Any strains good for diabetes?

[Red Fang]

I have type 2, and I thought I read somewhere that some strain(s) assist with that or offshoot symptoms of that. Any info on that? I am now on insulin my numbers have gotten so high, I am not perfect on diet on exercise but much better than before and improving. I noticed cannabis seems to bring my numbers lower even on days of low exercise or diet control, and non-cannabis days where I exercise, watch my diet, and take the insulin and all those other meds, I have higher numbers. So I am wondering if some strains are better than others with this. thanks in advance

PS. please move this to the appropriate forum, if there is a medical use forum I did not see it. thanks agaiN

 

[Stoner4Life]

none that I'm aware of, imo. anxiety can drive sugar levels higher. which ever makes you feel best yet doesn't induce the munchies, I'm type 2 as well.......

 

[Red Fang]

yes that is it exactly! I can be active like crazy and sometimes my levels are not as good as when I sit for hours but attain an almost trance-like sedative state! I am just slightly over what I should be for my height weight-wise, with my numbers it is as if I eat big macs 2 times a day after a pound of bacon and a dozen eggs, and then wash it all down with a milkshake and half gallon of ice cream! Maybe not all that but close! And yet I have a better diet then the average American. I can't understand it and it is frustrating!
But I tend to have panic attacks and then my numbers really go through the roof into the 300's and sometimes even 400's. What is the highest you can go and live anyway?
so back to the point, what was that now? Don't know but you mention munchies, damn do I get that big time even without cannabis, oddly I get it worse without cannabis! I can in my weaker moments eat like 2/3 a bag of potato or corn chips! 5-9 and 180, have been as much as 194 or so but losing weight steadily. I am trying to find healthy munchies, like nuts maybe for instance, when I absolutely can't overcome my urges. I have been on 10 cc of insulin and told I have to increase to 15, when on the 10 early on I was able to get quite a few readings in the 100's but now I can't get below 230's. Although I have gotten to 204 today, with cannabis and no pills/insulin. I can't figure it out! I am hoping some strain helps more than others. thanks though dude, you have been a big help. peace

 

[toughmudderdave]

Diet and exercise (primarily cardio) is the only thing that's going to do it for you. Shitcan any fruit intake, lay off the starchy carbs such as potatoes, corn, rice, pasta. Exercise 1 hour/day and you should see a dramatic improvement.

 

[yortbogey]

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=225510&highlight=oxyclone

not a MMJ strain but a contender for help non the less......

 

[greenpinky]

If u can control ur your belt size u can control ur diabetes. Just get that waste to a smaller size and u wont have it anymore

 

[Snoopster]

And yet I have a better diet then the average American.

I hope it is better than that.
A friend of mine has diabetes and has reduced his insulin intake tremendously through diet and exercise. He smokes a ton of weed, enough so that panic attacks from sativas can't happen.

Someone mentioned nuts - that is probably one of the best snacks there is. I buy a big jar of mixed nuts at costco and grab a handful every time I am hungry. They make you feel more full than chips and are not terrible for you.

Exercise will help anything. I'm not talking 30 minutes of walking around the block, I mean 30 minutes, three times a week minimum, sweating your ass off.

The fat ladies in my neighborhood walk to the coffee shop, get a mocha chino sugar fatty deluxe coffee then walk the .3 miles home and call it exercise. Then they loudly complain they can't lose any weight despite "exercising" 6 times a week.

 

[yortbogey]

U fucking guys need to seriously .... realize....
NOT ever Diabetic patient has the Strength or Stamina to exercise ....several patients already have IRREVERSIBLE DAMAGE that makes EXERCISE A serious problem and unacceptable issue.......

things like
Cardiovascular disease. Diabetes dramatically increases the risk of various cardiovascular problems, including coronary artery disease with chest pain (angina), heart attack, stroke and narrowing of arteries (atherosclerosis). If you have diabetes, you are more likely to have heart disease or stroke.
Nerve damage (neuropathy). Excess sugar can injure the walls of the tiny blood vessels (capillaries) that nourish your nerves, especially in the legs. This can cause tingling, numbness, burning or pain that usually begins at the tips of the toes or fingers and gradually spreads upward. Left untreated, you could lose all sense of feeling in the affected limbs. Damage to the nerves related to digestion can cause problems with nausea, vomiting, diarrhea or constipation. For men, it may lead to erectile dysfunction.

Kidney damage (nephropathy). The kidneys contain millions of tiny blood vessel clusters (glomeruli) that filter waste from your blood. Diabetes can damage this delicate filtering system. Severe damage can lead to kidney failure or irreversible end-stage kidney disease, requiring dialysis or a kidney transplant. The rates of serious kidney disease have dropped significantly in recent years, likely due to improvements in diabetes management.
Eye damage (retinopathy). Diabetes can damage the blood vessels of the retina (diabetic retinopathy), potentially leading to blindness. As many 25 percent of people with diabetes have some form of diabetic retinopathy. And, about 4 percent of people with diabetes have diabetic retinopathy that's so advanced that it may affect their ability to see.
Foot damage. Nerve damage in the feet or poor blood flow to the feet increases the risk of various foot complications. Left untreated, cuts and blisters can become serious infections. Severe damage might require toe, foot or even leg amputation.

NOT EVERYONE can just go Jog around the block and feel better.....

 

[supermanlives]

there is a medical forum . hope you find what ya need

 

[Snoopster]

My bad about the exercise.
My buddy with diabetes exercises but does have to take it easy on his feet.

Swimming is about as low impact as it gets.

 

[420somewhere]

Yours sounds worse than mine ...

Yours sounds worse than mine ...

Red Fang,

It sounds like your Type 2 Diabetes is worse than mine was. More than 7 years ago I was diagnosed with Type 2.

Through diet and exercise I was able to lose 100 pounds. I have kept it off all of this time.

Last year I no longer needed the diabetes medicine. I cut back on my drinking, don't overeat and stay away from starchy foods.

My advice is that, you probably have underlying health issue, which Medical Marijuana can help you with. If you are overweight, it can help with joint pain. If you have a hard time sleeping or staying asleep it can help you. It can help you lower your blood pressure.

Although I smoke regularly, I have found that edibles helped most medicinally.

My knees don't hurt, I am in the best health in the past 20 years.

Good Luck

 

[Red Fang]

Diet and exercise (primarily cardio) is the only thing that's going to do it for you. Shitcan any fruit intake, lay off the starchy carbs such as potatoes, corn, rice, pasta. Exercise 1 hour/day and you should see a dramatic improvement.

thanks man even if I don't like to hear it, it seems that is all that will work for me if anything will. big question is, is it possible that no matter what I do nothing will work and if so what causes that? I am willing to try anything but as I said, it seems my levels aren't much worse, just maybe 30 points higher, if I don't obey all the rules vs if I do! If I had the choice between living 5 years of misery doing what I don't want or 3 years living how i want, I would pick the latter.

 

[Red Fang]

I hope it is better than that.
A friend of mine has diabetes and has reduced his insulin intake tremendously through diet and exercise. He smokes a ton of weed, enough so that panic attacks from sativas can't happen.

Someone mentioned nuts - that is probably one of the best snacks there is. I buy a big jar of mixed nuts at costco and grab a handful every time I am hungry. They make you feel more full than chips and are not terrible for you.

Exercise will help anything. I'm not talking 30 minutes of walking around the block, I mean 30 minutes, three times a week minimum, sweating your ass off.

The fat ladies in my neighborhood walk to the coffee shop, get a mocha chino sugar fatty deluxe coffee then walk the .3 miles home and call it exercise. Then they loudly complain they can't lose any weight despite "exercising" 6 times a week.

I hear you and in the past I may have been the same, but I lost 4 pounds in no time and am 180 at 5 ft 9 or 10, so not horribly overweight by any means although I feel for those that are and are trying and can't quite make it.

 

[Red Fang]

U fucking guys need to seriously .... realize....
NOT ever Diabetic patient has the Strength or Stamina to exercise ....several patients already have IRREVERSIBLE DAMAGE that makes EXERCISE A serious problem and unacceptable issue.......

things like
Cardiovascular disease. Diabetes dramatically increases the risk of various cardiovascular problems, including coronary artery disease with chest pain (angina), heart attack, stroke and narrowing of arteries (atherosclerosis). If you have diabetes, you are more likely to have heart disease or stroke.
Nerve damage (neuropathy). Excess sugar can injure the walls of the tiny blood vessels (capillaries) that nourish your nerves, especially in the legs. This can cause tingling, numbness, burning or pain that usually begins at the tips of the toes or fingers and gradually spreads upward. Left untreated, you could lose all sense of feeling in the affected limbs. Damage to the nerves related to digestion can cause problems with nausea, vomiting, diarrhea or constipation. For men, it may lead to erectile dysfunction.

Kidney damage (nephropathy). The kidneys contain millions of tiny blood vessel clusters (glomeruli) that filter waste from your blood. Diabetes can damage this delicate filtering system. Severe damage can lead to kidney failure or irreversible end-stage kidney disease, requiring dialysis or a kidney transplant. The rates of serious kidney disease have dropped significantly in recent years, likely due to improvements in diabetes management.
Eye damage (retinopathy). Diabetes can damage the blood vessels of the retina (diabetic retinopathy), potentially leading to blindness. As many 25 percent of people with diabetes have some form of diabetic retinopathy. And, about 4 percent of people with diabetes have diabetic retinopathy that's so advanced that it may affect their ability to see.
Foot damage. Nerve damage in the feet or poor blood flow to the feet increases the risk of various foot complications. Left untreated, cuts and blisters can become serious infections. Severe damage might require toe, foot or even leg amputation.

NOT EVERYONE can just go Jog around the block and feel better.....

I applaud you for your reassurance and such, but damn dude you scare me! Kidney? Yeah I worried about that, as I wet my knickers a couple times, just slightly is the weird thing, just enough to make it wet but not a full fledged bed wetting like I had as I child (and was beated relentlessly for). I often wake up with tingling fingers or toes or a general nervous anxiety way before I expected to wake up. sometime whole limbs go asleep or I can't get rid of that tingling feeling in my fingers, arm, or more rarely head or legs. Until I get up, take aspirin at least 2 pills 2 or more times daily, and take other pills for all my other conditions. 7-8 total I am on, lost count.

 

[Iron_Lion]

 

[Red Fang]

haha yeah the feared Brimley, like the grim reeper but not all that. Ya check your blood sugar and and you check it often ya here?! yet still scary with all his ads! If I haven't mentioned I am 5 9 or 5 ft 10, 180 is my latest and lowest weight which is pretty good only slightly over BMI. thanks for the laugh anyway but it is serious if you have it! Cocoon was it? OK seriously now where was I? OH yeah sugar sucks if you don't have it do all you can to avoid it weight loss is key.

 

[lost in a sea]

is it possible that no matter what I do nothing will work and if so what causes that? I am willing to try anything but as I said, it seems my levels aren't much worse, just maybe 30 points higher, if I don't obey all the rules vs if I do! If I had the choice between living 5 years of misery doing what I don't want or 3 years living how i want, I would pick the latter.

no it isnt possible that nothing will work imo,, change the fats you are taking in,, i agree no starchy carbohydrates its so unnatural for people to consume the carbs they do today,,, eat less red meat and more fish because this will help reduce the damage of the fats already in your system,, more fruit and veg,, and exercise can be a dodgy one it depends on the amount of damage to organs,,,

the food in america is scandalous so i would advise cook for your self as much as possible and try not to use ingredients crazily high in salt and reversed hydrogenated fats or all the other crap to watch out for like high fructose corn syrup, alot of E numbers and sweetners,,

what the fuck americans have with salt i dont know lol,, salt and cinnamon wtf

in the case of many type 2 diabetics in america and the west, it is damage to other organs like the liver which gets coated in reverse hydrogenated fats which end up changing the enzymes released from the liver into the blood stream with time causing a biological craving for saturated fats, but more importantly the enzymes also tell the body to start depositing more saturated fats into the arteries and around organs instead of subcutaneously,, the cells in the pancreas that produce glucagon and insulin which balance out the blood sugar are quickly damaged compared to the effect of this on most other major organs,,,

try to kick your system in more and rely on pills less because adding anything to the body to counter act something is a slippery slope as the body becomes reliant on that and therefore lazier until your on a huge course of drugs and injections and still end up losing your foot,,

why im saying this i dont know because you probably already know this stuff,, i would say that all ganja will help in many ways with the damage associated with decreased pancreas function but none that i can think of will help more than others apart from possibly potent sativa/indica mixes that medicate and motivate

 

[Red Fang]

yeah man, I wanted to discount all you said. after all I haven't had fast food for like 10 years or nearly so, not recently that is for sure. But I could use a lot more fish and veggies in the diet! Exercise, ugh exercise! I have some days where I get way more than enough and have even had a hyper hypo fit where my levels where 67. Although unpleasant to say the least, what I would not give for such a fit lately! I have almost no hydrogenated fats, carbs and salt may be a bit high as well as alcohol but nothing outrageous! Yeah dude HF Corn syrup, I avoid that like the plague except when taking ginger ale for nausea. I live in a non-med state, in CA for instance would I qualify for serious cannameds then as I kind of need them to say the least! Yeah I have no doctor just a Nurse practitioner, but she claimed before I may have had issues with 3 organs (kidney, pancreas, liver I believe?) now she is mum on such topics and brushes them off when I ask. my God what is happening to me somebody help as I have far too much good to do in the world to go now or within 1-3 years!

 

[HeriMarry]

Any strain that helps with depression.

"Depression affects as many as 70 percent of patients with diabetic complications"

 

[Red Fang]

thanks HeriMarry! Any ideas on strains that might work, like pleasantly up sativa highs that don't cause anxiety?