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Oatmeal topdress

h.h.

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I top dressed a couple girls with the just under a teaspoon of oatmeal covered with a bit of vermacompost. This gave me a " living mulch" of fungus. I gave them six small chunks of sb guano over 2 weeks period and then topdressed again with the oats and some horsetail which greened them up a bit. They also got a small pinch of steamed bonemeal. __________________
They stiffened up with the horsetail. They both took a tumble off of a high shelf,(damn) landing upside down with minimal damage. The fungi is deep in the pots and helped hold the soil together. Since the fall, I gave them a break on any feeding until tonight which was simply oatmeal. They've lost a bit of their green and I want to see if I can bring it back just a tiny bit without the guano. For the most part the medium is holding it's own and I want to see what just the oats will do, though they'ii probably get a little more horsetail and a couple more small pinches of the bonemeal.
 
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SeaMaiden

Try some pee to green them back up. Starting ratio of 8:1 should be good, assuming decently strong pee.
 

Microbeman

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If you mix in oat flour or wheat bran with your vermicompost at 1:20 you should get high numbers of bacterial feeding nematodes which help cycle nutrients to the roots.
 

moses wellfleet

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my local worm castings supplier says he feeds yellow maize meal to his worms when he wants to give them a boost and encourage them to breed like crazy, i tried it with cooked brown rice and the little guys loved it came up to the surface and fed off the stuff for days.
 

h.h.

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If you mix in oat flour or wheat bran with your vermicompost at 1:20 you should get high numbers of bacterial feeding nematodes which help cycle nutrients to the roots.
That is what I find happening now. When I added the bits of guano and the horsetail, the effect seemed almost instant which I attributed to fungal activity though it's entirely possible I'm reading it wrong.
The medium is like a crumbly spongepot. Nice and cushy. The worry is that it might get too dense, so I have aerated it with a skewer. Probably more precaution than necessity.
One young seedling is doing well in it. Two others that were struggling to start with, wilted up.
Thanks for the response. It's kinda what I was looking for. While I like what I see, I realize that I may just be lucky with my unscientific methods
 

h.h.

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my local worm castings supplier says he feeds yellow maize meal to his worms when he wants to give them a boost and encourage them to breed like crazy, i tried it with cooked brown rice and the little guys loved it came up to the surface and fed off the stuff for days.
I've used corn with the worms as well as spread it like fertilizer in the garden, It makes an excellent compost starter. Cornmeal would be interesting to try. I may try a few with the oats, if I don't get that tinge of green I'm looking for.

Try some pee to green them back up. Starting ratio of 8:1 should be good, assuming decently strong pee.
I don't use pee because of the social factor. It goes to the ornamentals.
This grow is primarily to see what the oats will do.
 

h.h.

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Again,so much for scientific methods of deduction. I supplemented their oats with a pinch of the steamed bone meal 3/16/0.
My main objective isn't necessarily using the oats, it's to create a heavily fungal dominated soil. To create the sponginess of virgin forest floor. The oats take that idea to the extreme.
When I say a pinch, think baby aspirin, or as it was called in the ol; days, strawberry mescaline. Half the size of a baby aspirin...Six inch pots.
Just enough greening up to notice. While I don't believe the bone meal was the factor, it still remains a variable.
A thimble full of oats. I don't want surplus. Just enough to feed the soil. I don't want to see it after a couple of days. I can add more.
 

h.h.

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Abused and a bit light deprived. Hert x chemdog
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50% vermicompost 50% Sunland soil
They're congregating on the squash. They likeum.

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Decomposing yucca making up the bulk of the vermicompost. Dark humus sticks to your hands.
This is a special piece. When dry, the heart wicks water and holds it creating semi anaerobic conditions. The result is nitrogen. It has an ammonia scented odor very much like quano. I'll tea this up and dilute it heavily.
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h.h.

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Got lemon?
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Same plant. Trying to determine any difference in coloration. Very slight I believe.
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Rusty420

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naw dude thats wrong, you need some nug-tech depleted uranium all in one bottle fert...biggest buds i ever see and only $500 for a 6week flower cycle...makes for great weed when you use the polymer resin enhancement system with the stick on purple trichomes, you can really taste the isotope flavour of the uranium and the purple trichs just add bag appeal.....:D

serious man, stop feeding your plants pee, its not natural..:nono:

p.s maybe try eating the oatmeal next time, thats what its for, jeez..:rolleyes:
 

h.h.

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:nono:

p.s maybe try eating the oatmeal next time, thats what its for, jeez..:rolleyes:
Let's not address that scenario. You thought peeing was bad?
I just use the tea. It's a bit redundant with all the yucca already in the soil. Most will go to the roses. I find it's main benefit is in the heat of summer when they're out by the pool.
 

bonsai

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I topdress my bonsai with organic brown rice flour and ewc at about 1:5, also to increase fungus.
I do similar with 1:1 kelp meal for fungal ACT.
Doing the same in second half of flower this round, no idea what benefit it may be having as I have no control specimens for comparison.

The flour thread is worth reading https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=132088
 

bonsai

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I topdress my bonsai with organic brown rice flour and ewc at about 1:5, also to increase fungus.
I do similar with 1:1 kelp meal for fungal ACT.
Doing the same in second half of flower this round, no idea what benefit it may be having as I have no control specimens for comparison.

The flour thread is worth reading https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=132088
 

Rusty420

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lol..;)

i top dressed with a mix of the biobizz shit, aka soil mixed with rockdust, potash and brewers yeast: let sit with water and turned n dried a lil before using a couple times this run..it got a good layer of fluff, no shrooms..:D im gonna try a mix of oatmeal and ewc, with some rockdust as a topdress in veg real soon.:)
 

h.h.

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I topdress my bonsai with organic brown rice flour and ewc at about 1:5, also to increase fungus.
I do similar with 1:1 kelp meal for fungal ACT.
Doing the same in second half of flower this round, no idea what benefit it may be having as I have no control specimens for comparison.

The flour thread is worth reading https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=132088
That link was probably on the back of my mind when starting this. Thanks for bringing it up again.
While my thinking takes a few twists, like you my main interest was the fungal activity. While it is not a mycorrhizal relationship per say, soil qualities are greatly enhanced.
The reason I used oatmeal is because I like oatmeal. I already have it. As suggested corn might be a better cheap alternative. Brown rice may add additional benefit.
Actually feeding this way has been a secondary thought. Tiny bits of fine material. MM mentioned the attraction of nematodes to the oats bringing in another angle.Another reason to use them to feed the soil.
Got me thinking of other stuff. Perhaps a pinch of coconut with their oats tonight. Yum!
 

h.h.

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lol..;)

i top dressed with a mix of the biobizz shit, aka soil mixed with rockdust, potash and brewers yeast: let sit with water and turned n dried a lil before using a couple times this run..it got a good layer of fluff, no shrooms..:D im gonna try a mix of oatmeal and ewc, with some rockdust as a topdress in veg real soon.:)
When I used the cornmeal on the wormbed to get it going, I was getting mushrooms. More of the top fluff. I believe they're a bit hotter. Cornmeal and rockdust. Now I'm spending money. I already gave them each a pinch of coconut, more than doubling the cost of the grow.
Time to pull out the diamond blade and cut up some stone.A little quartzite, some red sandstone. Marble?
 
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Did you know that you can feed garden snails on cornmeal for 2-4 weeks, then they're ready for harvest? Wild snails taste better, IMO. Get yourself some garlic and mushrooms, boil the snails out their shells, drop a couple into a mushroom cap, top with garlic butter and broil it's off til the mushrooms are cooked, and you've got yourself a DAMN tasty treat. And, assuming you're not putting out poison, healthy, too.
 

h.h.

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Can they be fenced in? I could make pastures and herd them around in the clover.
 

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