no, you don't know what you're trying to say as evidenced by your silly attacks on my plants. you don't know what my medium is, what my cab is like, how big my plants are how old they are or what was going on in the pictures. all you know is im talking about miracle gro and i posted some pictures. didn't even bother to read what i wrote when i posted the pictures to explain what is going on in the pictures. just flipped off your little organics handle and started talking crazy shit.
fine, here you go.
3 clones all flowered at the same time. 2 are in GH chemical bullshit ferts and the other one is in organics.
ill let you figure out which one is which.
p.s. its this one
i didn't come here to bash organics but if you insist on talking retarded...
fine, here you go.
3 clones all flowered at the same time. 2 are in GH chemical bullshit ferts and the other one is in organics.
ill let you figure out which one is which.
p.s. its this one
i didn't come here to bash organics but if you insist on talking retarded...
greenpinky
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I read everything I need to know about u and I was not even talking about these pics. Ur grow in hydro I was tlking about the thread u had that no one even wanted to post to...... u cant even say anything with ur juice bottles, even the newiest grower know that roots don't like light. So that said spend some money and buy some real pots. Try growing right then get back to us. Peace
rofl , even the noobiest noob follows everyone's hearsay and goes along blindly such as you with your organics religion.
i use clear pots because it obviously doesn't have any effect on the outcome. how is light gonna effect roots that are buried under dirt ? also there are 3 plants in clear pots, yet only 1 looks ill. explain? oh yeah you can't.
i did hydro one time and got a lot of bad advice. whoopteefuckingdoo. when you come with some actual facts and relevancy ill be here. you think i make threads because i need people to post in them? look at the views, i really only document my grows to help other people and keep a log. not to show off or brag which must be the reason you're here.
anyway whenever you want to argue old wives tales let me know, till then ill be off doing science.
i use clear pots because it obviously doesn't have any effect on the outcome. how is light gonna effect roots that are buried under dirt ? also there are 3 plants in clear pots, yet only 1 looks ill. explain? oh yeah you can't.
i did hydro one time and got a lot of bad advice. whoopteefuckingdoo. when you come with some actual facts and relevancy ill be here. you think i make threads because i need people to post in them? look at the views, i really only document my grows to help other people and keep a log. not to show off or brag which must be the reason you're here.
anyway whenever you want to argue old wives tales let me know, till then ill be off doing science.
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greenpinky
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lol no ones bragging, ive never even posted pic's cuz im afraid of what people think.. sorry if i came across like a dick but im just trying to help just like you are... ive learnd so much off of hear,,,,, all the plants in those pots look like shit,they only have one leaf, except the "organic" one has reg leaf.. those small pots dont let the plant grow pluse the roots wont grow along the sides of the pot.cuz of the light...thus making for a smaller plant.. the plant will only get as big as its roots are... they all look over fertalized too... keep doing experments your on the right path. cant wait to hear back
once again, wrong wrong and wrooooong.
they have single leaves because they are clones from flowering plants, thats how they look, i can show you one i just took a picture of yesterday.
small pots allow the roots to grow just fine. roots branch off just like the leaves and stems above the soil. only with roots any restrictions causes more branches to form and thus thicker roots. when the roots get to the edge of the soil in my pot the reach air and the tip dies off. which forces the rest of it to make branches which also grow to the edge, get pruned and branch again.
the light has 0 effect on the roots since as i just mentioned they die when they are exposed to air and branch. light energy penetrates everything anyway including soil, nothing has more energy than the sun, yet everything outside grows just fine.
i don't need the roots to grow along the side of the pot. what is that going to do? i need the roots to grow inside the soil and take up nutes not sitting on the edge of the pot being useless.
yes container size has some effect on plant height. sativas dig their roots deep because they grow tall, indicas spread their roots wider since they stay short and bush out. i use small pots to keep my plants small since i grow in a micro cab with barely 16 inches of height. im sorry i can't use a 200 gallon smartpot in my 2 sqft cabinet and please you.
the plants are fertilized just fine, i will continue doing experiments. i like to have actual knowledge and not just memorize what other people say.
have a good day sir.
they have single leaves because they are clones from flowering plants, thats how they look, i can show you one i just took a picture of yesterday.
small pots allow the roots to grow just fine. roots branch off just like the leaves and stems above the soil. only with roots any restrictions causes more branches to form and thus thicker roots. when the roots get to the edge of the soil in my pot the reach air and the tip dies off. which forces the rest of it to make branches which also grow to the edge, get pruned and branch again.
the light has 0 effect on the roots since as i just mentioned they die when they are exposed to air and branch. light energy penetrates everything anyway including soil, nothing has more energy than the sun, yet everything outside grows just fine.
i don't need the roots to grow along the side of the pot. what is that going to do? i need the roots to grow inside the soil and take up nutes not sitting on the edge of the pot being useless.
yes container size has some effect on plant height. sativas dig their roots deep because they grow tall, indicas spread their roots wider since they stay short and bush out. i use small pots to keep my plants small since i grow in a micro cab with barely 16 inches of height. im sorry i can't use a 200 gallon smartpot in my 2 sqft cabinet and please you.
the plants are fertilized just fine, i will continue doing experiments. i like to have actual knowledge and not just memorize what other people say.
have a good day sir.
organics kick ass over chems. i have also mixed chems and organics with great results. pure chems gives a substandard product. and for hwat its worth. clear containers never gave me any issues compared to regular light tight ones. most of our light comes from directly above and due to canopy and closely packed containers the plants dont seem to care one bit. out doors might be different. grow however with whatever makes you weiner wiggle.
greenpinky
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your excatally right, u dont need a lot of roots if ur using chemicals.. cuz ur giving them all they need while watering.and restricting the space makes a thicker but tiny plant.. but the organic one needs the space to get the stuff it needs out of the soil.. that why i think its smaller. but u dont have the space so stick with the chemicals... and why do u piss on ur plants?
organic nitrogen, you dont? organics doesn't need a lot of space to get the nutrients out of the soil.
Ok boys, lets agree to disagree. No more fighting and name calling please 
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stihgnobevoli--so you think your roots are "air pruned" when they hit the clear container? I don't think it's air pruning really since a clear pot gets just as much air as a black pot would, and black pots do have a large portion of roots just swirling around the bottoms and sides inside the pots, but clearly the clear ones do not...i'm guessing that means the light is doing the pruning then, and not the air?
i'm not arguing with you, i have always believed there is nothing wrong with clear pots, i used to use 2 liter soda bottles back in the day and had no issues at all, but it makes me wonder...if clear pots have the ability to prune roots to keep them in the dirt and not on the bottom and sides...does that mean they might have some of the supposed benefits of those air pots?
i'm not arguing with you, i have always believed there is nothing wrong with clear pots, i used to use 2 liter soda bottles back in the day and had no issues at all, but it makes me wonder...if clear pots have the ability to prune roots to keep them in the dirt and not on the bottom and sides...does that mean they might have some of the supposed benefits of those air pots?
jeez we still on this shit? its air pruned because there is a 1/2 inch gap between the soil and the wall of my pots that develop over time as the soil is colonized by roots and drawn tighter. you can't see my pots and plants, i can. trust me when i say what i say. i have a ton of posts and karma, all positive. you don't get this much positive karma with this many posts from just spouting bullshit.
it has nothing to do with the fact that the pots are clear but rather the fact that my pots are recycled juice bottles with irregular measurements that makes it hard for the soil mix to fill in all the spaces.
it has nothing to do with the fact that the pots are clear but rather the fact that my pots are recycled juice bottles with irregular measurements that makes it hard for the soil mix to fill in all the spaces.
lol jeez sorry dude, was just curious...i guess it did kinda come off aggressive, sorry
sorry if i came off a bit harsh. its like fighting an uphill battle with people who are so set in their...other peoples ways that anything they see different HAS to be wrong.
the bottom line for me is that miracle gro is not a co to be be supporting whether their product is actually organic or not
they have long been purveyors of products which poison your local environment so just because they try to latch onto a marketing opportunity doesnt make them better now
it has nothing to do w/ the base elements are base elements argument
when chem nutes are used they are used in wasteful proportions which leach out of the pots/ground where they are applied and build up / plus, the salts build up and render potting mixes un-usable for recycling meaning you continually buy to support your grow
=wasteful/not sutainable
if MG potting soil is organic it should be fine to recycle it but if there's little pellets in there as time release ferts they are likely based on salt ferts and its just a marketing trick ~IDK but that doesnt sound organic - though im sure it works to grow a plant
they have long been purveyors of products which poison your local environment so just because they try to latch onto a marketing opportunity doesnt make them better now
it has nothing to do w/ the base elements are base elements argument
when chem nutes are used they are used in wasteful proportions which leach out of the pots/ground where they are applied and build up / plus, the salts build up and render potting mixes un-usable for recycling meaning you continually buy to support your grow
=wasteful/not sutainable
if MG potting soil is organic it should be fine to recycle it but if there's little pellets in there as time release ferts they are likely based on salt ferts and its just a marketing trick ~IDK but that doesnt sound organic - though im sure it works to grow a plant
