Convince me that a 75day strain is worth cash cropping...

[one Q]

what about a lower yelding strain that you can ask more $ for vs a high yield for less $??

example-

55-60day PCK purple phenotype great herb from CBG can easily sell for $30 a Gram and $450oz. But she is so low yielding that it can feel like a waste of space.

Up against say...

75-80day (good yielding line here) that would only pull $20 a gram and $300oz

When you run numbers on a calculator, you could almost double your yield with the high yielding line but get almost the same amount of cash as you would for the lower yield purple.

Then what? from a cashers perspective?

 

[brotherindica]

What about a killer 65-70 day strain that yields decently?


Chem D, Chem 4, The White, OG (so many & hybrids too)........quality & decent yield. All "done" at 70 days, White little earlier.




I'm curious, why would you say a 75-80 day strain would go for less $? Sour D & SSSDH are 2 of my favorites in that harvest window. I'd imagine they'd pull in equal $, if not more then PCK. Not bagging on PCK at ALL.......some great bud & an awesome breeder.

 

[TheHobbit]

Greetings,

I have a AMS white widow mom whose clones are dead done at exactly 49 days. You cut it then people swear its laced with something, the most extreme sat high without any paranoia I've ever experienced. If you wait until week 8 or 9 to cut it, it turns back into just ordinary weed.


Frodo

 

[one Q]

out here it's mostly "green" good- "purple" better. Mostly cause of Rap Songs.

So you think that if one were to grow a line that is unheard of, BUT SUPER STRONG, that just off the strength alone one could ask for $30/G or even $65per1/8? I didnt know that. Shows you how much I know about the game any more... Been at this from OG days so I havnt bought weed in about 9years.

If this is true, then my side of the debate has been crushed and I need to make a written apology, and encourage my friends to start at least a walk-in closet grow.

 

[ShroomDr]

No math yet?

Ok, 60 days vs 75 days.

75/60 = 1.25

So if you can get 25% more yield from "Strain B" which goes 75 days vs "Strain A" which goes 60 days, you would be wise to 'cash crop' "Strain B".

Are you convinced?

 

[BasementBreeder]

No math yet?

Ok, 60 days vs 75 days.

75/60 = 1.25

So if you can get 25% more yield and/or cash from "Strain B" which goes 75 days vs "Strain A" which goes 60 days, you would be wise to 'cash crop' "Strain B".

Are you convinced?

fyp

 

[Guest 150314]

Depends on the strain and your market, the biggest yielder ive seen is a 75ish day cut of jack herer you can veg for a few days and average 4 oz per plant easy. Not having to veg saves a lot of time and money.

 

[supermanlives]

if you grow shit others aint willing to because of the longer flowering times. then you get paid . well i do anyhow

 

[longearedfriend]

I boycott shitty weed and invite others to do the same

demand the good stuff

 

[kmk420kali]

Im guessing pack = pound? Never heard that one before. But I agree, not being in a hurry to sell is the key to getting your money out of anything, not just cannabis. It's growers who are putting themselves in this position of having to take whatever they can get, due to poor planning.

Appearance is everything. Going in with the *appearance* of not being in a hurry to sell is what it's all about, even if you really are. That's the reasoning behind tossing out a couple of ounces free for samples like it ain't no thang, and making sure you have enough cured and on hand to sell a bunch right then and there if needed, plus more soon behind it.

When people see you have your shit together, they're much more likely to want to develop a steady trade relationship with you, even if it costs them more per unit, because the smart ones recognize that lack of consistency (from other players) costs them too in other ways. And if they say no, you say oh well, and wait.....they will come calling when those jars run dry and other suppliers fuck them over. But the trick to long term success is you have to actually have your shit squared away, always, because all it takes is a couple screw-ups/delays for that trust to evaporate just as quickly as it accumulated.

The Market (Streets) here in Cali are over saturated...there are now too many Growers, to keep the Buyers in need--
We just pulled 100 lbs...and we are a small player-- We are lucky to get 2 a lb...because others are letting their outdoor (We grow Greenhouse) go for 14 to 16-- It is hard to compete with that--
True, quality will count for a lot...to the end users....but to the ppl that are buying 20, 50, or 100 packs...they are going to be very demanding of competitive pricing--
Wish it was different...but it ain't--

 

[krunchbubble]

and then us indoor guys have to compete with those prices and we pay for electricity......

 

[gingerale]

Well I suggest everyone just sack up and learn how to demand good pricing. If the end user demands it and will pay your prices, then who gives a flying fuck what the middle man thinks? You need to be finding a way to get your product to them! Salesmanship, and marketing come into play here.

I had the good fortune to spend some time in Afghanistan where I had the opportunity to meet some of the finest businessmen and hagglers on planet Earth. You think your bullshit excuses ("oh I was in a hurry needing the money", etc) for not demanding good prices and your business not working out holds any water when these guys come from nothing and would kill for a bowl of rice, yet somehow manage to survive and prosper even? And here we are talking about a product that sells for thousands of dollars a POUND, in the biggest and richest market in the world, and you are struggling to make ends meet?

Sounds like some folks are just not cut out for this business. Others just need to step up their game some!

 

[Closet_Grower]

^^ or the days of slanging your over priced herbs is over???

whatcha going to do when its going for $2200 a elbow? dreaming right...

oh wait that is reality here...

any strain IMO is worth growing if your getting $4000 a pound.... 60 days 100 days all relative if now your saying better weed should be even HIGHER than $4000?

my fucking zipp lock baggie better be a zip lock and no lame ass sandwich bag...

oh and you talk about saturation?? BC and the lower mainland has/had the largest amount of grow op per capita...

when i was 16, it was 1 in 7 houses.... no joke... hence why prices are rock bottom here. Weed is everywhere.

therefore its cheaper than the North Pole.... If cali is the land O weed , then sell based on supply and demand... you got too much supply clearly.

 

[longearedfriend]

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[one Q]

Very true Ears.

 

[longearedfriend]

I know that a person can work hard to produce some good 400$ type bud

I just have a hard time sympathizing because I would like medicinal herb to be available for everyone.. so i'd like the prices to go much lower s

it sucks that your income is being shortened

some people are rich now because of the herb

risks in some locations have fallen, offer has risen
prices have fallen

prices will hit a new low

 

[one Q]

after reading about you guys moving 50+ packs... Im so glad Im out of that game. I used to hustle when I was in my 20s but i was movin Qps... and even then was stressing. I stress so much less with a couple plants than holding Qs and 1/2Ps.

Thanks for all the great perspectives, everyone I wanted to be in here came thru... THanks.

 

[Mister_D]

I just want to thank shroom dr for doing the math and putting it out there, i've been way too busy and smoking too much, to bother. Gingerale and others have made some very good points also. However I will agree cali/BC are different animals than most markets, just way to many people growing. Though it's true growers should be setting the price, when too many people are at it trying to make a quick buck, low prices are the result. I sell my meds cheap to my patients for one reason, they are sick. I don't mean my foot hurts sick, more like aids, cancer, nerve diseases etc. However if I decide to go outside of that client base it's 250 a oz minimum I don't care how much quantity a person is buying. Not for what I took down in the satori thread, but in my big room that is dialed with select clones that produce consistant connisuer grade. Most growers in my area are lucky if they get 200 a oz even for small quantities. I've been all over the country and real AAA will always sell for top dollar because not many people can produce it at all, much less consistantly on a commerical scale. This is true even in cali. I know this for a fact as my mentor still gets 4000 for lb all day and has no trouble moving it. All about your client base. Most people are happy drinking budwieser, even consider it a top shelf beer. Those that truely appreciate quality will pay for it because they understand what it takes to get it and how rare it is. Ultimately lots of individual considerations come into play when choosing what you grow. Consider these aspects, do the math, and see what works best for you and where you are in the world. Then handle it or get out of the game.

 

[Hundred Gram Oz]

For cash cropping if numbers aren't a problem then run a SOG, 4 plants per SQF, 12/12 with rooted clones FTW

 

[Guest 150314]

^^ or the days of slanging your over priced herbs is over???

whatcha going to do when its going for $2200 a elbow? dreaming right...

oh wait that is reality here...

any strain IMO is worth growing if your getting $4000 a pound.... 60 days 100 days all relative if now your saying better weed should be even HIGHER than $4000?

my fucking zipp lock baggie better be a zip lock and no lame ass sandwich bag...

oh and you talk about saturation?? BC and the lower mainland has/had the largest amount of grow op per capita...

when i was 16, it was 1 in 7 houses.... no joke... hence why prices are rock bottom here. Weed is everywhere.

therefore its cheaper than the North Pole.... If cali is the land O weed , then sell based on supply and demand... you got too much supply clearly.

Your not factoring the differences in overhead into your equation though, californians pay about 10x what we do in BC for hydro.

You can run 60 lights here for like 2 grand a month not to mention medical here is also federally legal so less risk of going big.