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What PH and EC are optimal
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Hello! That is a couple of loaded questions!! Lots of varibles..Coco? brand of nutes??
I run ebb&flo in Hydroton with House & Garden products (mostly
I let my PH and EC float up and down PH anywhere from 5.5 to 6.9..My EC from 1 to 1.4..I will push the nutes harder in the veg and work em down in flower..hope some of this helps...pal
I run ebb&flo in Hydroton with House & Garden products (mostly
I let my PH and EC float up and down PH anywhere from 5.5 to 6.9..My EC from 1 to 1.4..I will push the nutes harder in the veg and work em down in flower..hope some of this helps...palHello! That is a couple of loaded questions!! Lots of varibles..Coco? brand of nutes??
I run ebb&flo in Hydroton with House & Garden products (mostly
Thanks , it looks like this with a simple bubbler.
This is only in the beginning stage then I will build something bigger seperate for each plant. I have pretty high ph right now, its 8~ . I use leca in the cups.
Get It LOWER NOW
Any suggestion? Got all the canna nutrients for hydro. And destillated water wich is arount 5-6. But I cant make big quantites of it because its a little machine but I can fix it for now.
Maybe bikarbonat?
Thanks.
KrazyieFosho
Member
i take my seedlings out of the dome put them in the aero cloner and keep my ec at 1.6 from veg to end of flower ph from 5.5 to 6.0 try to keep it at 5.8 plants are nice and dark green leaves up in the air run multiple strains like this never burn always happy i use the kiss method 7g of maxi per gallon for everything till flush screw all those additives been there done that waste of money
I managed to get it t 7 ph with baking soda. Tried with some aqarium ph down "thing", didnt work at all.
I will put it the seedlings in soil, I cant take any risks of killing these seedlings. I will try to find a way to get better ph and then but the rest of the seedlings there I guess.
Have some more to sprout.
Is it possible to take clones from a plant in soil into hydro later?
Herbophile
Member
This is exactly what I do when I'm running hydro. It's so easy a cave man could do it.
Advanced Nutrients ph down is the best product I've ever used for lowering ph.
Herbophile
Member
Yes. I would go as for as to say this how most people do it that are running hydro. But you can take a clone off any plant and later plant it in any media you choose after you have roots. And there are many ways of cloning so you'll have to do some reading and research and find out what is going to work best for you and your budget.
Get some real pH down. The fish store stuff and baking soda aren't acceptable for more than a day or so.
You're in DWC/SWC so your pH should be at around 5.4 to start. Check the pH before you top off the res with water each day... if the pH doesn't get down to 5.2, mix your next batch at a slightly lower pH.
Over the next week or so your pH should rise. If the ec is low, the pH will rise quickly. If the ec is too high, the pH will rise slowly or drop. (Your plants will also look pretty dark and bad)
I would highly suggest reading up on the Lucas Formula and adjusting your nutrients to match, if possible. Easiest hydro I've ever run and still loving it 10 years later.
Stay Safe!
You're in DWC/SWC so your pH should be at around 5.4 to start. Check the pH before you top off the res with water each day... if the pH doesn't get down to 5.2, mix your next batch at a slightly lower pH.
Over the next week or so your pH should rise. If the ec is low, the pH will rise quickly. If the ec is too high, the pH will rise slowly or drop. (Your plants will also look pretty dark and bad)
I would highly suggest reading up on the Lucas Formula and adjusting your nutrients to match, if possible. Easiest hydro I've ever run and still loving it 10 years later.
Stay Safe!
Hydro soil for the win. I recommend ANs pH Down, GH pH down is little better than vinegar.
Why distilled? Hydro is hundreds of years old and it's first lesson was distilled water is dead water. It has nothing the plant needs and nute makers leave their formulas intentionally deficient in essential trace elements because we are expected to add them through the use of tap water. Using distilled makes you doubly deficient. You can certainly kiss any idea of pH control goodbye.
While it's technically possible your tap is bad, odds greatly favor it as far better than distilled. Do you drink water from your tap? Wash dishes, brush teeth, clean clothes, give it to your dog, water the lawn? If you use tap water for any of those things, there's no reason to avoid it for growing weed.
This is true.. but people still need to seek education on the subject.
Tap water is a HUGE variable in the country. Yep. Many areas are really bad now. Problem is I've seen people do this with their tap water when they really shouldn't be using it at all.
Really sucks when you see people with heavy metal poisoning signs... from drinking and bathing with the water for years. *sigh*
Stay Safe folks!
Baking soda is best left for the 10 minutes it takes to go to the store for legitimate pH Up. Avoid kitchen products. They are vastly inferior and astronomically expensive. pH Up or Down is so dirt cheap it may as well be free. Get the real thing.
I recently bought a apartment so I do not have any money for my hobby for real. Nothing...
I will try with Canna COGr BUFFER AGENT, gonna check the ph tomorow and see it if the water ph has changed a bit.
The ph was about 8.7 now in the bucket directly from the tap and I added about 4ml to 2 litre water.
Anything you recommend? It should stabilize the ph in water.
You said I that ph controller didnt work? Or did I missunderstand you?
pH controller? You mean a system that adjusts the tank for you? They're out there but they ain't cheap.
Best way to control pH is lose the distilled water and get some legitimate pH Down. AN makes a great one. Used by the drop it can last for weeks. Vinegar is used by the tablespoon and lasts a few hours. Vinegar is used at thousands of times the rate of pH Down.
Best way to control pH is lose the distilled water and get some legitimate pH Down. AN makes a great one. Used by the drop it can last for weeks. Vinegar is used by the tablespoon and lasts a few hours. Vinegar is used at thousands of times the rate of pH Down.
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I dont use dstilled water for my plants so much, I mix a little just to get the ph down a bit. The distilled water is for me instead of tap water and I mix it with my my smothies sometimes.
The Canna COGr BUFFER AGENT have lowered the ph in my tap water just a bit now its 8 instead of 8,7 lol. Im gonna but some more of that into the water and see if it lowers more.
When I said ph controller I ment a digital "ph stick" , dont really know what they are called. Its a digital ph controller that you put into the water to measure the ph. Got a same for EC aswell.
Measuring EC and pH is done with meters. Sometimes they're sticks, pens or boxes with probes.
Buffers and adjusters are two different things. A buffer is like an electric blanket. Electric blankets do not heat the bed (unless used incorrectly) You provide the heat, the blanket maintains it. Buffer agents are not used to adjust pH, they maintain pH. pH adjustment uses pH adjusters aka pH Up or pH Down. You didn't say how much buffer was used to lower your pH by 0.7. I can tell you that 1.0 ml (1/5 tsp)/gal of pH down will drop my pH by 5.2 points (from 8.2 to 3.0)
Canna COGr BUFFER AGENT is used for growing in coco slabs. You say you are (or want to be) growing in a DWC. Why are you using the wrong product incorrectly with the wrong media? Using the right products correctly with the proper media generates better results. Lose the RO, it's little better than poison and plays havoc on pH, lose the buffer (or the bubbler, your choice) and get some pH Down.
Buffers and adjusters are two different things. A buffer is like an electric blanket. Electric blankets do not heat the bed (unless used incorrectly) You provide the heat, the blanket maintains it. Buffer agents are not used to adjust pH, they maintain pH. pH adjustment uses pH adjusters aka pH Up or pH Down. You didn't say how much buffer was used to lower your pH by 0.7. I can tell you that 1.0 ml (1/5 tsp)/gal of pH down will drop my pH by 5.2 points (from 8.2 to 3.0)
Canna COGr BUFFER AGENT is used for growing in coco slabs. You say you are (or want to be) growing in a DWC. Why are you using the wrong product incorrectly with the wrong media? Using the right products correctly with the proper media generates better results. Lose the RO, it's little better than poison and plays havoc on pH, lose the buffer (or the bubbler, your choice) and get some pH Down.
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