Opinions...?

[MIway]

Say if you've got the opportunity to go it big... property out in the middle of nowhere, secluded, enough cash flow to cover through the end, plus to get/have all the gear necessary to properly build it out. Say 20 lit on a 40k budget... access at cost on a lot of gear + all the commercial extras one would need. Build & run the way you want... lots o acres. Assume all of this part is solid.

Problem... you don't like the guy to be working with, whom would really have very little to do with the venture, but you've seen elements to the guy that you do not respect or condone. Guys more like a chump than anything... and tends to see things from a slant that isn't 'normal', or perhaps rational. I already see problems with him, primarily because they are problems that I have... don't overly respect the guy... and his shit already is getting to me. Not a person that would rip from me, but a jackass nonetheless. I just don't like the guy, he bothers the fuck outta me.

Holding the idea that I will be far, far away & he's got his plate full too, so clinging to the idea that I can make it work out. Could you bite your tongue & deal? Should I?

Got an out otherwise... actually, been working on... couple of smaller spread out. Would be dropping this for the other, likely... or to not progress here any further than I am already in. It's just ghetto... and unsafe. Feel my ass is hanging out here. It's where I'm at... gotta do what ya gotta do... and i'l get through the first. This other guy came at me just this morning, so it changes what i'm doing now, if I go that route.

Any opinions? Thanks in advance. I just don't feel 'great' either way... but should I drop the current for the other? Seeing that neither is ideal...????

I go with the ghetto... probably 7-10 before can do it up on my own, as is the plan right now. go with the ranch... can spin a second looking at month 4. assuming neither gets my ass fucked, that is... got an idiot on one side... and greater risk on the other. money says go with the idiot... he really bothers the fuck outta me.

 

[WelderDan]

Walk away.

If you don't trust the guy 100% and have even the slightest idea he's shady, walk away.

 

[h^2 O]

"Don't let yourself get attached to anything you are not willing to walk out on in thirty seconds flat, if you feel the heat around the corner"

Can't work with people man - the minute you take on help your chances of being busted or robbed go up 50%. That's why I always make fun of the mustard-stained wifebeaters...to do this shit you really have to do it solo, and it's a lot of work, and they end up working long hours alone and they kind of become like Kurt Russel in The Thing...

Outpost McMurdo

 

[longearedfriend]

I feel that there is some information that is missing to form a proper opinion

 

[FreezerBoy]

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[InJoy]

I feel that there is some information that is missing to form a proper opinion

if he is just an idiot but won't impose his idiot ways on you i say go for it.

But if you don't trust the guy or feel like he isn't stand up guy like he would talk shit and be a safty risk i would def say no way.

the getto thing sounds like you should wait til your better set up if ya can.

 

[rootfingers]

With what you say and everything you didn't I would go with the idiot and spin off asap. Many people here will tell you to not involve other people but you have to look at this like any other business.

For whatever reason you need this guy to get a solid start so get your start and reassess after that. I can and do work everyday with people I don't like all that much and I have flaws too but we put that shit aside when it comes time to do business. Leave the emotions at home in business.

 

[FRIENDinDEED]

tell farley to chuck himself!!!

tell farley to chuck himself!!!

"Don't let yourself get attached to anything you are not willing to walk out on in thirty seconds flat, if you feel the heat around the corner"

Can't work with people man - the minute you take on help your chances of being busted or robbed go up 50%. That's why I always make fun of the mustard-stained wifebeaters...to do this shit you really have to do it solo, and it's a lot of work, and they end up working long hours alone and they kind of become like Kurt Russel in The Thing...

Outpost McMurdo

besides all of the posts about security and teh like and people, i think this one suits me best and i TOTALLY agree 100%

ive had my experience with dealing with other people and its not fun, especially when your dealing with a complete idiot that has an excuse for every fucking thing under the sun that went wrong with something besides themselves.

my opinion: go big but if you got it like that, totally automate your grow and make it as self sufficient as your pockets can allow for (generators, solar panels, etc). maybe someone else, or even another life time but life is too short with ppl like that, and like someone else said, you increase your chances of getting busted by at the least 50%.

and because i dont want this thing to become a hassle, i have a plan for everything with limits. how small i want it to be (which is where i have it now) all the way up to how big i want it to be, and once i can max out what i have on a consistent basis without thinking about it, THEN and only then will i even think about going bigger

SIDEBAR: thats why i see hydro as the way to go for me right now, still changing and evolving as a grower.

back on topic: so yeah dump your funds into automation and tel that other guy to go fuck himself! in this lifestyle you dont need bullshit and you need to always curtail it as much/soon as possible

EDIT: and as far as the ghetto thing? fuuuuuuck that shit, let them "niggas" (whether black/white/asian/european - yes, yes ppl they come in all races/cultures/ethnicities now!!) stay right where the fuck they are!! its the very reason why i speak to no one but the person that lives to the right of me and the other person that lives to the left, wave at the ppl across the street and THAT IS ALL! outside of that everyone esle gets a headnod, and the others i dont even make eye contact with, straight talk

 

[stillsmokin843]

make an agreement that will just make him a silent partner. wre all he does is cover the cost and split the profit. strictly business if ya could help it i wouldnt even let him know the new location if possible. as long as ya think theres nothing else to fear than what you mentioned. hell ya never know in this business doesnt hurt to have a partner with deep pockets especially god for bid it comes to bond and a lawyer. think and smoke on it bro hope it all works out well for ya.

 

[mad librettist]

you can sell the idea as safety. the less you know, the less you can be screwed.

 

[paladin420]

Hey man did you not hav this problem with people before??? I stopped readin at 'I really don't like him"!!!!! Freezer B nailed it RUN MUTHERFUKER RUN...NO..NO HOW NOWAY..

 

[Warped1]

It seems like you already have some doubts. If it were me, I'd want to be really comfortable with the situation or say screw it

 

[COOKIE MONSTER]

 

[MIway]

I feel that there is some information that is missing to form a proper opinion

yeah bro... didn't want to get into the nitty gritty... my overall sentiment is what it is. the guy is flaky... kinda avoids & placates things until they become big problems... seen this with his dealings with other people/situations.

also, some of his reactions & expressions concern me. not someone i would normally like to put confidence in. but he has his shit going on & life isn't easy for anyone, so i try to cut him some slack when judging. but maybe i'm just afraid of a bunny rabbit here.


k... this was pitched to the guy a while ago... months. definite interest & 2 go's already. weeks get in between. so much so, made the call to go ghetto. started down that road. now comes back with a handful of cash, expressing it is as solid as solid can be, no doubts, no reservations, done w the other projects, lets do it.

1. i'm into the ghetto now. i said it to him. i really do not like to go against what i agree to... even when it costs me. this is my history, this is my character... i won't fuck you til you fuck me. guy isn't a bad guy necessarily, i got a good read on him. only issue here is the ghetto... and i can see getting ripped from, just because of the area, more so than the knock on the door. i'll get this done... assuming no one rips from me... and we've got the gear where i think this can be done, except anyone that notices my patterns... not living there, no way. it's good to go... just not as big as i would like... on some split... just takes me longer, with longer exposure to the risk.

2. the other plan, is basically my personal goal, just gotta give out a share. i get control, i pick the spot, i build it out, i live there, i grow it, he gets his cut & worries about it on his own. he gets access though... had to agree with this point. if far enough away, likely just won't get the visits... and i'm talkin acres in the woods... far far away. this guy is flaky though... and has history of problems getting into the biz... so hand holding as well. flaky & scared.


Do I go against what I have already committed to... a relative lock... or chase the dream property with someone that i know is a flake, but really does have cash...? Risk is with both, just part & parcel... they take kinda different forms, but it's still risk.

Thanks guys... it's boiling down for me as I type. Really do appreciate the comments... really do. Thanks y'all... it's one of those things that my phone call later tonight has to have some form & direction to it. Mean, i gotta keep building tonight, or tell him & help work it out so i can bail. think i gotta bail on the money, and not break my word.

 

[smokefrogg]

from the first post, well it sounds like you're setting yourself up for major fail and disappointment, *warning will robinson warning!!*

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

That's the Idea

That's the Idea

He is right. run away from both. Do your own shit. Don't work with idiots in any business ever, and don't work with ghetto shit. I have stuck to that motto with every job I ever had and it pays off.

 

[supermanlives]

walk away as has been said

 

[greenmatter]

go with your instincts! if you think he is an idiot stay the hell away from him ...... hate to see you writing the "i got fucked and knew better" thread around december. good luck man

 

[Sam the Caveman]

If he knows where the grow is, no way, but if he wants to treat it like an investment and he is ok with not knowing anything and fully trusting you, this might work. It doesn't sound like that is the way it is though.

I would pass on his offer. Even with a perfect candidate for a partner, its not a good idea generally.

 

[NOKUY]

if shit went down and HE gets busted....do you think that he would take the fall w/out snitching on you....prolly not

(that would be my first question anyway)