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Hashmasta-Kut

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a you bit on an inside joke between ice water hash makers, its okay. I've added some much needed info to this thread.

I have bit on nothing, again. i was just saying, go away, you are not wanted here. go back to your hash threads.

as for much needed info, you have added nothing. and i dont see anyone here applauding you for your useless redundant input.
 

Hashmasta-Kut

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This is not a ca thread. Im sure most of the people that live in Ca know that already. cannabis is illegal in more places then its legal im sure you know that. So now everyone is awhare of CA law and that tane in a can is not perfect was other usefull facts do you have to add here.

i heard about the CA laws on oil like a year ago, as most people paying attention prolly did. as for tane quality, we have been going over this for years, and why stick your nose in business you arent involved in anyway?(not directed at you, hammerhead)
 
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pineolene

This is not a ca thread. Im sure most of the people that live in Ca know that already. cannabis is illegal in more places then its legal im sure you know that. So now everyone is awhare of CA law and that tane in a can is not perfect was other usefull facts do you have to add here.

Well, I already brought up the reduced RH levels coming with winter soon, this increases static and the risk of pan fires.

iirc we GW and I were discussing the merits of putting a small piece of dry ice in the pyrex pan, which adds CO2 to the local environment while blasting occurs. This will decrease the chance of pan fires from static electricity. Continuing on this theme, grounding the tube is another simple and intelligent step to reduce the risk of pan flashes. Also ground yourself, ie barefoot backyard blasting. Has grounding been brought up yet? I learned this one way back in college. How about RH and it's affects on static electricity as it relates to pan flash fires? Is that somewhere in the first 80 pages? This is all crucial (yet missing) info for "dummies". Maybe my delivery needs work... fair enough. Then again, the only personal attacks here are directed towards me, Dr Asshat Q Retardenstein. ;) (yeah, I went back to using my families original jewish name when I became a doctor).

GW asked if I had actually tried the "dry ice in the pan" method, speculating that this would make it hard for evap to occur. Yeah, I'm not admitting to anything, I never touch solvents, really I swear (more like plead the fif). My solvent guru taught me this. He uses a very small piece, and replaces it as it sublimes away. Just enough to add CO2 right around the pan. You (GW) are correct that chilling the fresh blasted 'tane is not a good idea. Dry ice in the pan is just for while blasting is occurring, not evap, or vac/purge, or whatever your doing to get the gases out. Have you tried this GW?

ps. I swear, I actually got some work done today haha. Picture attached is sour diesel, ice water extracted wax. Not bho but dabs is dabs.
 

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Gray Wolf

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Well, I already brought up the reduced RH levels coming with winter soon, this increases static and the risk of pan fires.

iirc we GW and I were discussing the merits of putting a small piece of dry ice in the pyrex pan, which adds CO2 to the local environment while blasting occurs. This will decrease the chance of pan fires from static electricity. Continuing on this theme, grounding the tube is another simple and intelligent step to reduce the risk of pan flashes. Also ground yourself, ie barefoot backyard blasting. Has grounding been brought up yet? I learned this one way back in college. How about RH and it's affects on static electricity as it relates to pan flash fires? Is that somewhere in the first 80 pages? This is all crucial (yet missing) info for "dummies". Maybe my delivery needs work... fair enough. Then again, the only personal attacks here are directed towards me, Dr Asshat Q Retardenstein. ;) (yeah, I went back to using my families original jewish name when I became a doctor).

GW asked if I had actually tried the "dry ice in the pan" method, speculating that this would make it hard for evap to occur. Yeah, I'm not admitting to anything, I never touch solvents, really I swear (more like plead the fif). My solvent guru taught me this. He uses a very small piece, and replaces it as it sublimes away. Just enough to add CO2 right around the pan. You (GW) are correct that chilling the fresh blasted 'tane is not a good idea. Dry ice in the pan is just for while blasting is occurring, not evap, or vac/purge, or whatever your doing to get the gases out. Have you tried this GW?

ps. I swear, I actually got some work done today haha. Picture attached is sour diesel, ice water extracted wax. Not bho but dabs is dabs.

Brother PL, I would encourage you to actually read the thread, so that you are aware that you aren't adding the new revelations that you believe you are or profess to.

Given your missing the mirror test in the first post, clearly you either have not, or we are back to the reading comprehension issue again.

No I haven't tried the chunk of dry ice in the butane for the reasons that I gave. You picked up on the issue surrounding evaporation, but seem to have missed what I said about the CO2 not sticking around to blanket anything, if you are properly ventilating your BHO extraction.

The latter is not a casual issue and pretty much makes the idea the sort of thing that only someone who didn't have a real clue would come up with. While it sounds brilliant on the surface, it is really simple minded given the actual conditions.

I didn't say that the first round, because I try to be nurturing, and encourage thinking outside the box. Clearly I was too subtle and I hope that this was more clear.

Pineolene, you insult the folks on the oil thread, you post redundant information and information that is ill thought out, and you ask us to respect you and your input. What can I say little brother, other than you are going at it all wrong, unless your goal is public debasement and humilliation?

That is not a statement about you brother, but your actions, which you have the power to change!
 

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A few more BHO pictures...
 

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what testing labs? What do the oleaginous waxes look like?

The outside testing labs that certify all ISO 9000 manufacturers.

Oleaginous waxes look like paraffin, which is what they are.
 

Tokingham

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The outside testing labs that certify all ISO 9000 manufacturers.

Oleaginous waxes look like paraffin, which is what they are.

Please show the test results. Why are the Oleaginous waxes not listed on the MSDS sheets?

I also know if the mercaptans are a
impurity of the butane they do not need to be listed on MSDS sheets as well.
 
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pineolene

Brother PL, I would encourage you to actually read the thread, so that you are aware that you aren't adding the new revelations that you believe you are or profess to.

Given your missing the mirror test in the first post, clearly you either have not, or we are back to the reading comprehension issue again.

No I haven't tried the chunk of dry ice in the butane for the reasons that I gave. You picked up on the issue surrounding evaporation, but seem to have missed what I said about the CO2 not sticking around to blanket anything, if you are properly ventilating your BHO extraction.

The latter is not a casual issue and pretty much makes the idea the sort of thing that only someone who didn't have a real clue would come up with. While it sounds brilliant on the surface, it is really simple minded given the actual conditions.

I didn't say that the first round, because I try to be nurturing, and encourage thinking outside the box. Clearly I was too subtle and I hope that this was more clear.

Pineolene, you insult the folks on the oil thread, you post redundant information and information that is ill thought out, and you ask us to respect you and your input. What can I say little brother, other than you are going at it all wrong, unless your goal is public debasement and humilliation?

That is not a statement about you brother, but your actions, which you have the power to change!

I still, without reading the entire thread, would bet I've added some safety tips here. I don't care about how I look, if I prevent a single bhotard incident it will all be worth it. And rehashing (haha get it!) safety tips is as important as posting finished product pics... which add very little information yet are aesthetically pleasing. I did see your can grounded... very nice. Did you notice the mirror test question I recieved? Seemed proper to bring that back into the conversation. There are still more follow up questions regarding whats in the can directed toward you, I hope to read a response as well.

Obviously you and hmk don't need these tips, but this thread isn't really for either of you now is it? y'all are not dummies. The personal insults towards myself were a little over the top, but I understand that hmk got embarrassed because I had to take him to school over CA legal issues. I did not intend to bring all that here, but the members have shown they appreciate the information so its proper imo. No hard feelings hmk, I'm still a big fan of your work.

And all the "yes" on helpful marks I've received? Maybe what you find annoying is actually helping "bho dummies"... after all that is who this thread is for. Your pics are beautiful sir, but tips for noobs also include ideas like: a small piece of dry ice in the pan (this is for outside blasting without fans), or grounding the tube and yourself during blasting, or just watching and realizing how RH affects static and the risk of pan fires.

In reality, without the insults, legal misinfo from the peanut gallery, and me having to defend myself, this thread would have been on topic all along.
 
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Pineolene....you admitted up the page that you had never even tried this dry ice technique, yet again you stress how important it is for noobs to know about it? I call that bad info...conjecture.
 

Hammerhead

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most dont read a long thread like this you obviously did not as well. All the info is here if they take the time to read it. Most find it easier to ask the question and not go look for it in the thread.
 
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pineolene

Pineolene....you admitted up the page that you had never even tried this dry ice technique, yet again you stress how important it is for noobs to know about it? I call that bad info...conjecture.

when i say I don't blast 'tane that is a legal disclaimer, just like everything i grow is actually tomatoes. you missed the joke. bad info, come on bro it is simple middle school science fair type stuff. CO2 suppresses fire...
just youtube "plead the fif". plead the fif.

we really need a sarcasm font. from the video: i have a secret document I'd like you all to see... "fif"
 

IMO

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Well, I already brought up the reduced RH levels coming with winter soon, this increases static and the risk of pan fires.

iirc we GW and I were discussing the merits of putting a small piece of dry ice in the pyrex pan, which adds CO2 to the local environment while blasting occurs. This will decrease the chance of pan fires from static electricity. Continuing on this theme, grounding the tube is another simple and intelligent step to reduce the risk of pan flashes. Also ground yourself, ie barefoot backyard blasting. Has grounding been brought up yet? I learned this one way back in college. How about RH and it's affects on static electricity as it relates to pan flash fires? Is that somewhere in the first 80 pages? This is all crucial (yet missing) info for "dummies". Maybe my delivery needs work... fair enough. Then again, the only personal attacks here are directed towards me, Dr Asshat Q Retardenstein. ;) (yeah, I went back to using my families original jewish name when I became a doctor).

GW asked if I had actually tried the "dry ice in the pan" method, speculating that this would make it hard for evap to occur. Yeah, I'm not admitting to anything, I never touch solvents, really I swear (more like plead the fif). My solvent guru taught me this. He uses a very small piece, and replaces it as it sublimes away. Just enough to add CO2 right around the pan. You (GW) are correct that chilling the fresh blasted 'tane is not a good idea. Dry ice in the pan is just for while blasting is occurring, not evap, or vac/purge, or whatever your doing to get the gases out. Have you tried this GW?

ps. I swear, I actually got some work done today haha. Picture attached is sour diesel, ice water extracted wax. Not bho but dabs is dabs.


thought you were up on the bay area dispensary scene... dontcha know thats the secret behind "co2" extracts ;]

edit: just watched that episode, fucking hilarious. FiF!
 
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pineolene

thought you were up on the bay area dispensary scene... dontcha know thats the secret behind "co2" extracts ;]

edit: just watched that episode, fucking hilarious. FiF!

lol, yeah the CO2s. I've recently tried some Nitrogen gas (N2) gas extract, I almost coughed myself to death. Around here we take a dab of bho, coat that with ice wax, put a drop of distillation extracted essential oil on that, and that goes on the giant nail. Don't try this at home kids. :)

LOL all these questions about my personal life and actions. The answer is FIF!
 
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juicepuddle

anyone even responding needs to just shut up, be the bigger man and just shut up damn

everything ALWAYS boils down to your OPINION just stop this constant bitching, your all looking like fools
 

Tokingham

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I used jumps tek and this is the result. I only scrapped a little off the plate. There is more but I had to taste test it. I found it to still have the awful after taste.

What kind of razors do you use to scrape? Mine smell like shit from the lube that they came in and I am wondering if that may effect the taste.

I also wanted to mention that I DO SMELL AN ODOR TO VECTOR BUTANE. If butane is orderless, then what causes the smell?

hdshatter.jpg


hdshatter2.jpg
 

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I used jumps tek and this is the result. I only scrapped a little off the plate. There is more but I had to taste test it. I found it to still have the awful after taste.

What kind of razors do you use to scrape? Mine smell like shit from the lube that they came in and I am wondering if that may effect the taste.

I also wanted to mention that I DO SMELL AN ODOR TO VECTOR BUTANE. so what is it if butane is orderless?

hdshatter.jpg


hdshatter2.jpg

Butane is not odorless? It smells and tastes like petroleum when not fully purged.
 

LoSwaga

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I used jumps tek and this is the result. I only scrapped a little off the plate. There is more but I had to taste test it. I found it to still have the awful after taste.

What kind of razors do you use to scrape? Mine smell like shit from the lube that they came in and I am wondering if that may effect the taste.

I also wanted to mention that I DO SMELL AN ODOR TO VECTOR BUTANE. If butane is orderless, then what causes the smell?

hdshatter.jpg


hdshatter2.jpg

Not 100% sure what Vector uses, but most (all?) butane manufacturers add an additional compound to give the gas a smell. Same with natural gas/propane AFAIK, just a safety measure in the event of a leak.

nice looking oil, by the way :tiphat: could always do another hot water purge with it or even a vac purge if you know anybody with a setup, might help ya out. Failing that, maybe dissolve the BHO in another solvent and purge it again? Maybe qwiso with 99%?
 

Tokingham

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Butane is not odorless? It smells and tastes like petroleum when not fully purged.

You have got to be kidding me right??? Butane has an odor now? Last I checked butane was an orderless solvent.

Why not admit there are mercaptans in all butane that is not labeled mercaptan free?

***I am trying to get razors without the grease on them that I washed off. they stink even after washed so maybe they cause they shitty flavor.
 
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