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Cannabis and Anxiety and Depression Medications
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StinkyGreen
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I would suggest cleaning up your diet (cut out all sugar/alcohol/processed foods), getting at least 30 mins of moderate exercise every day (walking is fine), and cutting out pot* for one month. Drink lots of water too. You'll feel like shit for the first few days as your body goes through withdrawal symptoms (mostly from sugar), but stick with it and you'll feel like a new person at the end of the month. Then re-evaluate whether or not you need to take meds.
To keep yourself honest, keep a food and exercise diary. If you fall off the wagon, don't give up, just get back on again. But be honest with yourself - if you don't stick with it, it won't work.
I would recommend that anyone try this just to experience what it feels like when you treat your body right. I have seen this simple approach change people's lives. You can add back what you want after one month. At that point you'll be able to tell what makes you feel crappy/anxious. Good luck.
*Edit: I agree with SuperConductor's comment below. Pot is not likely the root cause of your anxiety. It's more likely that it's making you more aware of the things that aren't going right in your life, the result of which is your feeling anxious. It's ultimately your call on whether cutting it out for a month will help or not. Personally, I treat pot as a reward for when my life is going well, and avoid it when I'm over-stressed or feeling down. That works well for me, and I feel my relationship with the plant has helped me make significant advances in both my personal and professional life. Everyone is different though. Listen to what your heart and body are telling you. You know yourself better than anyone else does.
To keep yourself honest, keep a food and exercise diary. If you fall off the wagon, don't give up, just get back on again. But be honest with yourself - if you don't stick with it, it won't work.
I would recommend that anyone try this just to experience what it feels like when you treat your body right. I have seen this simple approach change people's lives. You can add back what you want after one month. At that point you'll be able to tell what makes you feel crappy/anxious. Good luck.
*Edit: I agree with SuperConductor's comment below. Pot is not likely the root cause of your anxiety. It's more likely that it's making you more aware of the things that aren't going right in your life, the result of which is your feeling anxious. It's ultimately your call on whether cutting it out for a month will help or not. Personally, I treat pot as a reward for when my life is going well, and avoid it when I'm over-stressed or feeling down. That works well for me, and I feel my relationship with the plant has helped me make significant advances in both my personal and professional life. Everyone is different though. Listen to what your heart and body are telling you. You know yourself better than anyone else does.
Except for cutting out pot....that's some great advice.
Do what you can to find sativas... not indicas.... and increase your usage.
Check out this information.... some of the foods you're eating may be contributing to your issues.
Oh.. and quit taking the Rx. There are so many side effects NOT listed on the warnings... ones that jack with your head and other parts of your body. Believe me... Rx is NOT the answer.
You need cannabis strains with Limonene in them. Lemon Haze, Sour Larry, Sour Diesel, Lemon Skunk (though I'm sensitive to skunk), etc...
Also... what are you accomplishing these days? "Reward" endorphin release is directly hardwired in the brain to "Accomplishment". Set, work toward and achieve worthwhile goals and your brain will dump lots of "Happy" and "Reward" endorphins into your bloodstream. You'll be happy.
I've spent a lot of time in my head. Rx is the only thing that really messed with it in ways I couldn't keep up with. They jack your body, metabolism and immune system up with some weird ass effects on your brain.
Keep it natural and....
Stay Safe!
Do what you can to find sativas... not indicas.... and increase your usage.
Check out this information.... some of the foods you're eating may be contributing to your issues.
Oh.. and quit taking the Rx. There are so many side effects NOT listed on the warnings... ones that jack with your head and other parts of your body. Believe me... Rx is NOT the answer.
You need cannabis strains with Limonene in them. Lemon Haze, Sour Larry, Sour Diesel, Lemon Skunk (though I'm sensitive to skunk), etc...
Also... what are you accomplishing these days? "Reward" endorphin release is directly hardwired in the brain to "Accomplishment". Set, work toward and achieve worthwhile goals and your brain will dump lots of "Happy" and "Reward" endorphins into your bloodstream. You'll be happy.
I've spent a lot of time in my head. Rx is the only thing that really messed with it in ways I couldn't keep up with. They jack your body, metabolism and immune system up with some weird ass effects on your brain.
Keep it natural and....
Stay Safe!
I had a similar feeling with that drug. It starts by numbing your emotional pain and works it's way into your brain and zombiefies you to the point where you believe bullshit like the blood type diet. The only positive I got from this drug was when i stopped taking it, felt as though i'd woken up from a motivational and intellectual coma.
It doesn't stop depression it stops you feeling anything much. I'd say this can be very useful in the short term for people who are having serious problems but don't let them put you on this long term.
I wouldn't worry about your heart just now, you tend to get negative feedback loops with anxiety and chest pains/unusual feelings. The more you worry about it the worse it gets in a psychosomatic way.
It's a sad realisation to make but there's no doubt cannabis can make anxiety worse for a lot of people. I see it as the plant telling me something, 'stop abusing me you dick' she says so i listen and try to respect her more.
It's all very subjective but it seems you've identified it as a trigger so keep an eye on it but don't let it become a self fulfilling prophecy, if you think you'll get anxious every time you smoke there's a good chance you will so try not to think that.
When things are getting bad remembering to breath deeply is very useful. Then get up and do something constructive, Stinky Green's advice is awesome, you'll feel much better. My excuse for not following my own advice? It's saturday
B
bench warmer
This too shall pass
This too shall pass
Hi Highlight.
StinkyGreen nailed it.
If you lapse in any of those easily practiced (but often neglected) daily routines, be mindful to get back on track as soon as possible to regain ground towards feeling well again.
Put the bong away for the first month or 6 & use a vaporizer for your favorite strains if you do decide to use cannabis during the initial journey back to enjoying your Self.
Drink as much water as you can (without causing discomfort of course..LOL!). Squeeze the juice from a piece (or a whole) lemon into your water. Add pure honey if you need to sweeten it. In spite of the lemon juice being acidic the lemon causes your body's pH to be more alkaline, which is healthy. Eating plenty of green leafy vegetables also helps make the body more alkaline.
Spend as much time walking outdoors somewhere you find appealing. I choose shorelines. Avoid too much negative data such as watching, listening or reading the daily news. Focus on a personal interest like gardening, or whatever floats your boat.
Avoid alcohol completely. I wouldn't be surprised if the pharmaceutical companies are directly tied in with booze companies so they can sell the addictive depressant (alcohol) and the addictive anti-depressants to the masses in a vicious cycle of evil intents.
Hope you feel better soon bro. It's normal to experience life's ups & downs. They're simply processes of our human being.
Keep us posted on your wellness.
Peace on Earth
This too shall pass
Hi Highlight.
StinkyGreen nailed it.
If you lapse in any of those easily practiced (but often neglected) daily routines, be mindful to get back on track as soon as possible to regain ground towards feeling well again.
Put the bong away for the first month or 6 & use a vaporizer for your favorite strains if you do decide to use cannabis during the initial journey back to enjoying your Self.
Drink as much water as you can (without causing discomfort of course..LOL!). Squeeze the juice from a piece (or a whole) lemon into your water. Add pure honey if you need to sweeten it. In spite of the lemon juice being acidic the lemon causes your body's pH to be more alkaline, which is healthy. Eating plenty of green leafy vegetables also helps make the body more alkaline.
Spend as much time walking outdoors somewhere you find appealing. I choose shorelines. Avoid too much negative data such as watching, listening or reading the daily news. Focus on a personal interest like gardening,
or whatever floats your boat.Avoid alcohol completely. I wouldn't be surprised if the pharmaceutical companies are directly tied in with booze companies so they can sell the addictive depressant (alcohol) and the addictive anti-depressants to the masses in a vicious cycle of evil intents.
Hope you feel better soon bro. It's normal to experience life's ups & downs. They're simply processes of our human being.
Keep us posted on your wellness.
Peace on Earth
O
OrganicOzarks
Change your diet, and exercise everyday.
I eat only organic food, no caffeine for over a decade(except in chocolate in the past), no soda of any sort for over a decade, no meat of any kind for a decade and a half, no high fructose corn syrup, no food coloring, no processed non-food food, no sugary treats(fruit only), and i exercise every single day. I don't drink alcohol either. I cook almost 100% of my meals. On the occasion that I do go out it is to a select group of restaurants.
I feel way better then I did a decade ago. Also I am the same weight as when I graduated high school over a decade, and a half ago. Try it, once you take the first step all of the others get easier. It has taken me many years to do this, but every few years I add something else to the list.
As far as herb messing with you goes, I have been where you are. I thought it was messing with me as well. However when I started to change these things I realized that is was all of this crap that is marketed to you as food, and beverage that is fucking with you. Lack of exercise as well. The best way to regulate your mood is to work out.
Smoke out, then work out. The only downside being that you can't remember what set of rep's you are on.
Also ditch your alarm clock, and wake up when your body tells you it's ready. It is amazing how much more energy you will have.
I eat only organic food, no caffeine for over a decade(except in chocolate in the past), no soda of any sort for over a decade, no meat of any kind for a decade and a half, no high fructose corn syrup, no food coloring, no processed non-food food, no sugary treats(fruit only), and i exercise every single day. I don't drink alcohol either. I cook almost 100% of my meals. On the occasion that I do go out it is to a select group of restaurants.
I feel way better then I did a decade ago. Also I am the same weight as when I graduated high school over a decade, and a half ago. Try it, once you take the first step all of the others get easier. It has taken me many years to do this, but every few years I add something else to the list.
As far as herb messing with you goes, I have been where you are. I thought it was messing with me as well. However when I started to change these things I realized that is was all of this crap that is marketed to you as food, and beverage that is fucking with you. Lack of exercise as well. The best way to regulate your mood is to work out.
Smoke out, then work out. The only downside being that you can't remember what set of rep's you are on.
Also ditch your alarm clock, and wake up when your body tells you it's ready. It is amazing how much more energy you will have.
Negative thoughts are like spider mites, you need to kill them early before they spread and develop. Iv had panic attacks for ages cutting back on weed and change of diet are great also when you do decide to toke again take some vitamin c 30 mins before you smoke this will help with anxiety. Diet really is crucial to feeling good though.
every one else has better input than mine,
but
from experience i can tell you that coffee is a great anti-depressant, and it goes great with herb.
but
from experience i can tell you that coffee is a great anti-depressant, and it goes great with herb.
eloquentsoution
Member
stinky green is right on except for eliminating cannabis, which is difficult when you use it as medication. i have PTSD from childhood issues. trainwreck is the best med for that issue, though other strains work. i have found nothing that resolves anxiety and ptsd better then cannabis.
anti depressants are evil to the body/mind/spirit and difficult to wean. eliminate them if you can.
i would also eliminate nitrates from your diet. read labels when you shop.
advise for exercise; find something you like doing or you will not do it for long.
my best to you on your journey.
anti depressants are evil to the body/mind/spirit and difficult to wean. eliminate them if you can.
i would also eliminate nitrates from your diet. read labels when you shop.
advise for exercise; find something you like doing or you will not do it for long.
my best to you on your journey.
B
bench warmer
Cannabis and Anxiety and Depression Medications
Heck if I know.
You're probably already doing better than you give yourself credit for.
Not every person can see or admit their life is imperfect. I feel it's often this mode of self awareness which frees us in ways that allow our more creative selves to emerge.
Being in a rut is simply life's way of offering us a contrasting perspective of options that make us feel good.
Heck if I know.
You're probably already doing better than you give yourself credit for.
Not every person can see or admit their life is imperfect. I feel it's often this mode of self awareness which frees us in ways that allow our more creative selves to emerge.
Being in a rut is simply life's way of offering us a contrasting perspective of options that make us feel good.
LetsSeeYa
Member
Set up small goals for yourself and complete them and build on them making them a priority in your everyday life. Start with the small stuff thats been posted like diet, excessive, good thoughts from your past. Then create new goals, which you never thought about or have but never acted on. Put them on paper where you see them, like maybe in your bathroom on the mirror so its something tumbling around in your brain. It will help off set the bad, cuz bro there is always going to be bad shit so once you know and expect it from time to time, its not such a tough blow to you when it hits. On the other hand, enjoy the shit out of the ''good'' which will be there, ya just need to understand the ''good'' and the ''bad'', because good must out way the bad in your life, this my friend gives you the ability to shake off all the crap that life brings.
Im just saying ya need to know shit will come, but the good shit, well it stays with ya, if you make it! And pay attention to the world around you, you will see that your going to have it better then most people. Works for me, thats why i posted. Trust me i have my moments, but that thing about having it better then most is the kicker and im a quadriplegic yet have it better then most in this world. Plus good human interaction is great to bounce shit off, because you can keep it if its good and bury it if its bad. Then dig out the good shit when your feeling down, it works, try it. I know ya got really simple things that made your world at the time, use it to strengthen your mind. Makes for being an optimist rather then a pessimist in life, this helps put a spin on a bad thing into a lesson!
Peace,
LSY
Im just saying ya need to know shit will come, but the good shit, well it stays with ya, if you make it! And pay attention to the world around you, you will see that your going to have it better then most people. Works for me, thats why i posted. Trust me i have my moments, but that thing about having it better then most is the kicker and im a quadriplegic yet have it better then most in this world. Plus good human interaction is great to bounce shit off, because you can keep it if its good and bury it if its bad. Then dig out the good shit when your feeling down, it works, try it. I know ya got really simple things that made your world at the time, use it to strengthen your mind. Makes for being an optimist rather then a pessimist in life, this helps put a spin on a bad thing into a lesson!
Peace,
LSY
eloquentsoution
Member
the issue with the two states, anxiety and depression, is the cannabis required for each are opposed. you need thc to deal with depression and cbn to dean with anxiety. since thc is the precursor to cbn, it is critical that they are somewhat balanced lest the thc send you to anxiety and the cbn to depression. according to observation in self and others as well as reports on formulated meds taken.
does this make sense?
does this make sense?
I agree with this post more than anybody else's. I to had a very similar time in my life that I had to deal with. I cut pot out completely and changed diet according to blood type, got A LOT more exercise and generally turned my life in a different direction. Sometimes we can get caught in stagnation and pot certainly does tell us that we need to change things. I now smoke only when I have done everything that needs doing. I would say a break from it would be a good idea. I took a break for a number of years and when I came back smoking it was like the first time all over again, wonderful...
I'm a big believer in pot as medicine but sometimes a break from it is a very healthy option.. I would really consider this. Also look into some alternative approaches to medication, eg: St. Johns Wort etc.. Very good when your feeling down and a very powerful natural 'pick me up'. Do some research my friend......
All the best and don't ever lose hope!!!
Hightlight..sorry to hear of your problems buddy, please remember your doctors are the trained pros in this field. In most cases thier advice should always be followed first. The brain's nothing to mess with! You might also consider keeping them advised of your med mj use, if you're legal.
Many of us have benefited from the advice we get here.
Just having someone listen and care, like everyone that has posted in this thread, is a lifesaver.. As for cannabis and your type issues, there's a lot of research yet to be done. Be careful..DD
Isn't that the standard of modern medicine these days-proscribe and clear the office for the next one.
One only has to look at the pen holder to realize who is paying for the next golf trip.
The above posts have more relevance for your (or anyone) health than the good doc. I really agree with the idea of setting small goals, along with exercise, both aerobic and strength. I have found digging in the vege garden to be fun and rewarding. No alcohol and everything in moderation.
One only has to look at the pen holder to realize who is paying for the next golf trip.
The above posts have more relevance for your (or anyone) health than the good doc. I really agree with the idea of setting small goals, along with exercise, both aerobic and strength. I have found digging in the vege garden to be fun and rewarding. No alcohol and everything in moderation.
F'n A Tweety!
Yet they do... every day.
Unless you're dealing with a doctor that's taken the time to work closely with people and their mental issues.... they're just going to throw a pill at you. Been there, refused that. They have NO clue what they're doing to your brain with those F'n pills and yet they have no qualms writing you a scrip for it.
Death doctors.
You want a doctor that's going to recommend all of the above diet and accomplishment advice (minus the pills), along with herbal remedies.... to help get you to a more stable state of mind. Some place where you can better deal with what's going on and recognize your individual issues.
That's like one doctor in a thousand... if not less frequent.
Love ya Doobie!... but I don't share your faith in the medical profession... done too much research in that area
Too many well intentioned people unknowingly doing destructive things.It's a sick society and health system we live in today... very difficult waters to navigate.
Stay Safe!
.... they're just going to throw a pill at you. Been there, refused that. They have NO clue what they're doing to your brain with those F'n pills and yet they have no qualms writing you a scrip for it....
Love ya Doobie!... but I don't share your faith in the medical profession... done too much research in that area
It's a sick society and health system we live in today... very difficult waters to navigate.
Stay Safe!
Hydro great post..some great points, but please let me clarify mine..I don't have much faith in this profession when it comes to the brain. I live with a seizure disorder and am fortunate to have an honest Doc that treats me. The first thing he ever told me was "it's your brain...and we don't know much about that yet..it's a very complicated thing, we know some things work on some people for some reasons!" If you have a Doc that says anything else you might consider finding a new one period.
Hydro I think some Docs are trying thier hardest to improve our quality of life. Cannabis improves my quality of life and I don't see the side effects like the pharm industery has with thier goverment approved medications.
So don't get me wrong Bro...I just like to see Peeps with serious brain issues get Pro advice before jumping to try that given by people who may have no real medical edjucation on the web. The diets, excersize, lifestyle..all great advice. Peace..DD
No worries, we're on the same page.
Your doctor sounds awesome!
CongratsI'm just trying to stress to people that they need to research out the best docs in their area for this. A general practitioner is just going to write whatever pill they think is best.... their intentions are good, they're just operating on inaccurate data.
Seek out the Pro's.... The hacks will just throw pills at you from the starting gate. There ARE pills that will jack your head up in certain areas for a loooong time. I'm a victim of that in certain areas... only took them for 2 weeks.
Think long and hard before popping any Rx in your mouth... try everything else first please. You'll thank yourself down the road.
Stay Safe!
