is anyone mixing alot of different nutes in one bottle to make there own 1 part?

[dansbuds]

yes it is really that bad of an idea ....... its simple chemistry. two part nutes come in two different bottles for a reason. you should do some reading on mixing your own nutes, it won't take you to long to answer the why and the why nots. in high concentrations elements bond together ....... really

i'm sorry but how many times i gotta say this ..... i'm NOT using a 2 part solution ... its a 1 part with 3 stages .... grow .... bloom & ripe all added to 3 DIFFERENT 5 gallon jugs .

And ultimatly 2 part solutions ... diluted seperatly are added to the final solution (mix) anyways . diluted seperatly so the elements can work together .

 

[One Love 731]

how come this thread hasn't been tossed already. It is a bad idea to mix everything together in one bottle, Ive seen the proof wit me own eyes more than once. Bruh its like this, you can get great results using only CNS17 or other 1 part nutrient's. I promise you will get better results than mixing everything together yourself as one. 1

 

[dansbuds]

t is a bad idea to mix everything together in one bottle, Ive seen the proof wit me own eyes more than once. Bruh its like this, you can get great results using only CNS17 or other 1 part nutrient's. I promise you will get better results than mixing everything together yourself as one. 1

wow ... wtf ??? why does every think i'm mixing all 3 cns17 nutes together ??? thats NOT what i'm doing . each cns17 nute ...grow , bloom & ripe all have they're own 5 gallon jug that is mixed seperatly at different times !!!!
the only thing i'm mixing into 1 jug is
cns17 whether its the grow or the bloom or the ripe NOT all 3 together
calmag
rhizo
& silica
thats it !!! nothing else .

your gonna tell me that your feeding your plants each nute or additive mixed in they're own jug ? no ... you mix them together whether they're diluted first or not into a jug or reseviour . then feed your plants with that mix .

 

[greenmatter]

the fact that you are not using a 2 part does not make you immune to a few laws of chemistry. do some reading before you start mixing things.THEY ARE IN DIFFERENT BOTTLES FOR A REASON.

 

[dansbuds]

I posted this nute schedule earlier it is members stress test . he is doing exactly what i'm talking about & has for years . all i'm trying to figure out is if it will work with my nutes .

I have used this recipe with absolutely fabulous results for years.

I use it on my plants from the time they have roots until they are flipped 12/12... Then I switch the Jack's Classic to GH Super Bloom, (12-55-6)...

I NEVER have to flush, never have deficiencies, and I seldom have pests anymore.

Nutrient/water schedule: By weight, as needed.
Nutrient recipe:
16 crushed Aspirin,
3/8 cup Brer Rabbit Molasses, (8Tbs)
8 tsp Jack's Classic All Purpose (20-20-20),
3 Tbls Epsom Salt,
8 Tbls Lilly Miller Vitamin B1 Plant Starter.
Mixed in 3 cups hot water (boiling hot) to dissolve solids.
Makes 1 quart concentrate. Stored in Refer.
Mixes 16 Gal. @ 1/4 cup per gallon.

This is ALL my plants ever get. Never straight water until 2 weeks before chop.

his nutes are different but the idea is the same thing as mine .

 

[One Love 731]

I didn't even read far enough to understand you even considered using CNS17. My point is if your to lazy to dilute each nute before adding it to the final solution and wait the time in between for everything to mix properly than only use a 1 part. You will have better results period. You will ruin your nutes, its simple pour a small amount of that silica on top of a small amount of bloom you will see what I'm saying. Be cool man, don't want to get all keyboard gangsta on yo ass, lol. 1

 

[dansbuds]

do some reading before you start mixing things.THEY ARE IN DIFFERENT BOTTLES FOR A REASON.

so ... your telling me i can't add my cns17 to my jug or my calmag or my silica or the rhizotonic at any concentration cuz they're in seperate bottles ???? bullshit !!!

so like i said a few minutes ago ..... everybody here adds everything they give they're plants in seperate containers ..... not one additive or nute is added into a rez or jug first before feeding the plants ? is that what you want me to believe ??

 

[dansbuds]

I didn't even read far enough to understand you even considered using CNS17. My point is if your to lazy to dilute each nute before adding it to the final solution and wait the time in between for everything to mix properly than only use a 1 part. You will have better results period. You will ruin your nutes, its simple pour a small amount of that silica on top of a small amount of bloom you will see what I'm saying.

i never once said i don't dilute my nutes before adding them to my jugs . i just want to make it more concentrated .& its got nothing to with laziness & everything to do with time ... i haven't got much time to do all this mixing .

 

[greenmatter]

i don't think you are getting what we are saying. the CONCENTRATES are in the bottles already. when you add a CONCENTRATE to a large volume of water you DILUTE it, therefor it is not a CONCENTRATE any more and will not bond to other elements as readily. the final mix in your rez or the gallon jug you are about to pour on your girls is a SOLUTION/DILUTION of several CONCENTRATES in water, that does not mean it is still concentrated.

your question (at least the way i understand it) is can you mix several different bottles of nutes together BEFORE you add the to the res/feed....... right?

and again the answer would be no ....... the bottles are CONCENTRATES ...... and it is not a good idea to mix them together before you dilute them

 

[dansbuds]

your question (at least the way i understand it) is can you mix several different bottles of nutes together BEFORE you add the to the res/feed....... right?

a diluted version of each nute added to a 1 gallon jug to be kept in the frig so i can add say a pint of the concentrated mix to my final 5 g before PHing & feeding .

and again the answer would be no ....... the bottles are CONCENTRATES ...... and it is not a good idea to mix them together before you dilute them

again ... every nutrient that i use gets diluted before use . in a seperate pint jar before its added to anything .

Ok let me give you an example ... i take 7 grams of epsom salts add that to a 1 liter bottle of RO water so i can add 3ml of that solution to my nute mix during flowering to give the plants the little boost of mag they need in late flowering .

this is kinda what i want to do with all my nutes .
I could take all my bottles & dilute them seperatly into a 1 gallon jugs to be kept in the frig till needed to fill my 5 gallon but thats sensless ,might just as well add them right from the bottle to the pint jar then the 5 gallon .

basicly what i want to do is take each nutrient at the right levels (enough nutrients for 5 gallons ) , dilute them each in a quart jar ( 4 nutes ... 4 quarts ) & add them together in a 1 gallon jug to keep in the frig for when needed . that would give me 4- 1 quart dosages that i can add to a 5 gallon jug for a final solution . if i did this with a 2 gallon jug it would give me 8 dosages to use . do you see what i'm getting at now . this would make it so i can save time mixing every 2 days & only have to mix like that once a week or less . am i that wrong in thinking this way ?

PH reading would be taken after the 5 g is mixed & bubbled of course .

 

[greenmatter]

i get what you are saying, but it is a roll of the dice without knowing how to run some serious math. if you don't get things diluted enough before you mix them you will have problems.... temps, the order you do your final mix and ph could have an effect on the whole game too.

..... i try to keep it simple so i spend less time trying to figure out what the hell i did wrong

 

[dansbuds]

..... i try to keep it simple so i spend less time trying to figure out what the hell i did wrong

i absolutely understand that i'm usually a KISS grower but switching to coco & the cation between elements has me thinking in other directions .

i get what you are saying, but it is a roll of the dice without knowing how to run some serious math. if you don't get things diluted enough before you mix them you will have problems.... temps, the order you do your final mix and ph could have an effect on the whole game too.

thank you green matter .... finally someone that reads before posting an answer .
i basicly gave up on the idea of trying to do this but the way the thread was going I had to keep running with it till someone understood fully what i was wanting to do . so many people just don't read all the posts before spitting out comments .

the math part is my problem & was hoping someone had some experiance doing what i was asking but that doesn't seem to be the case . so untill i can find out exactly what elements will bind & what ones will cause problems .. i'll stick to the way i'm doing it now , a bit of a PIA but i'll figure something out . I may have to switch nutes in order to ease up on my mixing schedules but we'll see . I see alot of people are using the maxibloom for coco .... i was using it with promix but didn't like the results ... so i tried the cns17 line cuz of hearing good thinga about it .

but ... thanx guys for trying to help . yes sometimes i tend to think outside the box & that creates others to think i'm clueless but i'm not ... i'm just trying different things to get the results i want , not what everybody else thinks i need .

 

[poipu79]

i just mixed 79 ml each of A B C together...


...poipu

 

[poipu79]

1 hour later


...poipu

 

[poipu79]

2 hours later


...poipu

 

[eloquentsoution]

you definitely sound like me. i get laughed at all the time....till they see one of my girls.....

 

[TREE KING]

what are you trying to say poipu79 cause the third pic isnt that clear? did you blow up the house yet lol?

 

[ShroomDr]

At BEST, the question is "How concentrated a 'stock solution' can be made with the given products?"

 

[dansbuds]

At BEST, the question is "How concentrated a 'stock solution' can be made with the given products?"

Thank you schroom dr that is exactly what i was trying to say (ask) . just in more plain english than i got out of my mouth .

 

[BluntKilla]

Don't do it. The fertilizers are stored in separate bottles BECAUSE you're not supposed to mix them in concentration.