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Happy Meals now ILLEGAL in San Francisco.......
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Well, she's working right now, or I'm sure she'd be happy to discusss this more.
However, knowing my wife, probably what set her off was you saying you hate your patients. Not something she tolerates in her nurses. She's fired 6 I can think of right off the bat for similar situations. One of her biggest "rules" is that if you hate your patients, you need a new career.
Nursing means pulling blood, vitals, meds, and but CARING for patients is the primary goal. Caring and hate do not coexist.
For the record, she's worked in PICU, NICU, SICU, CICU, General Peds, Oncology, Hospice, and Geriatrics. It's safe to say she has more than a passing familiarity with caring for patients of all ages.
And it's distended, not destined.
To be clear, her opinions on your nursing ability have nothing to do with Mickey Ds, which she hates with a passion.
That said, let's not derail the thread any father. If you want to take issue with nursing abilities, feel free to start another thread. Hell, maybe you'll get her to finally register her own account
Blue said:
So totally agree
It's ridiculous. Just straight manipulation of the worst kind. Kids don't have any money or self-control, so they're using the kids to twist mom and dad's buying habits. Fuckers What are you referring to here? Which rights are you referring to? There are many areas where a company does not have the same rights as a person.
I'm thinking poor food in general. Considering that food often has to travel farther from production to consumption in this country contributes to a lot of preservatives and non-natural ingredients.
We are also one of the richest countries in the world, which allows us to more freely spend on food. One off those things that sounds good on the surface, but comes back and bites you in the ass.
I live in Canada and have free health care, thank you very much.......no vigorous sodomizing of this Canuk by the Pharma-Nazis laddie.
I am not saying that people should pass the buck, nor am I advocating blaming the world for your kids issues....I am just saying that reining in the extreme predatory and malignant marketing methods used by most industries (esp those aimed at kids) is not a bad thing.
Anyone who targets 2-5 year olds with ad campaigns, merchandise and all the other shit is not only a scumbag, they are indoctrinating those kids with the philosophy that life is just one big shopping spree, and acquiring stuff = being alive.
Which is exactly what the Corpo-Nazis need to maintain their status quo...train up the next generation of brainless taxpayer consumers.
The problem is, that very same philosophy of continuous, overindulgent and extroordinarily wasteful consumption is exactly what has brought our species to the very precarious place we now stand in.
The whole Gulf of Mexico and a whole lot more will now be a fucking toxic mess for decades because a whole bunch of greedy, bloated and malignant donkeyhonkers don't want to give up their SUV's, their A/C or their steak 5 times a week.
ocean_grown
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Well, she's working right now, or I'm sure she'd be happy to discusss this more.
However, knowing my wife, probably what set her off was you saying you hate your patients. Not something she tolerates in her nurses. She's fired 6 I can think of right off the bat for similar situations. One of her biggest "rules" is that if you hate your patients, you need a new career.
Nursing means pulling blood, vitals, meds, and but CARING for patients is the primary goal. Caring and hate do not coexist.
For the record, she's worked in PICU, NICU, SICU, CICU, General Peds, Oncology, Hospice, and Geriatrics. It's safe to say she has more than a passing familiarity with caring for patients of all ages.
And it's distended, not destined.
To be clear, her opinions on your nursing ability have nothing to do with Mickey Ds, which she hates with a passion.
That said, let's not derail the thread any father. If you want to take issue with nursing abilities, feel free to start another thread. Hell, maybe you'll get her to finally register her own account
lol alright then. She sounds a lot like my boss actually, and for the record I don't hate all my patients, just bratty fat kids who turn into WWF champs the second I gotta break some skin.
Let me just start this reply by saying to you genk that you may be a good guy and all...hell, I might even like you and would call you friend. But we are on complete opposite sides of the fence on this issue. By your logic they (the gov't) should ban any and all advertising for children's products unless it is a safety product. No more kids toy commercials on NickJr anymore kiddies, just commercials for pharmacy drugs that cause anal leakage and the likes. Oh yeah, while we are at it let's have the moral police to come in and tell you what to think and say next.
I live in the greatest country in the world...sure we have our problems, but let's focus our attention of some real issues and not just think of stupid shit to waste our time and $$ on. If anything, San Fran should have started a multi million dollar ad campaign promoting public health and healthy choices. Oh yeah, California is broke because they can't seem to make decisions that = good fiscal policy. But no, let's take the easy way out and ban toys from happy meals.
BTW, how's that "free" health care working for you up there genk? How easy is it to get in and see a doctor, or better yet, a specialist?
I live in the greatest country in the world...sure we have our problems, but let's focus our attention of some real issues and not just think of stupid shit to waste our time and $$ on. If anything, San Fran should have started a multi million dollar ad campaign promoting public health and healthy choices. Oh yeah, California is broke because they can't seem to make decisions that = good fiscal policy. But no, let's take the easy way out and ban toys from happy meals.
BTW, how's that "free" health care working for you up there genk? How easy is it to get in and see a doctor, or better yet, a specialist?
Walt Jabsco
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I AM FROM THE GOVERNMENT AND I AM HERE TO HELP YOU. if you ever hear this run like hell!
^the government is the one that set the food standards in the fda allowing this shit to be sold as food in the first place, so now they have to try to fix it i guess... The FDA is a scam any ways. they ok what ever they are paid to ok.
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My MD has a walk in clinic every day from 8:30 to 9:30 am...no appointment needed.
Longest I ever had to wait to see a specialist was about a month for a minor affair. A buddy of mine who was diagnosed with melanoma was operated on the next day.
You say you live in the greatest country in the world........by your definition.
Certainly not by mine, or anyone who values the long term survival of the human species.
Yes, the US is a very free country with many liberties not enjoyed elsewhere....this is true.
But I personally cannot see a country that is the global flagship for conspicuous gluttony, over-consumption and extreme waste as being a beneficial influence on the world or the global environment.
Not like the US is the only example of this very short-sighted and infantile philosophy....almost everyone on the planet is locked into the same malignant, self-consuming paradigm.
The US is just the most "successful" at it.
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So it'll be great when no one ever has to take any responsibility for themselves and their decisions. We'll all just be told what we can and can't do down the very smallest details and then life will be so much better! Wait..that sounds like jail actually.
You can't legislate people out of making bad decisions. They'll just find something else to make shit decisions on. The only "solution" is to prevent anyone from ever making decisions. Either control every part of their lives or kill them. I won't support either option.
You can't legislate people out of making bad decisions. They'll just find something else to make shit decisions on. The only "solution" is to prevent anyone from ever making decisions. Either control every part of their lives or kill them. I won't support either option.
genk---"But I personally cannot see a country that is the global flagship for conspicuous gluttony, over-consumption and extreme waste as being a beneficial influence on the world or the global environment."
I wonder if all the countries that recieve aid from the U.S. after a disaster say that the American influence on the world and consumption of its resources is an extreme waste. We give to damn near everyone and get shit on by the rest of the world. I guess if your mind has already been warped by propaganda your own country shoves down your thoat....not to mention it seems you take it all with a smile...you are accustomed to accepting people making decisions for you. I want to make my own decisions and live with whatever consequences those decisions come with.
As far as the global environment, don't you think you should look at other countries such as China or India for helping in large part now-a-days for environmental pollution. Hear in America we have taken a big hit financially in order to make things more environmentally safe. Why do you think we don't make anything here anymore...labor costs and the EPA.
Anyway, I will leave the rest of this thread to its own devices. I feel like I am argueing with a wall. What is that definition of insanity? Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results...lol
I wonder if all the countries that recieve aid from the U.S. after a disaster say that the American influence on the world and consumption of its resources is an extreme waste. We give to damn near everyone and get shit on by the rest of the world. I guess if your mind has already been warped by propaganda your own country shoves down your thoat....not to mention it seems you take it all with a smile...you are accustomed to accepting people making decisions for you. I want to make my own decisions and live with whatever consequences those decisions come with.
As far as the global environment, don't you think you should look at other countries such as China or India for helping in large part now-a-days for environmental pollution. Hear in America we have taken a big hit financially in order to make things more environmentally safe. Why do you think we don't make anything here anymore...labor costs and the EPA.
Anyway, I will leave the rest of this thread to its own devices. I feel like I am argueing with a wall. What is that definition of insanity? Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results...lol
MoldyFrogToe
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are the fat kids gone yet?
the parody value was well worth the bump.......
Stoner Chick
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You couldn't bribe my kids with enough toys to eat fast food crap. You raise your kids with a proper diet and they won't ever touch that food and if they do their first words will be "gross".
^yes. my youngest little sister is like that. she wont touch that shit
An Update on an old thread.......
An Update on an old thread.......
certainly not worthy of a new thread of its own I'll refresh this one.
Bravo for McD's!!! Ronald rules.......
McDonald's toy sale skirts Happy Meal restrictions
(Reuters) - McDonald's Corp is skirting a new San Francisco law that aims to curb toy giveaways in sugar- and fat-laden restaurant meals for children by selling its popular Happy Meal toys for 10 cents each.
The law, which goes into effect on December 1, requires that restaurant kids' meals meet certain nutritional standards before they could be sold with free toys.
McDonald's and other major restaurant chains would have had to reduce sugar, fat and salt in their kids' meals, while adding fruits and vegetables, to comply with the law.
"Rather than fight city hall, I am complying with the letter of the law," said McDonald's franchisee Scott Rodrick, who owns just over half of the 19 McDonald's franchises in San Francisco.
Rodrick and other San Francisco franchisees -- with the company's blessing -- plan to charge 10 cents to add a toy to the company's popular Happy Meals for children. The toys are not offered for sale without the purchase of a Happy Meal, the company said.
Proceeds from the San Francisco toy sales will be used to help build a new Ronald McDonald House in the city. Those facilities, which are operated by a McDonald's charity, give free or low-cost housing to families seeking treatment for a sick child.
McDonald's was a pioneer in using free toys to promote kids' meals and its success spawned me-too offerings from other chains.
FROM 'MCDOODLER' TO SHREK
It debuted the Happy Meal in the United States in 1979 with toys like the "McDoodler" stencil and the "McWrist" wallet. Modern offerings have included themed items from popular films like "Shrek" or sought-after toys like Lego or Ty Beanie Babies.
San Francisco late last year became the first major U.S. city to take on the toy giveaways, following a similar move by nearby Santa Clara County.
Under pressure from San Francisco and other cities, McDonald's and other restaurant chains have taken small steps to improve the nutritional profile of their meals for children.
McDonald's is giving its Happy Meals a makeover -- reducing the french fry portion by more than half and adding apple slices. Those new Happy Meals already are sold in California and will be available in all the 14,000 U.S. McDonald's restaurants early next year.
But the new Happy Meal still doesn't meet San Francisco's nutritional guidelines, which were based on recommendations from the National Academies' Institute of Medicine.
San Francisco Supervisor Eric Mar, who sponsored the San Francisco ordinance, said he still sees the law as a victory -- despite the maneuver from McDonald's.
"Our little local law had a major impact on the whole fast-food industry," said Mar. "It's going to be slow, but at least we feel that we're moving them in the right direction."
Representatives from the Center for Science and the Public Interest and Corporate Accountability International were less charitable, calling the move by the world's largest fast-food chain "cynical."
Margo Wootan, director of nutrition policy at CSPI, said McDonald's response "clearly skirts the whole spirit of the law."
Wootan added that McDonald's has the creative muscle to come up with healthy alternatives that appeal to children.
"McDonald's knows how to make food fun," she said. "They just need to try to maker healthier food fun for kids -- use that marketing brilliance that they have to promote health instead of undermine it."
While cities and communities around the country have expressed interest in passing similar laws, McDonald's said it has no plans to challenge San Francisco's law.
"Certainly this is a smarter public relations move than a lawsuit," said Sara Deon, director of Corporate Accountability International's "Value the Meal" campaign.
as mentioned by me previously, if San Francisco wants to take the toys out of every cereal box & the 'Surprise Inside' from every Cracker Jack box then they'll be applying the law equally as it is meant to be, but I could NEVER support statutes or standards that allow our govt to pick the winners and losers as they see fit.......
An Update on an old thread.......
certainly not worthy of a new thread of its own I'll refresh this one.
Bravo for McD's!!! Ronald rules.......
McDonald's toy sale skirts Happy Meal restrictions
(Reuters) - McDonald's Corp is skirting a new San Francisco law that aims to curb toy giveaways in sugar- and fat-laden restaurant meals for children by selling its popular Happy Meal toys for 10 cents each.
The law, which goes into effect on December 1, requires that restaurant kids' meals meet certain nutritional standards before they could be sold with free toys.
McDonald's and other major restaurant chains would have had to reduce sugar, fat and salt in their kids' meals, while adding fruits and vegetables, to comply with the law.
"Rather than fight city hall, I am complying with the letter of the law," said McDonald's franchisee Scott Rodrick, who owns just over half of the 19 McDonald's franchises in San Francisco.
Rodrick and other San Francisco franchisees -- with the company's blessing -- plan to charge 10 cents to add a toy to the company's popular Happy Meals for children. The toys are not offered for sale without the purchase of a Happy Meal, the company said.
Proceeds from the San Francisco toy sales will be used to help build a new Ronald McDonald House in the city. Those facilities, which are operated by a McDonald's charity, give free or low-cost housing to families seeking treatment for a sick child.
McDonald's was a pioneer in using free toys to promote kids' meals and its success spawned me-too offerings from other chains.
FROM 'MCDOODLER' TO SHREK
It debuted the Happy Meal in the United States in 1979 with toys like the "McDoodler" stencil and the "McWrist" wallet. Modern offerings have included themed items from popular films like "Shrek" or sought-after toys like Lego or Ty Beanie Babies.
San Francisco late last year became the first major U.S. city to take on the toy giveaways, following a similar move by nearby Santa Clara County.
Under pressure from San Francisco and other cities, McDonald's and other restaurant chains have taken small steps to improve the nutritional profile of their meals for children.
McDonald's is giving its Happy Meals a makeover -- reducing the french fry portion by more than half and adding apple slices. Those new Happy Meals already are sold in California and will be available in all the 14,000 U.S. McDonald's restaurants early next year.
But the new Happy Meal still doesn't meet San Francisco's nutritional guidelines, which were based on recommendations from the National Academies' Institute of Medicine.
San Francisco Supervisor Eric Mar, who sponsored the San Francisco ordinance, said he still sees the law as a victory -- despite the maneuver from McDonald's.
"Our little local law had a major impact on the whole fast-food industry," said Mar. "It's going to be slow, but at least we feel that we're moving them in the right direction."
Representatives from the Center for Science and the Public Interest and Corporate Accountability International were less charitable, calling the move by the world's largest fast-food chain "cynical."
Margo Wootan, director of nutrition policy at CSPI, said McDonald's response "clearly skirts the whole spirit of the law."
Wootan added that McDonald's has the creative muscle to come up with healthy alternatives that appeal to children.
"McDonald's knows how to make food fun," she said. "They just need to try to maker healthier food fun for kids -- use that marketing brilliance that they have to promote health instead of undermine it."
While cities and communities around the country have expressed interest in passing similar laws, McDonald's said it has no plans to challenge San Francisco's law.
"Certainly this is a smarter public relations move than a lawsuit," said Sara Deon, director of Corporate Accountability International's "Value the Meal" campaign.
as mentioned by me previously, if San Francisco wants to take the toys out of every cereal box & the 'Surprise Inside' from every Cracker Jack box then they'll be applying the law equally as it is meant to be, but I could NEVER support statutes or standards that allow our govt to pick the winners and losers as they see fit.......
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lol
So many laws are so dumb. I'm really surprised at how many people here think that more laws are good or that this was a good thing. I guess I shouldn't be though.
"Yes! Please government, regulate our happy meals! NO! Don't regulate cannabis, I need to make money here!"
We need to teach our children to be critical thinkers; not that the government knows everything and we need to rely on them to help us make the right decisions. We need to show them what will make them healthy, what will make them sick, and what is to be enjoyed in moderation, not the government.
I'll bet they could have sold these toys for a penny and gotten away with it. Then we'd have to write a new law! -_-
So many laws are so dumb. I'm really surprised at how many people here think that more laws are good or that this was a good thing. I guess I shouldn't be though.
"Yes! Please government, regulate our happy meals! NO! Don't regulate cannabis, I need to make money here!"
We need to teach our children to be critical thinkers; not that the government knows everything and we need to rely on them to help us make the right decisions. We need to show them what will make them healthy, what will make them sick, and what is to be enjoyed in moderation, not the government.
I'll bet they could have sold these toys for a penny and gotten away with it. Then we'd have to write a new law! -_-
so now there is a black market for happy meals ??????
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Hoover_lungz
My friend was in NY for awhile with his 11yr son, he said to me that your MacDonalds meals are double the size of what we get in the UK and the toys you get in happy meals are proper good toys unlike the crap they give us in our happy meals.
If i lived in the States i would be a fat ****,, i love food
If i lived in the States i would be a fat ****,, i love food
