Butane honey oil for dummies

[Gray Wolf]

You have got to be kidding me right??? Butane has an odor now? Last I checked butane was an orderless solvent.

Why not admit there are mercaptans in all butane that is not labeled mercaptan free?

I am not going debate that butane smells and tastes like light petroleum. It is a point of fact that only someone grossly ignorant on the subject would question.

Since you have such keen taste and smell that you can detect mercaps in low parts per billionth, where neither I or any of the test panel members can, I am blown away that you can't smell butane

Perhaps after more experience you will awaken and admit that you are misguided?

 

[jump117]

I used jumps tek

What kind of razors do you use to scrape?

I use a traditional double-edged razor blade, with its typical recognizable shape (click)

 

[QTS]

I've found a dab of isopropyl takes the machine oil right off the razor blades, first thing I do before scraping.

 

[Tokingham]

I am not going debate that butane smells and tastes like light petroleum. It is a point of fact that only someone grossly ignorant on the subject would question.

Since you have such keen taste and smell that you can detect mercaps in low parts per billionth, where neither I or any of the test panel members can, I am blown away that you can't smell butane

Perhaps after more experience you will awaken and admit that you are misguided?

Could you please not be so sensitive?

FACT: Butane has no smell or color.

I do not care if you disagree, it is a fact buddy.

When I smell butane it is from something they add for smell. end of story.

Read more carefully and you will see that I think it could be the razors I use cause they have been grease before packaged.

 

[Trichgnomes]

Let's close the book of nonsense, shall we?

Let's close the book of nonsense, shall we?

Could you please not be so sensitive?

FACT: Butane has no smell or color.

I do not care if you disagree, it is a fact buddy.

When I smell butane it is from something they add for smell. end of story.

Read more carefully and you will see that I think it could be the razors I use cause they have been grease before packaged.

Dear Tokingham,

Let's take a stroll down ol memory lane. It's wasn't too long ago, but in this day and age of blazing fast technology, the 17th of September seems like times of lore.

You were going on about how you talked to someone from Airgas, and yadda yadda yadda. Anyhow, allow me to fresh your memory:

I was talking to a guy over the phone at air gas supply. he said you have to specifically order mercapatan free butane or propane otherwise they have mercaptans, cannot remember if he said it was law or not. But that means all store bought butane or propane. These chems are hazards and could harm people if they cannot smell them. I read about kids blowing themselves up in an apartment using butane so my guess is that's why it would be required, not everyone is smart enough to handle it.

Call an air-gas supplier and ask about mercaptan free gasses.

Take into consideration the country that the butane cans are made vs the USA in regulations.

There, now that I have you up to speed, I can continue. For someone that went through all the trouble of calling Airgas on the phone, did you ever bother to pull up their MSDS report for N-Butane? Well I'm gonna go out on a limb here, and assume you did not. Here's a link for those too lazy to google http://www.airgas.com/documents/pdf/001007.pdf

Aww, hell, I'll just paste the pertinent excerpt right here for those too lazy to click the link:

Material Safety Data Sheet
N-Butane
: N-Butane
: AIRGAS INC., on behalf of its subsidiaries 259 North Radnor-Chester Road Suite 100 Radnor, PA 19087-5283
1-610-687-5253
: Synthetic/Analytical chemistry.
: n-Butane; Diethyl; Freon 600; Liquefied petroleum gas; LPG; n-C4H10; Butanen; Butani; Methylethylmethane; UN 1011; UN 1075; A-17; Bu-Gas.
: 001007 : 11/10/2010.
: 1-866-734-3438
: Gas. [COLORLESS LIQUEFIED COMPRESS GAS WITH GASOLINE-LIKE ODOR.] : W ARNING!
FLAMMABLE GAS. MAY CAUSE FLASH FIRE. MAY CAUSE TARGET ORGAN DAMAGE, BASED ON ANIMAL DATA. CONTENTS UNDER PRESSURE.

I took the liberty of marking in bold the information in conflict, which hopefully will end this nonsense of you arguing against fact.

If you are right, than so are the folks that say global warming is a myth, and water hash is purer than well made BHO.

Lastly I italicized the word 'colorless'. I believe therein lies the confusion. Possible it is that you confused color with odor?

 

[Tokingham]

Dear Tokingham,

Let's take a stroll down ol memory lane. It's wasn't too long ago, but in this day and age of blazing fast technology, the 17th of September seems like times of lore.

You were going on about how you talked to someone from Airgas, and yadda yadda yadda. Anyhow, allow me to fresh your memory:



There, now that I have you up to speed, I can continue. For someone that went through all the trouble of calling Airgas on the phone, did you ever bother to pull up their MSDS report for N-Butane? Well I'm gonna go out on a limb here, and assume you did not. Here's a link for those too lazy to google http://www.airgas.com/documents/pdf/001007.pdf

Aww, hell, I'll just paste the pertinent excerpt right here for those too lazy to click the link:



I took the liberty of marking in bold the information in conflict, which hopefully will end this nonsense of you arguing against fact.

If you are right, than so are the folks that say global warming is a myth, and water hash is purer than well made BHO.

Lastly I italicized the word 'colorless'. I believe therein lies the confusion. Possible it is that you confused color with odor?

Nope look here
http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q...8fLSHf&sig=AHIEtbSi3LBSR8SAN-70DAsdhfQV0BjdPw

What you pulled up was a sheet air gas. You have to ask specifically for the mercaptan free butane otherwise they have em.

Just how it is son.

 

[Hammerhead]

depends on where you look.. Some say odorless some don't
http://encyclopedia.airliquide.com/Encyclopedia.asp?GasID=8

Major hazard : Fire
Toxicity (Am. Conf. Of Gov. Ind. Hygienists ACGIH 2000 Edition) : 800 ppm
Flammability limits in air (STP conditions) : 1.5-8.5 vol%
Odour : Faintly Disagreeable
UN Number : UN1011
EINECS Number : 203-448-7
DOT Label (USA) : FG
DOT Hazard class (USA) : Flammable Gas


wso.generalair.com/MSDS/SP1011.pdf

Form : Gas.
Color : Colorless.
Odor : Unpleasant odor.
Molecular weight : 58.12
Vapor pressure : 1557 mmHg @ 20 C
Vapor density : 2.1 (air = 1)
Specific gravity : 0.5788 @ 0 C (water = 1)
Boiling point : 30 F (-1 C)
Freezing point : -216 F (-138 C)
Water solubility : 15%



www.bocsds.com/uk/sds/special/butane_n.pdf

Odour Sweetish
Poor warning properties at low concentrations.
Stenchant often added
Flammability range 1,5-8,5 vol% in air.
Autoignition temperature 365 °C
Other data Gas/vapour heavier than air. May accumulate in confined spaces, particularly at or below​

ground level.

 

[Tokingham]

Well if you get the info of a distributors butane then yes it smells because the selling agents were added to their product.

MY INFORMATION comes from:
Occupational Safety and Health Guidelines for n-Butane

MY INFORMATION is BY:
US department of health and human services AND
US department of labor

Notice my info is not from a company selling a product with the smelling agents added by manufacturers of the pure gasses?

Below is the information about a distributors product, not a pure gas.

depends on where you look.. Some say odorless some don't
http://encyclopedia.airliquide.com/Encyclopedia.asp?GasID=8

Major hazard : Fire
Toxicity (Am. Conf. Of Gov. Ind. Hygienists ACGIH 2000 Edition) : 800 ppm
Flammability limits in air (STP conditions) : 1.5-8.5 vol%
Odour : Faintly Disagreeable
UN Number : UN1011
EINECS Number : 203-448-7
DOT Label (USA) : FG
DOT Hazard class (USA) : Flammable Gas


wso.generalair.com/MSDS/SP1011.pdf

Form : Gas.
Color : Colorless.
Odor : Unpleasant odor.
Molecular weight : 58.12
Vapor pressure : 1557 mmHg @ 20 C
Vapor density : 2.1 (air = 1)
Specific gravity : 0.5788 @ 0 C (water = 1)
Boiling point : 30 F (-1 C)
Freezing point : -216 F (-138 C)
Water solubility : 15%



www.bocsds.com/uk/sds/special/butane_n.pdf

Odour Sweetish
Poor warning properties at low concentrations.
Stenchant often added
Flammability range 1,5-8,5 vol% in air.
Autoignition temperature 365 °C
Other data Gas/vapour heavier than air. May accumulate in confined spaces, particularly at or below​

ground level.

honestly I would expect more research and less of a jaded opinion from a respected member of a forum.......but I am starting to think that is not how forums work.

 

[Hammerhead]

Post a manufacture thats sales pure butane then we can look at there MSDS. I see many that list it as oderless but can you buy it.

 

[Tokingham]

Post a manufacture thats sales pure butane then we can look at there MSDS. I see many that list it as oderless but can you buy it.

LMFAO!!! You just cannot admit you are wrong!

I really trust what you say now....lol yeah right.

 

[Hammerhead]

??? I think you have me confused with someone else. Can you answer my question ?? I will say im wrong what im I wrong about??

If it makes evveryone agree to dissagree then im wrong is that better

 

[Tokingham]

??? I think you have me confused with someone else. Can you answer my question ?? I will say im wrong what im I wrong about??

If it makes evveryone agree to dissagree then im wrong is that better

I am meaning the people on this board with tons of posts that take turns arguing a point they know is incorrect. I quoted you because you were the last of the 'yes men' posts.

My info was enough to prove my point if you read it closer you will understand. If you still do not get it then I cannot help you cause you are not willing to listen.

 

[Hammerhead]

I was the last yes men ?? your stoned my friend. If you cant give me a manufacture that sales Pure butane wtf are you arguing about. I would love to find a source of pure butane. Im done moving on

 

[Tokingham]

I was the last yes men ?? your stoned my friend. If you cant give me a manufacture that sales Pure butane wtf are you arguing about. I would love to find a source of pure butane. Im done moving on

You wont unless you are a distributor or buy mercaptan free from airgass supply.

A manufacturer will not sell n-butane to an individual.

 

[pineolene]

You wont unless you are a distributor or buy mercaptan free from airgass supply.

A manufacturer will not sell n-butane to an individual.

Which bring us back to my joke about the airgas guy asking what kind of welder requires mercap free n-butane. badumtssss.

Sheesh, everyone posting up different product descriptions, yeah, there are many n-butane products from several sources.

Those cans are mixed gases, propane is usually in the mix and is an inferior solvent for cannabinoids, compared to n-butane. And the cans mostly come from Korea iirc. When its all said and done these cans are not made for use as a solvent, especially to make something that is smoked or otherwise ingested. And their purity is totally self reported, or not reported at all (ie 4X 5X ect). True medical grade solvents are hard to acquire, or impossible. It is what it is. We can all be honest about it and seek to improve everyone's tane.

 

[Tokingham]

Safety tip of the day:

Dry ice kief first, then run your tane. less tane means less chance of boooom!

 

[Hammerhead]

Just get a commercial licenses or what ever you need to buy the pure tane and put it in cans and sale it. What has no one done this. To expensive?? 6 cans cost 39$ what would 6 can of pure run 80$. If it's so much safer I would think someone would be doing this. If I had the money I would look into it.


Im not concered about BOOM. I would like my tane as pur as possable. If you make BHO inside anywhere your a dimwit. Unless you have a fume hood

 

[Tokingham]

Just get a commercial licenses or what ever you need to buy the pure tane and put it in cans and sale it. What has no one done this. To expensive?? 6 cans cost 39$ what would 6 can of pure run 80$. If it's so much safer I would think someone would be doing this. If I had the money I would look into it.

How about you give that a try then tell us how you failed afterwards. I love how you make it sound easy then say 'but I can't because of money" I call bullshit, you cannot because ....well you can't. Otherwise a lot of other people would already be selling the pure. Not every person can get a license to fill and distribute canisters of explosive gasses.

 

[TickleMyBalls]

so i talked ssomeone pretty well known in the industry today and he informed me who this pineolene character is. If you all knew who it is you'd have even less respect for him. 50% of you would probably rrecognize his name..

Keep yourself busy with your California Hype machine and get out of our bho thread. I can't believe someone in your position wastes time trolling in threads on the Internet. Oh wait you're the ice wax king self proclaimed, so of course you're gonna slander all other forms of extracts.

 

[Gray Wolf]

Could you please not be so sensitive?

FACT: Butane has no smell or color.

I do not care if you disagree, it is a fact buddy.

When I smell butane it is from something they add for smell. end of story.

Read more carefully and you will see that I think it could be the razors I use cause they have been grease before packaged.

Let those with ears hear!

PS: I hope that you haven't missed the part about only someone without personal experience or ability to tell the odor of gasoline from mercaps would make such a statement. What impression do you imagine you are leaving with us folks with years of hands on experience?

Here is The Airgas MSDS for 100% reagent and food grade Butane......................

Material Safety Data Sheet
Product name
AIRGAS INC., on behalf of its subsidiaries
259 North Radnor-Chester Road
Suite 100
Radnor, PA 19087-5283
1-610-687-5253
Product use
MSDS #
Date of
Preparation/Revision
In case of emergency
Section 1. Chemical product and company identification
N-Butane
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Supplier
1-866-734-3438
Synonym : n-Butane; Diethyl; Freon 600; Liquefied petroleum gas; LPG; n-C4H10; Butanen;
Butani; Methylethylmethane; UN 1011; UN 1075; A-17; Bu-Gas.
:
:
Inhalation
Emergency overview
Section 2. Hazards identification
Routes of entry
Potential acute health effects
Acts as a simple asphyxiant.
Contact with rapidly expanding gas may cause burns or frostbite.
Ingestion is not a normal route of exposure for gases
Contact with rapidly expanding gas may cause burns or frostbite.
Eyes
Skin
Inhalation
Ingestion
Physical state Gas. [COLORLESS LIQUEFIED COMPRESS GAS WITH GASOLINE-LIKE ODOR.]
See toxicological information (section 11)
WARNING!
FLAMMABLE GAS.
MAY CAUSE FLASH FIRE.
MAY CAUSE TARGET ORGAN DAMAGE, BASED ON ANIMAL DATA.
CONTENTS UNDER PRESSURE.
Keep away from heat, sparks and flame. Do not puncture or incinerate container. May
cause target organ damage, based on animal data. Use only with adequate ventilation.
Keep container closed.
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CARCINOGENIC EFFECTS: Not available.
MUTAGENIC EFFECTS: Not available.
TERATOGENIC EFFECTS: Not available.
Medical conditions
aggravated by overexposure
Pre-existing disorders involving any target organs mentioned in this MSDS as being at