Yah`mon
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Anyone seen the mouse land video? It's Canadian related, but sums it up pretty good. 6minutes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqgOvzUeiAA
Yah`mon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqgOvzUeiAA
Yah`mon
President Obama- Drug Warrior?
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This thread is not about MMJ any more, if it ever was. It is a political thread with the intent of bashing Obama and why it was and still is allowed is beyond me. A few may be mentioning mmj briefly but it is 95% political propaganda. And BigHerbTree is right about everything he says. I can't believe the idiocy of most on the other side.
tiktok420
Member
@Red Fang
@Everyone Else
If you want cannabis legalized you will never get it from the republicans (minus Ron Paul) or the democrats. If any of you democrats think that Hillary, Pelosi, Reid or the rest of the clowns would support legalization you are delusional. Barney Frank and Kucinich and a dozen or so other democrats are the exception. The majority of democrats in congress do not support legalization.
http://www.420magazine.com/forums/u...rijuana-h-r-2835-personal-use-h-r-2943-a.html
Sounds like you have your own agenda. So if "BiG H3rB Tr3E" is correct about everything he says then why don't you back it up with some proof. Obama is no better or worse for the legalization movement than Bush or the republicans. Prove otherwise with some facts and myself and others might listen.
@Everyone Else
If you want cannabis legalized you will never get it from the republicans (minus Ron Paul) or the democrats. If any of you democrats think that Hillary, Pelosi, Reid or the rest of the clowns would support legalization you are delusional. Barney Frank and Kucinich and a dozen or so other democrats are the exception. The majority of democrats in congress do not support legalization.
http://www.420magazine.com/forums/u...rijuana-h-r-2835-personal-use-h-r-2943-a.html
ill take a "dozen or so" over the 1 that the GOP is embarassed to have on their side...
again im not dem or rep - and its ashame the liberterians arent taken more serious but it is what it is and i will always side with the lesser of two evils until a better option arises....but im not holding my breath
PS::: just let me know what youd like for me to "back up with fact" because everything ive put down here in this thread is based on fact - so id be happy to enlighten you, but as my posts tend to ramble on and on... im not entirely sure which point your referring to...
PSS::: from the link you provided its closer to two dozen democratic representatives that are in support of mj/mmj. 22 to be exact... (not counting barney frank) to the 2 republican reps. so if you ask why i tend to choose a dem over a rep. thats just one reason on a long list as to who gets my vote
Captain Ginyu
Member
He's just another puppet in the business of making the masses believe he's actually doing something good. The real power comes from the people you never see, ( such as the international bankers). Those cocks don't give a damn about who's the pres, or term limits, because they really run the show. So the more you realize that the two-party system is a bunch of bullshit, the more you understand that you really don't have a choice!
not to be a prick>>> but its always interesting to me that we always get a group of you who try to bring this whole ::: NWO - secret puppet masters - repubs and dems are a sham . type bullshit.
cool we get it. you watch alex jones and jerk off to zeitgeist. congratulations. please return your brainwave blocking crainium guard to its upright position and remove the microchip that was implanted in your brain by CIA interns while you were sleeping last night so they cant track you with their satallites in the sky for fear that your marijuana infused rant will cause an uprising like this country has never seen before
hgherbals420
Member
^^^^ Yeah that 
Big money interests definitely determine where the pres's boundaries are, but I don't buy into the whole conspiracy theory inside a conspiracy theory inside a puppet inside a conspiracy theory jazz either.
Big money interests definitely determine where the pres's boundaries are, but I don't buy into the whole conspiracy theory inside a conspiracy theory inside a puppet inside a conspiracy theory jazz either.
elwaponino
Member
Look, if you wanna cop out with Obama, that's your choice, if you can accept mediocrity in presidential candidates, maybe you might wanna move to another country where elections are outright rigged.
But in YOUR state today Ron Paul won the straw poll.
http://www.infowars.com/ron-paul-wins-2011-california-straw-poll/
P.S. I never called you an Obama nut, and never would call you one, but it's quite interesting that YOU thought that.
tiktok420
Member
@BiG H3rB Tr3E
I was referring to your first post, I didn't see your other posts. Sound like we agree on more things than not. I just don't agree that the democrats are any better of a choice than the republicans when it comes to cannabis legalization. Looking back over the last 20 years you really can't tell much of a difference in actions between the two at least at the federal government level, but that is what this was about anyways. Oh sure a few of them talk a big game but that is about it.
I obviously wasnt trying to be exact when I said
I was in too much of a hurry to count. I sure hope you didn't miss my point : )
Captain Ginyu
Member
Just telling things how they are, and unlike an ignorant sheeptard such as yourself, I DON'T believe everything the news tells me. Perhaps you should watch a little less TV for your own good.
And NO, I don't watch Alex jones, and god forbid don't jerk off to zeitgeist either. Hell, I'm not even stoned. So go pick up a dictionary and start by looking up critical thinking. What's ironic is your boy you quoted there, Carlin. He believed in it.
And NO, I don't watch Alex jones, and god forbid don't jerk off to zeitgeist either. Hell, I'm not even stoned. So go pick up a dictionary and start by looking up critical thinking. What's ironic is your boy you quoted there, Carlin. He believed in it.
Can we tone this down a little?
I enjoy a healthy debate. If this were "Anti's Cannagraphic" I would let people say whatever they wanted, about any subject they wanted and call me a cocksucker without having threads closed down.
But it isn't. And the rules here state that we're not supposed to have political discussions that don't pertain to the cannabis legalization movement because a bunch of people who can't spell and like to type in caps soon come in and ruin it for everybody.
I like Ron Paul, as I've stated several times. I'm still waiting for any of you RP guys (or repub guys) to come up with a reasonable argument of how Ron Paul is going to abolish the federal reserve, end war, retrofit our tax system, dismantle the federal bureaucracy and legalize all freedom if a guy who is 10x more moderate (i.e. Obama) can't even get congress to entertain reasonable ideas like bringing capital gains taxes back in line with income tax (as Reagan did in the 80's.)
How is Ron Paul going to do something that goes against everything that Boehner stands for?
Seriously.
Also, how many of you have watched all of the republican debates? I have. When i started watching them, it was to cheerlead for Ron Paul. And I think he held his own pretty well in Iowa. Since then, other candidates (Romney, Perry) have been playing politics and attempting to speak and act like powerful, patriotic, presidential figures. Ron Paul has been ranting and raving and acting like a crotchety old man.
I love the guy. I love what he stands for. I love the things he says, but unless he can learn to say them in a way that sounds like he's in control, he's never going to get nominated.
It's one thing to be fired up and another thing to make yourself look like a kook.
I hope he can turn it around, but in my heart of hearts, I don't think it's very likely.
(Flame on.)
I enjoy a healthy debate. If this were "Anti's Cannagraphic" I would let people say whatever they wanted, about any subject they wanted and call me a cocksucker without having threads closed down.
But it isn't. And the rules here state that we're not supposed to have political discussions that don't pertain to the cannabis legalization movement because a bunch of people who can't spell and like to type in caps soon come in and ruin it for everybody.
I like Ron Paul, as I've stated several times. I'm still waiting for any of you RP guys (or repub guys) to come up with a reasonable argument of how Ron Paul is going to abolish the federal reserve, end war, retrofit our tax system, dismantle the federal bureaucracy and legalize all freedom if a guy who is 10x more moderate (i.e. Obama) can't even get congress to entertain reasonable ideas like bringing capital gains taxes back in line with income tax (as Reagan did in the 80's.)
How is Ron Paul going to do something that goes against everything that Boehner stands for?
Seriously.
Also, how many of you have watched all of the republican debates? I have. When i started watching them, it was to cheerlead for Ron Paul. And I think he held his own pretty well in Iowa. Since then, other candidates (Romney, Perry) have been playing politics and attempting to speak and act like powerful, patriotic, presidential figures. Ron Paul has been ranting and raving and acting like a crotchety old man.
I love the guy. I love what he stands for. I love the things he says, but unless he can learn to say them in a way that sounds like he's in control, he's never going to get nominated.
It's one thing to be fired up and another thing to make yourself look like a kook.
I hope he can turn it around, but in my heart of hearts, I don't think it's very likely.
(Flame on.)
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Scrappy-doo
Interesting to hear someone who is so into Ron Paul and yet so against conspiracy theories.
Isn't Ron Paul all about anti NWO agenda, secret puppet masters, federal reserve, left right is a sham, thing? I'm pretty sure I've heard him talk about it dozens of times.
And then the Alex Jones reference... who's show has Ron Paul on as a regular guest, and is probably one of Paul's most vocal supporters.
It's just strange to me because I always considered Paul a conspiracy theorist.
Isn't Ron Paul all about anti NWO agenda, secret puppet masters, federal reserve, left right is a sham, thing? I'm pretty sure I've heard him talk about it dozens of times.
And then the Alex Jones reference... who's show has Ron Paul on as a regular guest, and is probably one of Paul's most vocal supporters.
It's just strange to me because I always considered Paul a conspiracy theorist.
Im a realist >> the reason i dont buy into the conspiracy theories is because theres never any definte evidence. its always one of two things...
1)broadly based theories with little to no details besides someone ranting about how the people who really run things always will run things...
2)some wild themed sci-fi idea about pagans rituals, space aliens and secret billionares reptillian groups ...
(in my carnival voice) ::: "presidents control nothing and do nothing - they are all controlled by reptillian forces who meet in under ground ancient ruins - where they sacrafice a new born christian baby and let the blood spill onto stone tablets that were crafted millions of years ago by jamberlaki beings who visited this world from the raptukeli nebula to instill their practives via a pagan ritual to determine the fate of each and every election for the entirety of the human race - all pre determined by witch doctors who make home in the clouds above the tallest peaks on the highest mountain where only the bilderbergs and the rothchilds have access to but only on the 20 th day of the 20th year when the moon shadows the sky on the southern hemisphere and moon goblins send particle beams telepathically to ensure all exsistance"
1)broadly based theories with little to no details besides someone ranting about how the people who really run things always will run things...
2)some wild themed sci-fi idea about pagans rituals, space aliens and secret billionares reptillian groups ...
(in my carnival voice) ::: "presidents control nothing and do nothing - they are all controlled by reptillian forces who meet in under ground ancient ruins - where they sacrafice a new born christian baby and let the blood spill onto stone tablets that were crafted millions of years ago by jamberlaki beings who visited this world from the raptukeli nebula to instill their practives via a pagan ritual to determine the fate of each and every election for the entirety of the human race - all pre determined by witch doctors who make home in the clouds above the tallest peaks on the highest mountain where only the bilderbergs and the rothchilds have access to but only on the 20 th day of the 20th year when the moon shadows the sky on the southern hemisphere and moon goblins send particle beams telepathically to ensure all exsistance"
the fractional reserve banking system is real and yes it really debases our currencey,so im not sure whats crazy about that.
i cannot comment on alex jones i know what his show is,mabey he wants to give it credit by talking about a few real situations in politics.
they are different then whats traditionally taught, but to denounce them without understanding what they are is nieve.
now is anyone else supporting leaglizing MJ ,nope. just ron paul,so yeah for every persons vote that would have counted and lost to apethy is why we arnt going to have leaglization ever. pure pessimisim.
i cannot comment on alex jones i know what his show is,mabey he wants to give it credit by talking about a few real situations in politics.
they are different then whats traditionally taught, but to denounce them without understanding what they are is nieve.
now is anyone else supporting leaglizing MJ ,nope. just ron paul,so yeah for every persons vote that would have counted and lost to apethy is why we arnt going to have leaglization ever. pure pessimisim.
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Scrappy-doo
Why do you think it is that nobody else wants to legalize?
because its served up on a silver platter,it doesnt require anything but participation.
yet the means to our ends are rejected,to prove a point that the media does control everything? just play victom ? im not sure what or how its proposed MJ be leaglized,im assuming theirs some sort of uprising or other ways of getting it im not aware of? im just not sure what should be proposed thats gonna be taken more seriously.
yet the means to our ends are rejected,to prove a point that the media does control everything? just play victom ? im not sure what or how its proposed MJ be leaglized,im assuming theirs some sort of uprising or other ways of getting it im not aware of? im just not sure what should be proposed thats gonna be taken more seriously.
Look, this is really simple.
Republicans suck.
Democrats suck.
The two party system sucks.
Only two sides to bribe.
BUT: Ron Paul is really a libertarian, but since he knows a third party candidate cannot be elected, he is calling himself a Republican.
It is a pragmatic decision.
BUT, he is the only candidate who is anti prohibition, he is the only candidate who introduced a bill on the federal level to end the prohibition of cannabis.
And this being a cannabis site, I just don't see how anyone here can vote any other way.
The man believes in the constitution.
He believes in stopping these endless wars that are bankrupting us and killing our boys to no end.
He is not in the pocket of big business.
He is honest to a fault, and that alone makes him different than all other politicians.
He is not a hypocrite and straight up liar as O'bama has proven to be.
This is really a no brainer:
Ron Paul for President!
Republicans suck.
Democrats suck.
The two party system sucks.
Only two sides to bribe.
BUT: Ron Paul is really a libertarian, but since he knows a third party candidate cannot be elected, he is calling himself a Republican.
It is a pragmatic decision.
BUT, he is the only candidate who is anti prohibition, he is the only candidate who introduced a bill on the federal level to end the prohibition of cannabis.
And this being a cannabis site, I just don't see how anyone here can vote any other way.
The man believes in the constitution.
He believes in stopping these endless wars that are bankrupting us and killing our boys to no end.
He is not in the pocket of big business.
He is honest to a fault, and that alone makes him different than all other politicians.
He is not a hypocrite and straight up liar as O'bama has proven to be.
This is really a no brainer:
Ron Paul for President!
the only problem i have is registering as a republican to vote for paul - because if he doesnt get on the ticket than who am i left with ? romney? perry?... god forbid... bachman??
and lets just be real...besides the very few select of us who would VOTE for paul - most people on both sides of the party lines wont vote for him. if he couldnt do it in 2008 - i just dont see how he could do it now...
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Scrappy-doo
He has a LOT more support now. Obama was the last hope for many people who lost faith in the system. He capitalized on their desire for something truly revolutionary. Change we can believe in. They really thought he was going to be different. Now that he's shown to be just another politician, the people's faith in the system has broken and they are searching for something real.
I personally look at every other option and I see the same plastic fake actors that I've been seeing for years. Different faces but they are exactly the same cookie cutter image of a politician. Obviously trained in how to look 'presidential', with their fake smiles and their groomed shiny hair and their professional mannerisms and their talking points that they rehearsed and will be sure to say, even if it has nothing to do with the questions asked. They are actors.
And then you have Ron Paul, who is raw and in the moment. He actually considers what he's being asked and answers on the fly, with words coming from his own intellect and guts and convictions, not some coach who is telling him what points to make. Nothing is rehearsed with him. To me it is plain to see in his body language. The man says what he believes and does so without worrying how it sounds. He's not worried about how he looks. Watch his body language in screen shots during debates when he's not answering a question. He's not 'trying'. He's not putting on a show to come across a certain way to the public. He knows he has truth on his side and there is so much power that comes with that.
Ron Paul is the BOSS
I personally look at every other option and I see the same plastic fake actors that I've been seeing for years. Different faces but they are exactly the same cookie cutter image of a politician. Obviously trained in how to look 'presidential', with their fake smiles and their groomed shiny hair and their professional mannerisms and their talking points that they rehearsed and will be sure to say, even if it has nothing to do with the questions asked. They are actors.
And then you have Ron Paul, who is raw and in the moment. He actually considers what he's being asked and answers on the fly, with words coming from his own intellect and guts and convictions, not some coach who is telling him what points to make. Nothing is rehearsed with him. To me it is plain to see in his body language. The man says what he believes and does so without worrying how it sounds. He's not worried about how he looks. Watch his body language in screen shots during debates when he's not answering a question. He's not 'trying'. He's not putting on a show to come across a certain way to the public. He knows he has truth on his side and there is so much power that comes with that.
Ron Paul is the BOSS
^The way to change this is add mandatory term limits to all offices. Eliminate the "Career Politician."
get rid of governor's and mayor's mansions and things of that sort. Public service should not resemble, or facilitate luxury.
get rid of governor's and mayor's mansions and things of that sort. Public service should not resemble, or facilitate luxury.
