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Botanist compiling ‘genetic fingerprint’​of marijuana to establish database to track

http://middletownpress.com/articles/2011/09/26/news/doc4e809d4648b98640306196.txt?viewmode=2


WEST HAVEN — Law enforcement officials who have obtained a suspect’s DNA can input the evidence into a national database and potentially learn the criminal’s identity.

Soon, they will be able to do the same with marijuana evidence. An online listing of marijuana seizures will help police determine the drug’s path from overseas growth to local street crime.

University of New Haven professor and forensic botanist Heather Miller Coyle has for three years taken the “genetic fingerprint” from various strains of marijuana. That evidence is now being compiled in a national marijuana database that will allow law enforcement to track specific strands of the drug.

Coyle, an associate professor at UNH’s Henry C Lee College of Criminal Justice and Forensic Sciences, with her team conducts her work in an objective setting, so she isn’t privy to what exactly law enforcement agencies are doing with her findings. However, she’s “quite sure (they are) using it for investigative leads,” she said.

“It basically connects (the drugs) in space and time by the genetics, so we can get an idea from (the sample) of whether it came from a cartel in Mexico, or if it came from Europe, or if it was from inside the United States,” she said.



Officials from the National Parks Service and the national Bureau of Land Management are particularly interested in the work because they are interested in tracking and eliminating marijuana grown in wooded expanses of state and federal property, she said.

Coyle’s project has been funded with more than $100,000 from the National Marijuana Initiative and the National High Intensity Drug Trafficking Area Program, according to university officials.

Marijuana has long been analyzed to determine its makeup, but her work helps elevate the information police officials are able to extract for it.

“We’d like to see plants get a step up and be more like hair (evidence),” Coyle said


Coyle developed a method of analysis that requires only the drug by smeared on an evidence card — a practice that prevents the university from having to store large quantities of marijuana, she said. From that smear, Coyle and the students she works with extract a portion of the plant’s DNA for analysis.

Recently, she and forensic science student Ashley Hertzman discussed a seized shipment of marijuana seeds a law enforcement agency recently sent for their work. Some of the seeds are labeled from known providers in Europe, where marijuana is legal, while other seeds are not.

The genetic properties of those seeds can be compared with the street-sold drugs, and all of that information compiled the database Hertzman is creating with the help of the university’s Institute for the Study of Violent Groups as part of her honors thesis.

The work, Coyle said, will allow law enforcement to use marijuana evidence to find breaches in national security through determining where the plant’s seeds entered the country.

Hertzman, who began her work with Coyle Friday, will be studying the “White Widow” strain of marijuana and using the database to track its distribution.

“I’m excited to get started and see what I can find out,” said Hertzman, a senior from Long Island, N.Y. “It’s definitely interesting. When I tell my family and friends what I’m doing, once they get past the shock of, ‘You’re looking at pot?’ they get excited about what the implications could be.
 

DiscoBiscuit

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Thanks for the article, good read. Dumb idea. How long has the global trade of seed been hapnin, 20 years?

Well damn, this strain traces to Spain.:yoinks: Must be an international conspiracy.

Maybe Wikileaks will leak the database so we may use it to our advantage.
 

kamyo

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It'll be funny when they conclude, "Of 15 samples of White Widow, there seemed to be 10 distinctly different genetic fingerprints. This begs the question: 'Who has the real White Widow?'"
 

MIway

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Thanks for the article, good read. Dumb idea. How long has the global trade of seed been hapnin, 20 years?

Well damn, this strain traces to Spain.:yoinks: Must be an international conspiracy.

Maybe Wikileaks will leak the database so we may use it to our advantage.


the concern might be about a sample they know to a specific area... say a 'sanctioned' producer... and it's found somewhere other than registered. might be a few spots out there that can start worrying. and even if an underground grower get's snagged... up the count for interstate as they found it where ever. this would seem a bigger concern than the onstar thing...?
 

BattleAxe

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Sounds like another example of fearmongering by the powers that be. So they are breaking down the 'DNA' of a plant. That alone doesn't necessarily tell it's exact origins. I would think that they would actually need a 'smear' of the parents for that.
 

DiscoBiscuit

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the concern might be about a sample they know to a specific area... say a 'sanctioned' producer... and it's found somewhere other than registered. might be a few spots out there that can start worrying. and even if an underground grower get's snagged... up the count for interstate as they found it where ever. this would seem a bigger concern than the onstar thing...?

Could be. They always break out the big guns for terrorism and national security... then use it on weed growers. Probably a way to up the conspiracy element. That charge is as bad or worse than illegal guns etc. They can confiscate more assets with conspiracy charges in the mix.
 
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Iron_Lion

Thanks for the article, good read. Dumb idea.

Dumb idea indeed, you'd think with all of the research she has done she'd know that there is as many varieties of MJ as there are people on the earth and what is in the the US is also in the EU, vice versa.

It's nice to know that with such a high poverty rate somebody can still scratch up enough cash to waste on shit like this.
 

supermanlives

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i have some really old stock . good luck tracing it.i have also combined so many genes it would be way confusing to try and track shit
 

Weird

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for one they could potentially use it to implicate many people for the same crime or substantiate the scope of ones distribution for greater charges
 

SOTF420

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So what happens if you grow some seeds from Mexican bag weed?

And then they find it out in the woods and all of the sudden it's from a Mexican cartel now?

Fucking retarded.
 

MadBuddhaAbuser

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http://middletownpress.com/articles/2011/09/26/news/doc4e809d4648b98640306196.txt?viewmode=2


WEST HAVEN — Law enforcement officials who have obtained a suspect’s DNA can input the evidence into a national database and potentially learn the criminal’s identity.

Soon, they will be able to do the same with marijuana evidence. An online listing of marijuana seizures will help police determine the drug’s path from overseas growth to local street crime.

University of New Haven professor and forensic botanist Heather Miller Coyle has for three years taken the “genetic fingerprint” from various strains of marijuana. That evidence is now being compiled in a national marijuana database that will allow law enforcement to track specific strands of the drug.

Coyle, an associate professor at UNH’s Henry C Lee College of Criminal Justice and Forensic Sciences, with her team conducts her work in an objective setting, so she isn’t privy to what exactly law enforcement agencies are doing with her findings. However, she’s “quite sure (they are) using it for investigative leads,” she said.

“It basically connects (the drugs) in space and time by the genetics, so we can get an idea from (the sample) of whether it came from a cartel in Mexico, or if it came from Europe, or if it was from inside the United States,” she said.



Officials from the National Parks Service and the national Bureau of Land Management are particularly interested in the work because they are interested in tracking and eliminating marijuana grown in wooded expanses of state and federal property, she said.

Coyle’s project has been funded with more than $100,000 from the National Marijuana Initiative and the National High Intensity Drug Trafficking Area Program, according to university officials.

Marijuana has long been analyzed to determine its makeup, but her work helps elevate the information police officials are able to extract for it.

“We’d like to see plants get a step up and be more like hair (evidence),” Coyle said


Coyle developed a method of analysis that requires only the drug by smeared on an evidence card — a practice that prevents the university from having to store large quantities of marijuana, she said. From that smear, Coyle and the students she works with extract a portion of the plant’s DNA for analysis.

Recently, she and forensic science student Ashley Hertzman discussed a seized shipment of marijuana seeds a law enforcement agency recently sent for their work. Some of the seeds are labeled from known providers in Europe, where marijuana is legal, while other seeds are not.

The genetic properties of those seeds can be compared with the street-sold drugs, and all of that information compiled the database Hertzman is creating with the help of the university’s Institute for the Study of Violent Groups as part of her honors thesis.

The work, Coyle said, will allow law enforcement to use marijuana evidence to find breaches in national security through determining where the plant’s seeds entered the country.

Hertzman, who began her work with Coyle Friday, will be studying the “White Widow” strain of marijuana and using the database to track its distribution.

“I’m excited to get started and see what I can find out,” said Hertzman, a senior from Long Island, N.Y. “It’s definitely interesting. When I tell my family and friends what I’m doing, once they get past the shock of, ‘You’re looking at pot?’ they get excited about what the implications could be.

So I wonder if they bought from seedbay? We may be our own undoing.

for one they could potentially use it to implicate many people for the same crime or substantiate the scope of ones distribution for greater charges

This may seem "dumb" on the face of it, but I think weird is right on here. There are many types of extended "networking" charges that will come up from this.

But on a positive note, maybe we can send in our samples to end all debate on "who has the real deal (strain name)?" Threads around here.
 

trichrider

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i can see them using it to confirm that pot grown for a dispensary was produced by that dispensary (per CO.'s 70/30).
would make it very difficult to lose your overages.
 

GET MO

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.... and what will they do when they figure it out? detective: "Ha! I knew it! Soouur Diesel..."

Shit WE cant even figure out where some of these genetics came from... I wonder if the boys will be able to tell us if chem d REALLY came from a dude at a greatful dead concert....
 

DiscoBiscuit

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Aside from conspiracy, one grower could specialize with one strain for years. Continuing criminal enterprise, aka RICO anyone?
 

gingerale

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So I wonder if they bought from seedbay? We may be our own undoing.

No. This is nothing, and will affect nobody...except the stupid...i.e. the ones stupid enough to buy the bullshit lies that will be now used in interrogation rooms..."yeah we got the DNA signature from your pot, we know it's you who's been selling all through this neighborhood"...etc.

The same DNA technology that is being used to attack us will soon be used to de-facto undo Prohibition, even if we somehow aren't able to do so through legislation. I don't think a lot of people realize the full scope of implications of advancements that are being made in genetics (and all related fields) these days. We are 5-10 years away, at the very most, from somebody successfully transplanting the complete cannabinoid biosynthesis pathway from cannabis to some other common plant.

The technology is available to do it TODAY, but not the knowledge of how genetics work that would allow a researcher to easily and quickly isolate the proper gene sequences. It would just take some trial and error to figure this out and isolate the necessary genes. Someone is probably working on it even as we speak. Rest assured, barring global nuclear war or the destruction of mankind through some genetically engineered virus, we will figure out how to do this soon...and much more. All it takes is one smart guy to release a strain of Kentucky Bluegrass that produces THC, or a tomato, then the cat's out of the bag and will never go back in.

There are really good times, but also scary times ahead.
 
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