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Seeking Critique on Vert Colosseum SOG concept.

AOD2012

I have the key, now i need to find the lock..
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Anti, those are some incredible shots. Do you use a special program to crop those down, and get the real close up shots?


aod
 

Anti

Sorcerer's Apprentice
Veteran
Anti, those are some incredible shots. Do you use a special program to crop those down, and get the real close up shots?


aod


I use adobe photoshop.

The camera takes pictures at a resolution of 3648x2736 (which is about 9"x12" @ 300 dpi). I crop the pictures down to 800x600 to post them here.

So the pictures with the red box, that's the entire image I took with the camera after shrinking it down to 800x600. The macro pics are where I simply zoomed in to 100% resolution and then cropped an 800x600 segment out.

I added the box to the picture myself just to give you an idea.
 

prowler

Member
I used to resize my images to max 1000px but icmag resizes those to smaller so eventually i found out that if you resize images to max 999px icmag leaves them alone. So you can crop to 999px for max performance.

I have to flag for a software which is easy and light and handles cropping also:

Ifranview

Beats photoshop in simple image manipulation. I do have photoshop for additional editing but you really can't beat ifran when just cropping and resizing for icmag.

CTRL+Y = Crop to selection
CTRL+R = Resize
CTRL+S = Save and here you can uncheck keep original EXIF -data so all of the EXIF fields are simply deleted.

Super easy and fast.

EDIT: Looking good Anti - as always! Keep on rocking.
 

catman

half cat half man half baked
Veteran
I did experiment with cutting these pots down in my microcab. Let me show you some harvest shots to see why I will not be doing that:
It might be hard to tell the scale, but the cut down pots were about 4-5 inches SHORTER than the full-sized pots.
I really wish you'd try that experiment again. I once transplanted a root balls the size of around 2/3 a 16oz cup into the bottom of a full length containers to ones cut down to 8'' tall and there was no difference. I let them grow normally in various sized containers and there was no differences either aside that I had to water the smaller ones more. With as many numbers as ya have, can't hurt to play around again can it? Just be fair and don't treat the smaller containers like the larger ones when watering.

Don't forget to take some root pictures come harvest! Pretty please.

You aren't in your microlab anymore :] You'll improve at observing how the height of the bulb relative to the plants influences stretching when flowering and I'm going to just keep repeating myself that it might be worth your while to play around with limiting nitrogen in stretch. Many larger growers might disagree with this, but smaller plants like these are different. I sure think ya can get rock hard nugs from top to bottom with that AK strain after another run or two.
As far as the wire around the lights... I don't really think the plants could safely get much closer to the light as it is. The little "cages" i made around the lights are only maybe 6" cylinders. So even without the cages, the plants could get at most 3 inches closer but then they'd be touching the bare bulb.
You may considering doing the math of actually how much volume of space that 3 inches is especially considering your lighting wattage. They won't touch the bulbs. They will shrivel up before doing so. If ya see one sneaking too close, just tuck it back or trim that fan leaf off.

As stated before they do run cooler per se compared to the old MH bulbs I ran with krusty buckets that put off heat like a mofo , but EVERY Bro I talked to or read in threads about em , the biggest factor that was noticed was the elongated internode spacing and promoting stretch , so there`s your most probable reason for your taller skinnier lower plantlets Bro.....but.....
Much respect to you Fred as always, but I'm assuming you haven't done nearly as much researching into microgrows as you have everything else. You hit the nail on the head with many key elements that are the same regardless of plant scale, but I think people with good eyes tend to see things differently depending on the size of the plant. Somethings are easier to see when they are small and others big. I've more often than not read that people using say 400w CMH have more stretch, but maybe this is just because the plants aren't placed close enough to make up for less intensity. Maybe the spectrum really has something to do with it too, but I've read hundreds of grows with CFL light bulbs with all light spectrum and I've seen some of the best grows pulled of with lights bluer than CMH. I've also seen people with 250w and 400w CMH show pictures showing tighter internode spacing in flower with CMH and this could be true as well as we know bluer spectrums do the same in veg.

I notice a lot of my pictures aren't as focused as they could be.
Pics look pretty damn great to me. The plants as well! I could be wrong here, but looks like they got at least one more spurt of bud swelling to go yet.

Did ya have your fans running when you took the pictures? I'm no camera buff, but I think I get better focused shots when I take them in complete darkness. Just have to lessen the exposure to prevent so much of that flash getting reflected back if your using flash for macros.

Also, I think max image size here is 1024x768.
 

Anti

Sorcerer's Apprentice
Veteran
*** UPDATE WITH PICS (WEEK 9 OF FLOWER!) ***

*** UPDATE WITH PICS (WEEK 9 OF FLOWER!) ***

WEEK IX

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^^^ Obligatory Full Shot ^^^

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^^^ Front Center Looking Left ^^^

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^^^ Front Center Looking Right ^^^

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^^^ Peering Over The Rows ^^^

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^^^ A Close Up ^^^

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^^^ Under The Disco Influence ^^^

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^^^ Top Tier Plant #1 ^^^

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^^^ Top Tier Plant #1 Close Up ^^^

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^^^ Top Tier Plant #2 (no flash) ^^^

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^^^ Top Tier Plant #2 (with flash) ^^^

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^^^ Top Tier Plant #2 Close Up ^^^

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^^^ Top Tier Plant #3 ^^^

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^^^ Top Tier Plant #3 Close Up (no flash) ^^^

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^^^ Top Tier Plant #3 Close Up (with flash) ^^^

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^^^ Top Tier Plant #4 ^^^

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^^^ Bottom Tier Plant #1 (no flash) ^^^

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^^^ Bottom Tier Plant #1 Close Up ^^^

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^^^ Bottom Tier Plant #1 Even Closer^^^

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^^^ Bottom Tier Plant #2 ^^^

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^^^ Bottom Tier Plant #2 Cola ^^^

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^^^ Bottom Tier Plant #2 Close Up ^^^

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^^^ Bottom Tier Plant #3 ^^^

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^^^ Bottom Tier Plant #3 Cola ^^^

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^^^ Bottom Tier Plant #3 Macro ^^^


Notes:

  • The strain "officially" finishes at 65 days and I typically find that to be right on.
  • I will be checking trichs carefully and pull when they look ready.
  • Day 65 will be this coming saturday (Dec 3rd) but depending on the trichs, I may wait til sunday or longer.
  • I built a DIY light box to take the individual pictures in. I did it on a $5 budget, so I can only fit one plant at a time in there at a time. As I get better at lighting it, I should get progressively better shots.
  • I can only post 25 pictures per post, so I had to eliminate some pictures from the update that exist in the album.
 
G

greenmatter

looking great man! gonna be some sticky fiskars this weekend

WTF is a light box , and how do you build one for $5 ? i can't get a decent picture no matter what i do.
 

Anti

Sorcerer's Apprentice
Veteran
WTF is a light box , and how do you build one for $5 ? i can't get a decent picture no matter what i do.


Ok. Whenever you see a product that is perfectly photographed they probably used a light box. You can get really fancy with it but I'm broke so I do it ghetto-fabulous instead.

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I just stuck a pepsi can in mine and took a couple of shots for you...

Step one, cut holes in a cardboard box.

Step two, cover those holes with parchment paper or tissue paper. This will diffuse light.

Step three, put a background in that curves at the bottom in a gradual 90 degree angle. This way the background is uninterrupted. (Mine has a line that I have to fix in photoshop because I couldn't get a large enough piece of cardstock at walmart so I used two.)

Put lights above and around. Experiment with light placement to find a style you like.

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GP73LPC

Strain Collector/Seed Junkie/Landrace Accumulator/
Veteran
hell yeah, thanks for the tutorial Anti...

thats killer :tiphat:
 

AlexTrebek

Member
I feel foolish for ever doubting a grow with a disco ball deflector.
Awesome scaled build, concept to completion to harvest.
Gratz on great thread and nice photobox build
OCD and proud.

Grow on Anti!
:tiphat:
 

~Shhh~

JETS
Veteran
Looking very good Anti, I'm still puttin my money where my mouth is and saying over gpw there... I thought a couple buds were looking like they were finished or very near to in the teaser pics from yesterday... These set look like they could go to 65-70 days on some...

Do you ever start to pull fan leaves just before they finish? I usually strip down anything without thc on while they are still standing makes the trim far quicker doing the fans over the next few days.

Lookin forward to the harvest, bud shots and weigh in ;) Great work mate, part duex should be a cracker!!
 

b00m

~No Guts~ ~No Glory~
Mentor
Veteran
Sick skills and mad growing bruz :good:
Been watching from the start but just had to say something ;)
Awesome job and thanks for raising the bar again :D
:smoke out:
 

silouan

New member
inspiration, total inspiration. thanks anti. i found you because i was tracking using tree pots to fit a huge number of plants into a small space. it does not look like it, but do you foresee any problems with the vegetation becoming too thick and chocking out the other plants. i plan to fit about 100 into a 4 x 4. any thoughts, ideas? i grow the same way - once rooted i flower - single terminal cola coming in at .5 to full zip per.
 
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