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bobman

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Maybe being in the perlite is making them worse. Just read something that they do eat roots fine hairs. I think this is what they are. I have them in 2 different stages on the potato. I will do more research. Thanks man.
 

bobman

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Ptsssss..... Thrips...

I was thinking maybe that but it seems like the adults are only 1 mm long. The larva of these things inch around like a combination worm and snake. I have no other flying insects and the leafs are fine. In fact the 4 week room looks too green.
 

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THRIPS - these pests are often talked about but seldom seen because of their very small size and the fact that they spend a lot of time concealed between leaves and in flowers. Not all thrips are bad. There are beneficial thrips which prey on other pests. Some thrips eat fungi. Even some plant feeding thrips can be useful at times, consuming spider mite eggs in their immature stage as illustrated in the accompanying image. Daylily thrips, Frankliniella hemerocallis, is one of several types of thrips to have been reported on daylilies. Thrips are usually yellow, orange, dark brown or black. Young thrips are most often whitish or yellow but quite similar otherwise to the adults, although adults may have wings. Thrips are less than an eighth of an inch in length, usually much smaller, and there can be many generations in a year. Damage to the leaves results in light colored patches or streaking, often with blackish thrips droppings in the vicinity. Flower bud damage causes streaks, distortion and bud drop, and scapes may develop corky lesions several inches in length. Daylily cultivars vary in their susceptibility to thrips damage. Problems tend to increase in dry weather and also where plants have been heavily fertilized with nitrogen. Keeping plants adequately watered and encouraging beneficial insects should limit thrips population levels. Insecticidal soap can reduce their numbers but may not reach those hidden deeply between the leaves.
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Symptoms: Plant injury is caused by both nymphs and adults rasping the bud, flower and leaf tissues of the host plants, and then sucking the exuding sap. This causes distorted and discolored flowers or buds and gray or silvery, speckled areas on the leaves.
 
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bobman

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I have not seen any of any leaves but i will check. Man these things are small. They are some sort of metallic color. When they turn the light reflects of of them. Would thrips just stay in media?
 

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Dude the first time I got some plants with thrips in em I literally went and had my eyes checked. I thought I was seeing shit!

They hop and skip around so fast in the juvenile stages and when they get big enough to fly, they are there and then they aren't.

When I had em, it was kinda trippy for awhile cause I wasn't sure that my eyes weren't playing tricks with my brain. Because of the bright lights on and fans moving everything around. I was pretty new at growing and we didn't have the internet back then to search and ask other growers like we do now. We had to read thru all the books until we found something that "sounder right" and go from there.
 

bobman

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I will do some more reading on thrips but I am really leaning towards springtails. Seems like a hempy bucket is an ideal environment for them and then can to damage. So did thrips do damage to the root zone from your experience? I will check leaves again I should find some there correct?
 

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The lil ones live off of sap they suck from the roots.

If you kill em before they become airborne it is way easier to kill em. Once they are airborne then they start slaughtering the plants tops. They make tiny slits and lay their eggs in them, when the eggs hatch most of drop into the medium and feed on roots.

But the Neem oil would eliminate springtails as well.

Oh wait! I thought about it but didn't suggest spraying with Neem and adding 4tsp per gallon to your water rez and flush the pots. But anyway... If you wait too long they will be airborne and you'll need to bomb and sterilize the room.
 

bobman

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Once I treat these fuckers is there anything to help revitalize my root zone like h2o2 or something with zyme. I am very uneducated to the use of these products.
 

bobman

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well i gave the veg room a dose of bayer complete. my plants are in 1 gallon nursery pots full of perlte. i filled a tote then added food and then 20ml of complete per gallon. I submerged each pot in the tote for about a minute or two then poured some more on top of the media. I then placed the pots inside of 3 gallon buckets to contain runoff and not make a mess. Does anybody know how long this stuff takes to work. this was 12 hours ago and the white flies are not dead yet. the other bugs did come to the surface when I submerged the pot, though not in the numbers I was expecting. I still have no clue what these fuckers are. Adults are metallic greyish whiteish, they have 3-4 legs on each side and they jump like feas.
 

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Tom 'Green' Thumb
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I had something like you describe, and I have never noticed any change in yield so left them. Lol, must have grown for a year just ignoring them. I wouldn't suggest that, but they didn't seem to hinder the plants in anyway. This was when I first started growing and using Promix as the medium. I would place my finger on the top of the soil and they would jump and spring all over the room, kind of cool looking. Try neem like suggested earlier.

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Graham Purwatt

i had tiny little black crawlers in my perlite and flys that looked similar to fungus gnats.my plants were acting like they were developing a nute def.i doused my hempys with the bayer complete, watered in at 3/4 a tbsp per gallon of un ph ed water,no nutes.i let them sit for 5 days with it so the roots would soak it up and added a hotshot no pest strip.the next day all the fliers were dead on the floor and within 10 days my plants started looking better. it screwed my yield for that run but since then things are back to normal for me. haven't seen any bugs since then. i hope you get them bobman, pests suck but the bayer complete should do it for you
 
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