Does stress cause hermies?????

[lost in a sea]

the answer is definitely yes imo,, if the mechanics involved with the metabolic processes cant operate due to many different factors then genes hidden away will quite often make the plant herm,,, this breakdown is stress on the DNA,, and its how many hermaphroditic genes operate in plants, like a "sneaky male" gene that can be selected away from,,,

so the cause of the hermaphroditism is stress,,,,, whether its from too higher soil/water ph or too lower ph, fluctuating temps or just really high temps, extreme humidity, stressful changes in lighting hours and even old bulbs, also the death of large amounts of roots due to many things including overwatering or infestations,,,, ive had clones hermie on me at different times over the years from all these things..

you shouldnt really be asking this if you had any right to call yourself a "mentor",,

 

[Hammerhead]

you sure have a big chip on your shoulder when you dont get the answers your expecting. If you want people here to help you step back and knock that chip off your shoulder. The answer your going to get from me is yes I have had plants that herm after the first harvest do to stress. Now what you going to tell me that did not happen.

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

You or dag can add information about your mother plants.....


What you think isnt all that important in this thread.....


Thats not what Im doing.....Im absolutley not interested in opinion.....


What I want to know is how many plants you can document had no male flowers in the first cycle but went hermie after some months or years...


thats it.....

You've got it all wrong. Not your ideas but the way you develop them. You've given us a very basic description of your problem yet discount basic remedies or basic knowledge of. Whether one has isolated a given circumstance doesn't entitle one to discount what one can't prove.

Scientists don't 'think' something is right and ask other scientists to back em up. The scientific method consists of disclosing your entire hypotheses. Others whom specialize in areas you don't will either support or discount your conclusions.

Of course, if you're not a scientist you could always act like a non-scientific grower and rely on comradery to compare your experiences and opinions with others'.

I'm not surprised you argued in another forum, you're a bit belligerent here.

The answer to your repeat question (are there threads that think like me) is no.

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

... By the way .....I very rarely have my ass handed to me.....

Can you slap it with both hands?

 

[Budley Doright]

in '00 i had a clone only stella blue's clones herm out due to light poison in her 9th 0r 10th gen of cuttings(digital timer failure)

in '05 i had several strains(nycd4,stella and derailed blues) all herm out before they died after 3 weeks w/o power after katrina..

your lack of experience with the subject at hand...

i have grown several hundred plant grows and can tell you with certainty.

cannabis (like most deciduous annuals) has the ability to produce opposite sex flowers as a response to stresses in an attempt to propagate.

Thats just a silly thing to say..... most deciduous annuals arent monoecious...


Having the power go out for 3 weeks isnt a normal grow situation.....


The other example is only marginal because it sounds like you left the light on for a number of days.....


again not a normal grow situation.......


Your examples are extreme stress.... and as such may not be the best examples.....

 

[dagnabit]

i think a poll on the question would have been more telling...

BR
is this a hypothetical or are you having herm issues?

maybe the Cannabis Botany and Advanced Growing Science section would yield the type of conversation the subject deserves...

there are guys in there with advance knowledge of the chromosomal structures and whatnot..

entire discussions on the cannabis genome and genetic markers and their expression in filial vs clone plants.

 

[Budley Doright]

If you are familiar with overgrow....


I didnt give myself the title.....


the other mentors and mods gave it to me.....


If some of you have had hermies like this.....


Id be interested in a thread from anyone who says as much.......


It would be an interesting thread.....


why wouldnt there be one?????

 

[Hammerhead]

there perfect examples. Hermie trait can express depending on stress level. Many breeders will do stress test to check for this trait. Some take very little some take more.

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

Sounds to me like you want a process you're not willing to do yourself. 'Normal' is relative and wouldn't fly in any conclusions you attempt to make.

Rather than dis posts with personal associations, bypass until you get information that supports your assumptions. Then you won't have a thread full of you bickering with responses.

 

[dagnabit]

Thats just a silly thing to say..... most deciduous annuals arent monoecious...

nor is cannabis

Having the power go out for 3 weeks isnt a normal grow situation.....


The other example is only marginal because it sounds like you left the light on for a number of days.....


again not a normal grow situation.......


Your examples are extreme stress.... and as such may not be the best examples.....

soooo
add the context to the question..

"does a limited amount of stress cause hermis?"

 

[Budley Doright]

the answer is definitely yes imo,, if the mechanics involved with the metabolic processes cant operate due to many different factors then genes hidden away will quite often make the plant herm,,, this breakdown is stress on the DNA,, and its how many hermaphroditic genes operate in plants, like a "sneaky male" gene that can be selected away from,,,

so the cause of the hermaphroditism is stress,,,,, whether its from too higher soil/water ph or too lower ph, fluctuating temps or just really high temps, extreme humidity, stressful changes in lighting hours and even old bulbs, also the death of large amounts of roots due to many things including overwatering or infestations,,,, ive had clones hermie on me at different times over the years from all these things..

you shouldnt really be asking this if you had any right to call yourself a "mentor",,

so the cause of the hermaphroditism is stress,,,,, whether its from too higher soil/water ph or too lower ph, fluctuating temps or just really high temps, extreme humidity, stressful changes in lighting hours and even old bulbs, also the death of large amounts of roots due to many things including overwatering or infestations,,,, ive had clones hermie on me at different times over the years from all these things..



On overgrow I worked for more than 2 years as sick plant mentor.....


there is no way you can prove that.....its silly......

 

[forty]

Does stress cause hermies????

does eating too many twikies make you fat????

 

[dagnabit]

does eating too many twikies make you fat????

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

I didnt give myself the title.....


the other mentors and mods gave it to me.....

What, burnt?

...there is no way you can prove that.....its silly......

You've proven nothing here other than you're antisocial. You know what that means? If you likey you're sociopathic.

 

[Budley Doright]

I dont care much because I know these sites are boys clubs......pals ...you know.....


There is one type of experience which I would take as pretty good proof......


Thats a sea of green that has some hermies only..... grown from a mother plant.....


Thats about as good as it would getl.....

 

[Hammerhead]

thats completly false see my tag DGS is a female lol

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

Hey, you're using his sense of logic.

 

[Budley Doright]

What, burnt?



You've proven nothing here other than you're antisocial. You know what that means? If you likey you're sociopathic.

Writing a good sentence is a lost art isnt it?????

 

[forty]

he'd get along great with crush if they're not the same botanist.

 

[dagnabit]

LMAO

the only results i will accept on this matter is

18th gen trees grown under blue LEDs with zero stress turning completely hermie!!!


it's just cute now...