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A perfect cure every time

mad librettist

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Thank you for this great thread Simon!

Its been 2 days since I put them in the jars and also dried for 4 days at 70-75 degrees with 60-65% humidity. As soon as I jarred them in about 2 hours time they rose to 70%. I layed everything on a screen for about 8 hrs then back in the jar and its still 70% with the lids open they stay at 60-65% range.

My question is should I lay everything back out to dry some more (really don't want to over dry em though) or keep em in jars and everytime the humidity gets to 70, open the lid till it gets lower to the correct range? The lid would be open most of the day I'm thinking so how would that effect the process. Or leaving then half open?. I'm using 1/2 gal mason jars. I was also planning on grabbing some humidity packs to help keep it in range.



that's what I did last time, worked great. after a while the RH in the open jars started to stay down with the lids closed. Then I started using the fridge to lower it further after a few weeks.
 

jumanji2

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So I have the jars sitting at 63%,65%,66%. At this point I'm just going to leave them closed and burp em for 15 minutes a day till they get to 60. I'm running a low odor strain of pck though and it still has that crap hay smell to it. It also feels dry. I also want to add some fruit peels to enhance it a bit. Can anyone share at what point and how to add them?
 

simon

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My experience with fruit peel is that it temporarily flavors the smell of the entire jar, but the flowers themselves, once aerated, don't maintain the aroma. Can't hurt to give it a try, as long as you make sure the flowers don't get too moist, and see what you think. Ultimately, I agree with the guys posting below. Good luck.

Simon
 
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mad librettist

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also remember - when you read about people curing for just a few weeks, that will certainly smooth things out, but it won't be optimal for some time.


that mandala 1 that is just starting to smell has been smooth smoke for quite some time, I'd say since around when the buds got lighter in color. Someone just like me might be telling someone curing takes a month, but what exactly does that mean? Your idea of cured and my idea of cured might differ. Then you get the impression the advice is bad, but really it's confusion of terms.
 

greenops

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Update:

My buds are in jars since last week of July. Until mid August the RH was between 65-67%. I got it finally down to 63% by end of August. Does that mean that the curing process just started at that point when it dropped below 65%?
The AK48 still has that hay smell. The Skunk#1 smells better in the jar, but when holding the buds under my nose, it almost has no smell.
 

THC123

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you shouldnt have kept in in the 65-67 range so long that messes it up

You have to get it at 64-65 asap , above 65% is a good way to get all sorts of molds and ruining taste and aroma

Sounds like your ambient RH is too high.

I always put one caliber in my living room so i know if i can open a jar.

I always make sure the air going in has a lower Rh tne the air in the jar. This is also something that ruins taste and aroma.

Lately i just turn on the dehumidifier for like 4 minutes , after it is running decently i open the jars under the exhaust of the dehuey.

I do this cuz the ambient Rh here is 60-80% in summer :s

So i look at the caliiber in the jar and before closing the jar i make sure the RH on that caliber was at leadt 10degrees lower.


This way they slowly dry over time
 

rrog

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I always put one caliber in my living room so i know if i can open a jar.

I always make sure the air going in has a lower Rh than the air in the jar. This is also something that ruins taste and aroma.

That's a good point about technique. I also have a Caliber on my workbench.

While possible, I wouldn't have thought you'd see much mold below 68% Rh.
 

igrowone

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That's a good point about technique. I also have a Caliber on my workbench.

While possible, I wouldn't have thought you'd see much mold below 68% Rh.

i've a dozen or so cures with this method, so not as expert as some others
but i've found that even a bit over 70% works well, no mold ever seen
good odors and flavors, but then, it's always hard to say it couldn't have been better
 

mad librettist

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the closer you can get to a very slow dry without growing mold, the better the cure, for sure, but I get the feeling he says 65% so that people who push the fence and people who are conservative both get good results.


if he said 70% people would go to 75


the thread title is a perfect cure EVERY time, and I have to say, this is a thread that delivers. A great mystery has been unraveled and decoded without ruining it. Simon should be beatified at the least and sainthood should be considered. Did Pope John Paul ever come up with a thread this good? No! And look how far he is getting.
 
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rrog

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One of the best posts in this thread!

My opinion is that once you're below 70%, you're out of that danger zone, so only then do I jar and seal. I like to use the water and O2 to do it's curing thing.

Then over the next weeks and months I bring it down to 60%. So far no mold and nice cured bud. I used to leave it moister at 65%, but now that I vape instead of combust I need it more dry
 

greenops

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you shouldnt have kept in in the 65-67 range so long that messes it up

You have to get it at 64-65 asap , above 65% is a good way to get all sorts of molds and ruining taste and aroma

Sounds like your ambient RH is too high.

I always put one caliber in my living room so i know if i can open a jar.

I always make sure the air going in has a lower Rh tne the air in the jar. This is also something that ruins taste and aroma.

Lately i just turn on the dehumidifier for like 4 minutes , after it is running decently i open the jars under the exhaust of the dehuey.

I do this cuz the ambient Rh here is 60-80% in summer :s

So i look at the caliiber in the jar and before closing the jar i make sure the RH on that caliber was at leadt 10degrees lower.


This way they slowly dry over time

yes, the ambient RH here was between 60%-70%.
I always thought drying it slow is a good thing?

I hear from a lot of growers telling me i dried my buds for too long. I dried them for 6 days, thats when most stems started to crack/snap. They say, I should have dried for about 3 days, until the outside of the buds feel dry.
>>> When I put the buds in the jar after 6 days drying, the RH was above 68%.. Is that an indication of overdrying?
 

THC123

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Hey simon a quick question


SO yesterday i smoked a joint of some 5 month cured trainwreck at 59% RH

A month ago it was okay


I opened it yesterday and the smell was divine and the bud was perfect.

It smoked like a dream and was very very potent. I had to smoke the joint in 3 takes and it totally knocked me out. I even dare to say it was one of the best joints i ever smoked taste and effect wise

But before smokin it i tried the same weed in the vape.

In the vape i get really thin vape , not as cloudy as with non cured weed. And it was honestly nothing special. The taste was also weak

But when smoked it was da bomb , nothing but taste and effect totally narcotic ,


How can this be? Normally vaping always gives me a better effect + taste then smoking


I am trying to understand the logic behind it. Especially the fact that the vapor is so thin with cured weed , it is like drinking whine with water

I love this curing method for smoking joints , but i would like to change it a bit so that it also becomes ideal for vaping weed , i mean how can it be that something is jsut amazing to smoke and just mediocre in a vaporizer?


Maybe someone else can chime in(a vaping person)
 
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igrowone

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i vape my cured weed, but i never smoke anymore, so comparison of the 2 isn't really possible
i'd guess you're not getting all the product out of the bud
when i vape, i recrumble the dried bud after the 1st round to expose the inner bud
i've always found vaping to be very efficient
 

THC123

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We're talking bout the volcano classic on 5.5 to max 6



i've always found vaping to be very efficient

me too except with buds using this curing method


it smokes perfectly(thank you simon) and smells + looks great just in the vape it is weak

taste wise , thin vapor + effect doesnt come through
 

igrowone

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i don't understand why you are having this result, other than the cured buds have a good deal more moisture content than 'dry' buds
so you may have to be more patient in puffing
 

rrog

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Not sure. This isn't a different "curing method." There is mainly only air cure and water cure. Simon's technique is simply to monitor the humidity as it drops, but this is still a standard air cure. All components (THC, CBD, CBN) still vaporize at the same temps.

This bud may have a different flavanoid / turpene profile that makes it taste different at that temp.
 

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