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Kush Drop going off the shells.

Midnight

Member
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No need to ruin your whole business over this. Just spell it out to your customers like you did in your original post. You'd be surprised how many people will buy your gear because you were honest about it upfront. Caveat Emptor.
 

MOneYMiKe

Patriot Father 2a Defender /Breeder
Veteran
if anything, lower the prices a little and forewarn everybody.
seeing your stellar cross outcomes won't deter too many folks.

if you are that hard up, i'm sure the FAM would be more than happy to kick you some greenbacks for all the free seeds you've blessed us with.
1 hand always washes the other :D

sharing is caring and we never forget !!!

very true.......keep your head up broseph......:comfort:..
 

dansbuds

Retired from the workforce Bullshit
ICMag Donor
Veteran
You know , I have to say , Karma .... i've never really checked out your genetics too much ( just starting to buy seeds ) . but after reading your thread here & the heart felt loss that you feel cuz your genetics weren't up to YOUR standards , Well that just put you on top of the list with me & probably many others here . Its fantstic to see somebody willing to ditch it all & take the loss rather than sell what he believes to be inferior products . Bravo dude . I hope everything works out for you & I will be looking at & buying some of your seeds . I've had hermies on strains before (my fault , heat stress ) but hell i just collected the seeds & will probably run them sooner or later . why not ???

good luck & good Karma to ya Brother .:good::good:
good people are hard to find now days !!!
 

brotherindica

Kronically Ill
Veteran
Hello fine ICmaggers

I am sorry to say i have to pull back the whole Kush drop.

You all know i dont relase without testing, i did a test myself no problems there, and there is a few online test going on differnt strains from the new release.

White OG V2.0 seems oke (differnty male)

Biker Kush

Ghost rider

Beelze bubba (just got a herm report in this morning.)

Mahayana (got a herm repot in few days ago.)


i sended them out and the shit storm started, I have put all my last cash in this, and this may be the end of karma genetics seed company, i am proberly not going to be able to pay the next coming months bill's. This release was going to be the start of things.


I am a bit flabbergasted as i didn't expect any of this, never got a herm in the parrents, I got a other male ready i am going to try, but not shure if i can make it back in the game. and got enouf money to do this.

the White OG V2.0 is good to go, havent seen a problem with them. it is also a differnt male (triple kush)

Just to be clear there is no problem with the White OG V2.0.

I am thinking of letting the batch go on sale with a warning.

I first have to ask if Seedbay is willing to do that.

I am remaking them for shure, i just made new cuts and a differnt male, as many say its also the genetics, and maybe also grow factor's. There where more clean results with out any herm reports.

Its only one grow beelze bubba, and one mahayana, from the ghostrider and biker no herm have been reported and more have been grown out.

So yeah i might have jumped the gun litle and let emotiens get the best of me this morning.

But those of you that know me now i wanne do it right.


Karma, please read my post.


I'm one of the Beelze Bubba testers who experienced a few male flowers. I posted a response in my tester thread, but had to post it here too.


Here is the whole tester thread: https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=218438

WHAT? WHATT?? WHATTT??? WHATTTT?????




KARMA,


PLEASE take a deep breath and relax!!!!!



I am 1 tester, who popped 10 seeds. Out of 6 females, only 3 showed issues and they're MINOR.

It's very possible and very likely I'm the cause for this intersex issue


It's very hard to say at this point what is the cause of the stress causing this brief issue. It's not temperature stress, steady max temp of 75-77F/low temp of 70F. I don't believe it's light stress, but perhaps there is a light leak I'm unaware of. I don't believe it's nutrient/pH stress, but perhaps there was a pH swing I missed. After the grow is finished I'll have a better chance to check for light leaks. I'm human like the rest of us and could have unknowingly made a mistake I never noticed.



My whole point being, issues from 1 tester is no reason to pull a release!!


Please take a look @ #6 Beelze Bubba again.


I still have all 6 plants running, haven't seen another sighting of a single male flower in 3 days. They're putting out great resin and starting to bulk up nicely. I'm still very serious saying #6 is looking like my stunner of all 9 plants I have going, 3 being 2 other strains.


I'll gladly buy 1 of everything @ release, including a Beelze Bubba. This is a great hybrid to pheno hunt.



Have a smoke, think about it again, then let us know how you feel. I think you have some gems people would LOVE to get their hands on........
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40AmpstoFreedom

Well-known member
ICMag Donor
Veteran
I wouldn't cut the cost yet I wish you would pop packs asap on your own and if you get 100% female then do the drop as normal... Can you delay it? I really don't think there is a damn thing wrong with the beans...First thing I thought when I saw the hermie thread was something was wrong cuz they all herm'd and herm'd enough to trash! Just screams grow room problem...Especially with Melting's AMAZING looking plants...I completely wrote off the other thread no offense to the maker, but sometimes shit goes wrong and I really don't think it is the genes, would much rather see your hard work gets full value and tested again even if doing it on your own to verify....

Hope you can wait for the money and hope you take your time with it :2cents:
 

krunchbubble

Dear Haters, I Have So Much More For You To Be Mad
Veteran
i dont give a shit if there is a report here and there about herms. THE TEST GROWER MAY HAVE BEEN AT FAULT!!

anything from Karma genetics is GOLD in my opinion and i would buy any seed from them in a heart beat.....

amazing that you care so much about your customers!!

a few little reports about herms and your willing to scrap the whole project? FUCK THAT!!

at LEAST you said something!! a herm prone strain is still sold to the masses to this day by another breeder who was mentioned earlier....
 

sso

Active member
Veteran
my exneighbor gave me some clones

both hermied alot for him, the other just was nothing but seeds.

for me, both strains hermie bit, i get 1 seed every other bud (thick big, dense resinous buds. so its worth it, fantastic smell and smokes like candy (looks like it too)

the neighbor was a newb, maybe 2 grows in, i myself have much to learn and am only 5 years in :)

probably those strains wouldnt hermy at all with a more experienced grower.

i wouldnt give up on a line, just because a few people had hermies (particularily if i never got any myself)

why not just list how your own grow goes? to help people out with creating the right environment?
 

brotherindica

Kronically Ill
Veteran
I wouldn't cut the cost yet I wish you would pop packs asap on your own and if you get 100% female then do the drop as normal... Can you delay it? I really don't think there is a damn thing wrong with the beans...First thing I thought when I saw the hermie thread was something was wrong cuz they all herm'd and herm'd enough to trash! Just screams grow room problem...Especially with Melting's AMAZING looking plants...I completely wrote off the other thread no offense to the maker, but sometimes shit goes wrong and I really don't think it is the genes, would much rather see your hard work gets full value and tested again even if doing it on your own to verify....

Hope you can wait for the money and hope you take your time with it :2cents:

i dont give a shit if there is a report here and there about herms. THE TEST GROWER MAY HAVE BEEN AT FAULT!!

anything from Karma genetics is GOLD in my opinion and i would buy any seed from them in a heart beat.....

amazing that you care so much about your customers!!

a few little reports about herms and your willing to scrap the whole project? FUCK THAT!!

at LEAST you said something!! a herm prone strain is still sold to the masses to this day by another breeder who was mentioned earlier....


Guys......please read my post above yours.



For the record, none of the balls/male flowers shown by me true hermi's. These are stress induced male flowers.......single/couple @ the base of a node.....NOT mixed in with flowers......only on lower portions of the plant........only a few.


Like I said before, I plan on keeping all cuts going and actually re-running #6 Beelze Bubba rather soon. Stress, genetic maturity (if you believe in that argument), something caused this issue. I'm willing to bet a 2nd run produces nothing but more dank without a single male flower.



Stress related.......just what that stress is however, is yet to be determined.
 

krunchbubble

Dear Haters, I Have So Much More For You To Be Mad
Veteran
Guys......please read my post above yours.



For the record, none of the balls/male flowers shown by me true hermi's. These are stress induced male flowers.......single/couple @ the base of a node.....NOT mixed in with flowers......only on lower portions of the plant........only a few.


Like I said before, I plan on keeping all cuts going and actually re-running #6 Beelze Bubba rather soon. Stress, genetic maturity (if you believe in that argument), something caused this issue. I'm willing to bet a 2nd run produces nothing but more dank without a single male flower.



Stress related.......just what that stress is however, is yet to be determined.

nice kat to say that! +karma....
 

brotherindica

Kronically Ill
Veteran
nice kat to say that! +karma....


Thanks Krunch, :tiphat:


May should cliche, but Cannabis is too important to me for bullshit.


We all unfortunately have to wear masks, lie, and deal with bullshit in real life............it shouldn't have to happen here.





Karma may have initially gotten a little too worried, but I believe good Karma will be coming back to him very shortly. You do honest, kind things Karma........it's too rarely seen these days.

Bring forth the drop!!
 

Hammerhead

Disabled Farmer
ICMag Donor
Veteran
I agree test the plants that are in question yourself. I dont see an issue at all. Drop all the others as planed. You have only 2 reports and one was a environmental issue..

I still get Nanners from Rez gear sometimes. Your letting your emotions get the better of you. My WOG V2 test is stellar could not have been any better and I stressed this girl with a 600hps bulb being dropped on her burning a leaf..

If I can help in anyway let me know...
 

vStagger Leev

Cannaseur
Veteran
i dont give a shit if there is a report here and there about herms. THE TEST GROWER MAY HAVE BEEN AT FAULT!!

anything from Karma genetics is GOLD in my opinion and i would buy any seed from them in a heart beat.....

amazing that you care so much about your customers!!

a few little reports about herms and your willing to scrap the whole project? FUCK THAT!!

at LEAST you said something!! a herm prone strain is still sold to the masses to this day by another breeder who was mentioned earlier....


You are right ;) It could have been my fault entirely, though if it was my Diesel Wreck would have thrown up nanners immediately. Either way these genetics seem epic in everway, I hope these small hiccups doesnt stop the drop from happening. Much love karma.
 

eyes

Active member
Veteran
I wouldnt throw in the towel because a few people on the test runs had hermies.You cant be there with them to certify the environment so its not a scientific test.besides,these are plants and there not perfect. not every f-1 i popped over time was completely uniform.
ive also encountered hermies with an environment fluctuations.

If you have that much time invested,id go forward knowing that enough people here have confidence in your gear to make the purchase.Besides your family counting on ya,it seems you have too much money and time to bail at this point.
 
M

mosca negra

Brother Karma, we got your back here at ICM! What goes around comes around. I'm here to help bro. You're doing some Epic work for our Community and everyone knows it.

RESPECT!

Mosca
 
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