BC Grapefruit

[SOTF420]

Green Supreme you should post some of those pics I used to salivate over my brother

And before anyone disputes or questions anything GS says because of a low post count, you must realize who the above person is making the post if you are not already familiar.

Trust me and everything frosty & sweet I stand for...Green Supreme knows what he is talking about he has more experience with these SOL cuts & strains than just about anyone here. Wait 'til he starts posting pics

Much love

 

[SOTF420]

They rarely mold on me and if they do it's a tiny piece of cola. I think yes they may be susceptible to PM / Botyris more so than many other strains because of the dense cola structure and the way it forms and swells so early thus trapping more moisture and then of course there is such a thing as a predisposition to certain afflictions in general where the lines of some Cannabis plants are more resistant than others just like with Tomatoes and various commercial cultivars. The whole allure of the Swt #4 back when it came out was that Steve reportedly picked the mother(s) that were the most resistant to the budrot that plagued the #3 line for some growers and were the last plants standing basically when the rest were hit with rot then those plants were repollinated with the Sweet Tooth Bx2 P1 male that fathered Swt #3, LUI, & Blockhead. It makes sense really and I have had very little issues with mine over the last almost 9 years growing her & the pure incrosses of it. I would not encourage people though to grow these plants outdoors in soggy cool conditions they do much better indoors in a more controlled environment.

 

[ixnay007]

Since plants actually have the ability to "fight back" against mold and fungi (salysilic acid is an indicator of infection, and helps produce pathogenesis-related proteins, which is why spraying aspirin solutions on your plants will help protect against mold) I'd imagine that some plants react much more quickly to the presence of pathogens, and others don't.

So, yeah, I think saying a plant is more prone to mold isn't a misstatement.

 

[wrongwrong]

Edgy topic...

Despite some of the attitude you've had directed at you insider for a pretty simple question, there is some truth to what has been posted here already.

Let me put it this way... you won't find the SPG in seed form anywhere, it's simply not possible with conventional seeds. The SPG is a highly heterozygous and polymorphic hybrid plant. This FACT makes it incredibly difficult for a breeder to stabilize into a reliable and accurate representation of the original clone in seed form.

This is the reason (more accurately, part of the reason) the past attempts by various seedmakers to put it into seed form failed.... from SOLs Swt #3, Fed's Mikado, Next gen's Dynamite and Reeferscam's 'Grapefruit'.... at least Fed and Next Gen had the integrity to never have claimed it to be SPG in seed form.

None of them produced SPG is seed form because repeated backcrosses to a heterozygous plant always produces more heterozygosity. The breeding strategies used by these seedmakers was doomed to fail... sure you can get a population composed purely or almost purely of the genetics of the original plant, however them being identical genetically with the original plant, consistently, is near impossible... in fact for all practical intents and purposes, it IS impossible.

As far as S1's from the SPG... good luck with that. The GF has a 'wet' pollen phenotype when staminate flowers are induced via hormone interference techniques like using Silver Thiosulfate, Stamen~It! etc. Some pollen is produced but won't "fly"... you have to go digging into the flower to retrieve any... so it's not a viable technique for producing commercial quantities of seed, and thus I doubt you will see SPG S1's on the market anytime soon, despite promises from others who have not attempted to make the seeds. You certainly won't be able to induce useable amounts of pollen from colloidal silver treatment... I don't know why people even try to use this technique it is so minimally effective.

Lastly, if they even were able to produce S1 seed from SPG... very few if any of the resulting plants would truly resemble the SPG, again due to the heterozygous nature of the plant.

I read you don't like the hard sell insider, so here's a soft pitch... the GFxBB from our stock is pretty much as close as you will get to finding a SPG dominant plant from today's seed market. I think in many regards, they are better. They are less prone to rot, and I have had no problems with them auto-flowering. If these don't suit you, I suggest doing your best to look around the lower mainland and find the SPG... she is still held by as few growers who buck the kush trend.

If you have no luck, check in with the VSB in January... and ask if Chimera has dropped of any of his samples from the 'new top secret project'. I expect them to be ready for retail release sometime around then... it might give you an opportunity to get a few things you've not been able to find before on the LM.

Hope that helps,
-Chimera

Chimera,

With this in mind the SPG being heterozygous, and you having the lab, brains etc.. could reverse breeding be applicable?

 

[Green Supreme]

As Chimera stated nothing will likely be Grapefruit, if it comes from a bean. Close, but no cigar. I have a few nug shots at posts 53 and 55 in this thread. Peace GS


https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=220312&page=4

 

[Mountain_Monkey]

I'm thinking of hitting a femaleseeds GF with a Next gen Dynamite just to see the outcome. I'm sure that somewhere in the resulting beans I'll find something special, 50/50 hybrid, Indica buds on a Sativa structure, 9 weeks, ripe red grapefruit smell and taste. No problems at all. Just put the next few years aside and buy a nice slice of land somewhere in the pacific, should find my perfect plant within the first 10,000 beans I germ... no worries.
As I have no formal knowledge/training in breeding plants that's what I think it would take (especially seeing as I'm a really picky s.o.b) to find my ultimate grapefruit plant. After all that I'd probably lose her in a folly attempt at cloning whilst under the influence of extracts anyway. I make Ketamine munching MDMA caners on 36hr benders look respectable when I hit the BHO... memories of trying to eat chocolate bars -wrapper on- come to mind, the opening them up bit is just sooo hard sometimes!!! I'll leave the breeding to the professionals whilst I chuck pollen and get lucky once in a while.

 

[SOTF420]

I don't know what you guys consider Grapefruit but I know the vast majority of Sweet Tooth plants I have EVER grown have always been sickly sweet, very sugary totally covered in trich's and had that sappy perfumey sour pink grapefruit peel aroma or a more sweet candy citrus aroma. Some of them are extremely GF leaning, I grew the clone years back when I had the Sweet Skunk clone as well from SOL and to be honest many of the Sweet Tooth plants are stronger plants with thicker stems than the SPG clone as it was a bit floppy and did not seem to be as vigorous. The majority of the traits from SPG aroma wise that are clearly present in the Sweet Tooth (in the #4 at least) are unmistakable.

Growing in well amended organic soil really helps to bring these traits out and of course to let the plants mature properly. It's true the SPG looks ready at 6 weeks in good grow conditions but you really have to let these plants goto at least 8 or 9 weeks minimum and let them flush out properly for the best taste & potency. I would put up some organic super frosty grapefruity goodness (Sweet Tooth #4) bud up against any of these other so called "grapefruit" strains and there is no doubt the smoker would be extremely happy to smoke it and enjoy every second of the blissful happy euphoric buzz. The high is the best part it's anti-anxiety, creative & very kind. It makes you feel the way good Cannabis is supossed to feel like. Sweet Tooth is a nice yielder too and makes some awesome hash very easily as well because it's so damn frosty!

 

[Green Supreme]

I like Sweet Tooth too, especially in her first incarnation. I would have them both, because they are different. Sugar coating are just that. Sweet Tooth is Sweet Tooth, Grapefruit is Grapefruit. The intention with Sweet Tooth was not necessarily an attempt at Grapefruit in seed form. All this Sweet Tooth talk in the Grapefruit threads is not only redundant, seems like someone wants to create the hype. Good luck regardless. Peace GS

 

[Brad]

SPG x Godzilla Grape ..just a little something ive been playing around with. love me spg..floppy stems or not
PEACE

 

[SOTF420]

I like Sweet Tooth too, especially in her first incarnation. I would have them both, because they are different. Sugar coating are just that. Sweet Tooth is Sweet Tooth, Grapefruit is Grapefruit. The intention with Sweet Tooth was not necessarily an attempt at Grapefruit in seed form. All this Sweet Tooth talk in the Grapefruit threads is not only redundant, seems like someone wants to create the hype. Good luck regardless. Peace GS

I would think Sweet Tooth is certainly more relevant to "BC Grapefruit" than strains like NYCD, C99, etc some others have been talking about in the recent grapefruit threads and which as far as I know have no SPG in them whatsoever. We all know that SPG exactly is not available in seed form at least right now per say as Chimera has stated.

I know that the very first Sweet Tooth F1's that were 50% BB were very much different than the later multiple backcrossed Swt #3 & #4 versions which were (as you know well) Breeder Steve doing his best to focus on the aroma and traits of the SPG and fix the traits of the SPG clone in seed form. I think he did a very good job and many of the plants that came from those seeds were very well superior to the clone in many ways. However you get it, your daily serving of grapefruit is highly recommended as part of a healthy balanced fine Cannabis diet!

 

[Green Supreme]

More nugs I puffed before work. Peace GS

 

[Mountain_Monkey]

Brad, that SPGxGG pic is awesome mate, very impressed. I like the looks of that cross, seems it's got those really thick, dense frosty baseball bat buds that you just want to take a big ass bite out of, brings back SwT#3 in DWC memories... very nice workmate.

 

[Mt Toaker]

That SPGxBB could be some dank. . .

 

[cr0n]

I am thinking I am going to reverse my 2003 NYCD and hit my SPG. It sounds like a winner to me. What do you guy's think.

 

[shuswap]

i can vouch for the original clone as well,been a long time keeper inour stable now...

 

[bdiddly1]

Island Sweet Skunk is also the Sweet Pink Grapefruit X Big Skunk#1, and the Blockhead is Sweet Tooth X unknown hybrid. ISS in the background, Blockhead in the foreground.

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I know you want the real Grapefruit - for nostalgic reasons - but these crosses are way up there and probably easier to get a hold of than a rarely heard of clone only,

What breeder is working with the Grapefruit nowadays?

femaleseeds.nl does grapefruit,its excellent,smelling&strength,i have grew it a few times&it smells,tastes like lime starbust/opal fruit sweets...bloody lovely

 

[djb]

heres a bc grapefruit i have finishing up nicely

 

[Tipz]

Grapefruit haze 1998

Grapefruit haze 1998

 

[PARADOX]

If you want to find the grapefruit cut, all you have to do is head to the Okanagan of BC. Its alive and well. love it inside under controlled conditions. In the greenhouse it bud rots way too easy. As soon as it gets rootbound in veg it autoflowers, lots of root pruning is needed to keep mother plants vegging.

 

[codger]

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I have an old pack marked Grapefruit,SOL line #10 I wonder if this is when Breeder Steve was working his grapefruit lines. Would be pretty cool if it was might find a nice pheno or two...codger