wise to think about where you want to see the industry go. Where your dollar goes, the industry goes as well.
Ultimately, in my opinion, a seeds value isn't in the end product, but what went into making it.
So true!
Also remember that WE, growing in unfriendly countries for personal use, are the risk takers. The days where seeds were produced in hidden basements are mostly gone, big companies mass produce in foreign countries where they're safe enough and give the seed production task to third parties. Support small breeders with fair practices and prices
Peace
=K
I see people whining about the same thing in so many markets... However the cannabis seed market doesn't even have huge companys with monopol... I mean I get the idea that sharing is caring and whatnot, but if it wasn't a free market don't u think it'd be a whole lot less attractive? Why the fuck are you whining, if you don't like the price for something, don't fucking buy it, nobody is forcing you. It's that simple...
pottyfingers.. ^^^^
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