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don't see how cannacopia are rip offs myself.. but as to blubba his cheese was a disgrace, word is he begged people for the cut on uk420.. and in a few months released BBC etc... cheese was/is free and HGF did a better job with it.. if he was/is chucking pollen on clones with a few BC thrown in he should charge a sim price to Cannacopia etc.. he IMO has f**Ked a lot of things up .. have you seen what is being sold as cheese these days.. its a disgrace
maybe its the fact he portrayed himself as some genius/saviour of cheese, did he just enter cheese at the cup rather than his f**k up?
oh and then theres the fact he sold out to GHS etc...
WoW Fizz, those are some wicked looking things man, fair play dude, you can really see the diesel in it man, 'Grapefruit-tastic' man, looks pretty similar to what i busted out last year, wicked poo man! Nice Work' dude, oh and Cropi Canna i think i meant Kopite, with their crazy fruit fems that cost the earth, like 3-400 quid for 10 fems the jokers.
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Nice one Fizz, thanks for posting those up, looking really nice and healthy there.
Always interested in the Strawberry Chiesel, looks like there are 4 different lines being worked in the UK, Heaths, Big Buddah, Max Lumens and another from a friend I have not seen mentioned here.
Seems like it is a few peoples idea of the "Holy Grail" plant, exceptional quality with good yield and flower time.
Always interested in the Strawberry Chiesel, looks like there are 4 different lines being worked in the UK, Heaths, Big Buddah, Max Lumens and another from a friend I have not seen mentioned here.
Seems like it is a few peoples idea of the "Holy Grail" plant, exceptional quality with good yield and flower time.
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hi CC, thanks for stopping in m8 and the kind words.
yeah the chiesel from heath is something special m8, it will be a keeper in my garden both of them for years to come, some people prefer the chi to any other strain i got just now and i got a few, seems to me like its the perfect cross, SD ibl x UK Cheese, a winner for sure in every1's eyes, so easy to grow also, thanks for stopping in m8.
yeah the chiesel from heath is something special m8, it will be a keeper in my garden both of them for years to come, some people prefer the chi to any other strain i got just now and i got a few, seems to me like its the perfect cross, SD ibl x UK Cheese, a winner for sure in every1's eyes, so easy to grow also, thanks for stopping in m8.
Wow Fizz,
Looks Lush bro, SD Ibl as apposed to BB's NYCD from Soma. I'd luv to try it to compare, Heaths does look better but only in Mass(i cat say on qual untill i try it), looks to be a better yielder-(but i did ScrOG mine hence the large yield i managed), i cant even post my grow pics of it like i said my Lad deleted them, all i have are 'some' misearble pics of my harvest. the point i was trying to make to kop was BB's prices are reasonable compared to some that really are rippers. Ive sampled his BBCheese & liked it alot. His new Auto is very nice, first one ive grown & i was impressed, very nice Taste & High indeed & reasaonbly priced, was by far the best of 10 dif auto strains. Heath is a living Legend for sure. Top shots Fizz, Enjoy you lucky bugger!
Have you posted these pics in the UKClone only thread Fizz?
If could buy the beans of Heaths Chiesel i would, or maybe ill bump into a cut one of these days, that'd be nice!
Best o Luck!
Looks Lush bro, SD Ibl as apposed to BB's NYCD from Soma. I'd luv to try it to compare, Heaths does look better but only in Mass(i cat say on qual untill i try it), looks to be a better yielder-(but i did ScrOG mine hence the large yield i managed), i cant even post my grow pics of it like i said my Lad deleted them, all i have are 'some' misearble pics of my harvest. the point i was trying to make to kop was BB's prices are reasonable compared to some that really are rippers. Ive sampled his BBCheese & liked it alot. His new Auto is very nice, first one ive grown & i was impressed, very nice Taste & High indeed & reasaonbly priced, was by far the best of 10 dif auto strains. Heath is a living Legend for sure. Top shots Fizz, Enjoy you lucky bugger!
Have you posted these pics in the UKClone only thread Fizz?
If could buy the beans of Heaths Chiesel i would, or maybe ill bump into a cut one of these days, that'd be nice!
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Tyvm Scrogerman for stopping in and the kind words, im pretty sure the SD male that was used was a SD from rez, this is some strong ass weed as in smell and high, and it also looks really good as well, Heaths beans are better than BB's anyday m8, i did not pay anything for they beans Heath gave me Scrogerman, if Heath was selling they beans i would be grabbing a few packs myself, hope 1 day he does decide to start selling his beans as he would be doing the world the biggest favor ever, by letting every1 get access to his genetics, as they are very hard to come by.
I am not to sure about posting any pics in that uk clone only thread tbh, its not like people cant get these genetics or im the only person with the strain in clone form, not sure what makes a strain clone only tbh, to me it would be something like uk cheese, cant buy any seeds so its clone only kinda thing, technically i could say the #1 and #2 are clone only as no1 else has the mothers i got but im pretty sure if you were to pop a packet of heaths chiesel you will find something very similar to what i got, so im not to sure it comes under a clone only strain m8.
again thanks for stopping in Scrogerman, hopefully the chiesel will find its way to you 1 day m8
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I am not to sure about posting any pics in that uk clone only thread tbh, its not like people cant get these genetics or im the only person with the strain in clone form, not sure what makes a strain clone only tbh, to me it would be something like uk cheese, cant buy any seeds so its clone only kinda thing, technically i could say the #1 and #2 are clone only as no1 else has the mothers i got but im pretty sure if you were to pop a packet of heaths chiesel you will find something very similar to what i got, so im not to sure it comes under a clone only strain m8.
again thanks for stopping in Scrogerman, hopefully the chiesel will find its way to you 1 day m8
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yeah i hope so- i would luv her soo much!. Technically your right of course, its just heath'ies gene's are so hard to come by i thought id run it by you, but i sorta agree, you got the beans from heath himself so technically shes not a C'O strain. Still soo Beautifull, K+ ive seen a few strains in that thread that shouldnt even be there, like MKUltra(No Offence DrD), nobody seemed to mind & a lovely example of it. Ive always admired Heaths work & his actual grows are stuff of Legend!
Peace...
keep up the fight bro!
yeah i hope so- i would luv her soo much!. Technically your right of course, its just heath'ies gene's are so hard to come by i thought id run it by you, but i sorta agree, you got the beans from heath himself so technically shes not a C'O strain. Still soo Beautifull, K+ ive seen a few strains in that thread that shouldnt even be there, like MKUltra(No Offence DrD), nobody seemed to mind & a lovely example of it. Ive always admired Heaths work & his actual grows are stuff of Legend!
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hey Scrogerman, just seen that thread there, clone only( and british bred strains ) technically its a british bred strain so i will get some pics posted in it later, cheers m8.
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Fizzbomb....Respect and thanks for the awesome pics.......Heathie`s never sold a bean in his life , but given 1000`s away cuz that`s the type Class individual He is.......
As you already said , He contacted you.....Feel fortunate in that he picks and chooses from folks with true passion for the plant......
Back when HG was still around , he donated bunch ta Doc and many folks got hold of his trials and tribulations as freebies with purchase.......
Me.....I`ve been fortunate enough ta try all he played with over the yrs , while seeing him dial the crosses till he thought they were worthy of sending out.....
He`s always been VERY particular on pheno selection before ever even having dusted tha hand picked girls with a worthy male opponent......
Has had a dedicated vertical setup for yrs that runs seedplants straight 12/12 for pheno selection to speed up the selection process.....
Chiesel`s some quality herb , but then I`ve never run anything from Heathie that wasn`t.......even his Sog fav Top 44`s from way back were the shit ....Not saying he bred Top 44 , but rather back crossed/perfected it for his production flip flop rooms.....
Black Rose and old school back crossed Viking cometa mind for more of his daytime smoke winners as long as yas don`t puff too hard.........Elsewise it`s to the couch.....
Take care and thanks again......DHF......
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As you already said , He contacted you.....Feel fortunate in that he picks and chooses from folks with true passion for the plant......
Back when HG was still around , he donated bunch ta Doc and many folks got hold of his trials and tribulations as freebies with purchase.......
Me.....I`ve been fortunate enough ta try all he played with over the yrs , while seeing him dial the crosses till he thought they were worthy of sending out.....
He`s always been VERY particular on pheno selection before ever even having dusted tha hand picked girls with a worthy male opponent......
Has had a dedicated vertical setup for yrs that runs seedplants straight 12/12 for pheno selection to speed up the selection process.....
Chiesel`s some quality herb , but then I`ve never run anything from Heathie that wasn`t.......even his Sog fav Top 44`s from way back were the shit ....Not saying he bred Top 44 , but rather back crossed/perfected it for his production flip flop rooms.....
Black Rose and old school back crossed Viking cometa mind for more of his daytime smoke winners as long as yas don`t puff too hard.........Elsewise it`s to the couch.....
Take care and thanks again......DHF......
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Hi DHF, tyvm for stopping in and the kind words m8, and your 100% correct about Heath not selling a bean in his life, but i honestly think its about time he should DHF as i have seen a lot of people using Heath's work in their crosses and making money off Heath's hard work, without his blessing I have to add as well, I think if Heath started selling his crosses for affordable prices he would be doing every1 a favor and I bet they would go faster than rez's beans if that is even possible lol, but it would mean loads of people could get access to his genetics as I understand he cant help every1 but he does an amazing job trying, as you say DHF the amount of beans the guy has gave away must go into the 1000's, and he must be 1 of the most respected breeder's on the canna scene, I think every1 knows and respects the work he must do with breeding and his grows are legendary, would be nice to see HR Genetics available to all, hopefully 1 day.
I was very grateful to get to try out some of Heaths crosses DHF, I already done a grow on the Black Rose but I got some of the very first Black Rose seeds and some new F7 Black Rose seeds also, cant remember off the top of my head what other crosses I got of his but I will check tomorrow whats there and get them posted up, next 1s im going to do for sure is, Heaths SD ibl's v Rez SD ibl's, pretty sure there will be a few keepers in there for sure, should be very interesting but im pretty sure thats what im going to run next, just got to get the rez SD ibl's first lol.
DHF the Chiesel that Heath made is is 1 of the best strains I have ever grown and I have grown a lot of strains, its so easy to grow, looks, smells and taste's amazing and the high is very strong as well, it really is an amazing strain but you cant expect anything else with the parents it has and the person working with the cross m8, Heath has done an amazing job with this Chiesel, think it could be 1 of the best cheese crosses there is.
DHF if you want to add any of Heaths crosses to this thread your more than welcome, but I think it really should have its own thread tbh and maybe you could add some in there, Heath Robinson strains as im sure there will be a lot of people running his crosses and it would be very nice to see other people pics of his strains, and out of all the strains you have done from Heath DHF, what would you say your personal favorite was m8???
again thanks for stopping in DHF and your reply, cheers m8.
I was very grateful to get to try out some of Heaths crosses DHF, I already done a grow on the Black Rose but I got some of the very first Black Rose seeds and some new F7 Black Rose seeds also, cant remember off the top of my head what other crosses I got of his but I will check tomorrow whats there and get them posted up, next 1s im going to do for sure is, Heaths SD ibl's v Rez SD ibl's, pretty sure there will be a few keepers in there for sure, should be very interesting but im pretty sure thats what im going to run next, just got to get the rez SD ibl's first lol.
DHF the Chiesel that Heath made is is 1 of the best strains I have ever grown and I have grown a lot of strains, its so easy to grow, looks, smells and taste's amazing and the high is very strong as well, it really is an amazing strain but you cant expect anything else with the parents it has and the person working with the cross m8, Heath has done an amazing job with this Chiesel, think it could be 1 of the best cheese crosses there is.
DHF if you want to add any of Heaths crosses to this thread your more than welcome, but I think it really should have its own thread tbh and maybe you could add some in there, Heath Robinson strains as im sure there will be a lot of people running his crosses and it would be very nice to see other people pics of his strains, and out of all the strains you have done from Heath DHF, what would you say your personal favorite was m8???
again thanks for stopping in DHF and your reply, cheers m8.
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Well shit my buddy.....You prolly opened up a can of worms...LOL.......All the crosses/back crosses he`s made I`ve been privy to run over the yrs ?........Hmmm...
Way back was Top 44 , Critical Mass , AK-47 , NL X G-13 x WW in all forms till he was happy with em for production and yield.........and then ........
He re-worked the Old school "Positronics" Viking with awesome success for production.....Then...
Some IBL`s and auto`s not many folks knew about , along with Chiesel and Black Rose .........
Talked to him couple weeks ago in PM on Thanksgiving Day.....He`s good , and busy as a 3 Pecker`ed Dawg with more rooms than Hilton Hotels.......
Heath`ll never run a "seed line" cuz he don`t need the cash...but...
He`ll always let some slip in from time ta time for everybody ta play with .........HG`s gone....Lotta freebie`s left that place......
Peace.....DHF.............
Way back was Top 44 , Critical Mass , AK-47 , NL X G-13 x WW in all forms till he was happy with em for production and yield.........and then ........
He re-worked the Old school "Positronics" Viking with awesome success for production.....Then...
Some IBL`s and auto`s not many folks knew about , along with Chiesel and Black Rose .........
Talked to him couple weeks ago in PM on Thanksgiving Day.....He`s good , and busy as a 3 Pecker`ed Dawg with more rooms than Hilton Hotels.......
Heath`ll never run a "seed line" cuz he don`t need the cash...but...
He`ll always let some slip in from time ta time for everybody ta play with .........HG`s gone....Lotta freebie`s left that place......
Peace.....DHF......
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hi DHF, I would rather buy my beans from Heath than any other breeder because of what the guy has done over the years for the canna community and all his strains are top class, the guy as a breeder is up there with the very best, im pretty sure every1 who knows Heath will know also its not about the money with him or he would have been selling his beans long ago and making a fortune from it long ago, but it just annoys me tbh when others are using Heath's work for their own strains and they are the 1s making money off Heath's work when the guy dont make a penny himself from his seeds, dont seem right to me DHF, and no matter what, this will always be the case, i know there is no copyright to any strains but there is ethics involved and im pretty sure most of these people would not even have the decency to ask for permission to work with the strains, they just go ahead and do it, think its about time Heath got payed DHF, affordable genetics to all and every1 would be a winner, just an idea.
so do you have a personal favorite out of the 1s you mentioned DHF lol, if you could pick 1 Heath strain to grow, which 1 would it be, ????
will post up the crosses i got tomorrow m8 from Heath, I know 1 of them was basic diesel x sour diesel and another was the SD ibl, think another was SD x POG, will check tomorrow for sure and get them posted up, thanks for the reply DHF, all the best m8.
so do you have a personal favorite out of the 1s you mentioned DHF lol, if you could pick 1 Heath strain to grow, which 1 would it be, ????
will post up the crosses i got tomorrow m8 from Heath, I know 1 of them was basic diesel x sour diesel and another was the SD ibl, think another was SD x POG, will check tomorrow for sure and get them posted up, thanks for the reply DHF, all the best m8.
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Sour Diesel IBL's
Diesel x POG
Black Rose and Black Rose F7's
Basic Diesel x Sour Diesel
I gifted my last 5 Chiesel seeds to a very good friend in the U.S about 2-3 weeks ago, I got a shit load of seeds DHF but they 5 Chiesel seeds were the 1's I valued the most, but I showed my friend some pics of the other strains I got and that is the 1 that stood out to him the most, so he got the last 5 I had, but I got 2 killer pheno's from the 5 I started, and im pretty sure he will find a keeper in the other 5 for sure, even the males looked special from the Chiesel, but sadly I did not keep any of them, just the 2 females, thanks again Heath, your a good man.
Diesel x POG
Black Rose and Black Rose F7's
Basic Diesel x Sour Diesel
I gifted my last 5 Chiesel seeds to a very good friend in the U.S about 2-3 weeks ago, I got a shit load of seeds DHF but they 5 Chiesel seeds were the 1's I valued the most, but I showed my friend some pics of the other strains I got and that is the 1 that stood out to him the most, so he got the last 5 I had, but I got 2 killer pheno's from the 5 I started, and im pretty sure he will find a keeper in the other 5 for sure, even the males looked special from the Chiesel, but sadly I did not keep any of them, just the 2 females, thanks again Heath, your a good man.
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this is 1 of the chi phenos my friend found in the last 5 seeds he got from me, he got 2 phenos, a green pheno and a purple pheno, now i asked heath about the purple pheno and he said he has grew out a lot of the chi beans and never came across a purple pheno, at first i thought it might have been temp related but he got 2 phenos, a green 1 and a purple 1, but here is a pic of the rare purple pheno which just won a BOTM competition.
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Nice work there Fizz, that purple plant is stunning, really nicely grown, looking forward to trying a bit sometime.
