The growing large plants, outdoors, thread...

[guest8905]

As I'm 90% sure it was cultural practices encouraging a latent fungi, I'm not doing much about the remainder other than watching for signs on adjacent plants. I still don't believe in dumping any single fungus (streptomyces, etc) on the beds in an effort to eradicate another. For me, it's about balance and encouraging one over another just doesn't seem in line with what I'm trying to accomplish. A natural equilibrium should be what we are striving towards...

On a different note, anyone used SNS-217 during flower? I am super hesitant, but the mites are really running this year. The lead scientist at Sierra Natural says it dissipates in 3-6 days outdoors, but it's an oil and I don't want my patients smoking anything in the final product. Leaning towards an H2O2 spray right now...

I have also been seeing lots of stem rot and bad fungi/pathogens ect.

also seeing the outdoor mite borg like punk that seems to be around a lot this year.

Butte- Something ive been working with is a granular neem powder that is a concentrate. It is in powder form, around 1 teaspoon a gallon required with a wetting agent as well. Works really well, can be used up to a few days within harvest (although imo thats too close to harvest) but it leaves no oilly residue, more of just a powerful neem liquid. Goes into the atomizer as well. Ill go look at the package and edit this post with the name of the product sorry im not surte of the name and dont want to just make one up haha). Havent heard of sns217 though. oily residue sounds bad imo as well.

edit (the product is a Granular Neem Concentrate by Vital Earth.link http://www.vitallandscaping.com/index.php/pest-control

I agree with you also as tryng to reach a microlife balance, not one thing overtaking all other.


happy growing

 

[turtle farmer]

Butte- I've been using SNS-217 and the rest of their whole line up for two years.
the 217 is ALL I use near the end of flowering,indoor and out... IF its needed.
I cant say enough good things about the SNS line..
great gardens by the way to everyone....happy harvests to all..
peace

 

[Yes4Prop215]

damn all this talk of fungas and mites is getting me paranoid lol...we had a few mites in when they were only 2-3 feet and nuked them all and for the most part we havent seen too many just isolated groups on certain plants....been using SNS17 it seems to do the trick but im gonna mix it up with some of the other recomendations...any one tried that Zero Tolerance stuff i see it alot of the local shops.....


i also have not been adding any Mycostop or root fungi besides GH subculture and root excel....so hoping i dont have any problems with root rot.

 

[Dr. Purpur]

GotAnyHaze?

GotAnyHaze?

 

[Ganja D]

Looks hazy Dr.P.
I got this hazy lady. Hope it finishes one day,pic is from about a week ago,seems like in grows 6 inches in every direction every day.

 

[Yes4Prop215]

What are yall using for pesticides....just hit half the garden with the monterey spinosad based agent and gonna dump a bunch of lady bugs in there next week...wondering how some of yall manage to spray such huge gardens its been kinda tough hitting up my smalller ones the fogmaster Jr is just too small for the job...gotta pony up and get a 16 gal sprayer like the rest of you guys...having more of a thrip problem instead of spider mites...

 

[guest8905]

yesforprop215- what works well for me is a atomizer with some mods. I dont use the atomizer reservoir, just the sprayer. I attach a 100 ft aftermarket hose to the tube going up to the sprayer then to a large drum and use that as my resevoir, there for i dont just get two gallons per batch but as much as i want. Have been using a 5 galloner for the neem concentrate. It nice to not have to refill all the time and i can walk around the garden without hauling a batch of shit on my back or on my arm, i just roll with the light wieght atomizer top haha

 

[nomaad]

16 gallon ATV sprayer. i use em on 4 wheel garden cart with battery... or, as intended, u can strap em to the back of an atv.

 

[Bonesrv]

I enjoy this thread and have been following it for a year now and have applied it my growing indoors and outside. I started growing this last year indoors. A number of people, I know have always put outdoors what they could, after Memorial Day, much like my vegetables. Last year I was reading this thread and saw the term "black box" come up.

Is there a thread that might show the technique? I'm guessing you get an early harvest, also I read its a solution if she's flowering early to go ahead and finish her. How do you do it?

 

[nomaad]

you just pull a lightproof tarp over the plants (with some kind of structure to support it- like a hoop house) at 8pm and uncover it at 8am. Or any variation to that basic 12/12 cycle. Some kind of air exchange while covered is a good idea.

 

[FillthePotmore]

Ingenious!

Ingenious!

Stickky:

what works well for me is a atomizer with some mods. I dont use the atomizer reservoir, just the sprayer. I attach a 100 ft aftermarket hose to the tube going up to the sprayer then to a large drum and use that as my resevoir, there for i dont just get two gallons per batch but as much as i want. Have been using a 5 galloner for the neem concentrate. It nice to not have to refill all the time and i can walk around the garden without hauling a batch of shit on my back or on my arm, i just roll with the light wieght atomizer top haha

Nomad:

16 gallon ATV sprayer. i use em on 4 wheel garden cart with battery

You two just made my night! What ingenious ideas... Stickky - I'm rigging mine the same way in the morning. I've been atomizing this and that with regular intervals on a steep incline with a generator for power... Seen the chiropractor seven times this season due to strenuous days of work! Between earlier foliar nitrogen and brix feeds to, Calcium 25, Azaltrol, Dr. Bronners, and Spinosad - I'm stoked on your methods. Now I can enjoy the sunsets while I work! Blessings...

 

[Yes4Prop215]

nice...yea in the vineyard they use the ATV sprayers...my garden isnt big enough of that but we are also thinking abuot just filling the 100 gal reservoir with the solution and running the sprayer from there instead of the tank...

 

[Midnight]

you just pull a lightproof tarp over the plants (with some kind of structure to support it- like a hoop house) at 8pm and uncover it at 8am. Or any variation to that basic 12/12 cycle. Some kind of air exchange while covered is a good idea.

Air exchange cannot be stressed enough with this technique. I just saw a very large garden yesterday that someone did this and did not take humidity into account. About 1/3 to 1/2 of said crop molded like you would not believe. They said they were going to make hash out of it, I don't think I'd smoke any of it after what I saw.

 

[guest8905]

You two just made my night! What ingenious ideas... Stickky - I'm rigging mine the same way in the morning. I've been atomizing this and that with regular intervals on a steep incline with a generator for power... Seen the chiropractor seven times this season due to strenuous days of work! Between earlier foliar nitrogen and brix feeds to, Calcium 25, Azaltrol, Dr. Bronners, Sovran, and Spinosad - I'm stoked on your methods. Now I can enjoy the sunsets while I work! Blessings...

Yes it gets old i have to agree! Especially when the stupid res kept leaking on my shirt when i carried it. Glad you found that helpful. enjoy your sunsets!


ganja d- Nice haze bro! hope she finishes, you could always build a nice gh around her if she isnt done by halloween haha

turtle farmer- hope all is well bro, hope to catch you at the cup?

dr. purp- nice haze as well. truly some thin blade.

Anybody making seeds this year? I have some friends working on a few projects. Would love to hear what others are working on

stay safe

 

[nomaad]

Light deps are down and I am very pleased with the results. here are a couple of nug shots... the first is the Fire OG taken at 65 days. Even without a cure, the smell and flavor is AAA... perhaps my best work to date.

This is the OGxJolly Rancher clone. I have smoked it in the past and been very happy with the strain, but i have never had a sample with the flavor and smell that this batch has. I have been waiting to see what this cut renders in my program and I am ecstatic. It finishes as early as 52 days, has the flavor and smell of the OG with something extra funky coming along with it, and... it get as big as fast as you'd like it to to really maximize the soil mass of a 200+ gallon pot.

Oh yeah... it also trims easier than just about anything I grow. The samples in the photos are finger trimmed for the most part.

And regarding air exchange- I had no mold problems from lack of air exchange, but there was an issue with foxtailing. I might have had more mold issues, but we stopped covering after about 5 weeks. I was going to use ventilation this year, but i had pots fuill and plugged before i realized that if i had fans going without having covered the ground with heavy duty weed mat, I would have had a dust storm in there every night. next year, I'll get my program straight.

 

[guest8905]

impressive bro. Your fire looks nice and the jolly rancher looks even better


props

 

[nomaad]

Thanks... the finger trim on the Fire is a little insufficient... once trimmers get their hands on it, I'm hoping for a little less shagginess. But i don;t think the OGJR is going to need to be touched by a scissor.

 

[Madhemp]

Nomaad Very nice! I got drool on my keyboard.

 

[bonecarver_OG]

fore once in my life i got something to share with ya all tree growers.

i gave some beans to a few mates a couple months back.

this is what they have done this far! i gotto say i take my hat of for these mates giving an oportunity reprezenting SOUTH spain finally, even if its a scandinavian/spanish thing going on!

3 meters tall, main stem is wide as a leg

here we go

hi bone im back!
this is bonecarvers SSH/PTK x Beeniemans choise grown outside in the ground using bio canna nutes. its about 2 weeks into flowering and its just getting massive.
the guy had made wooden beams to make roof but the plants are abit to tall for that so all that work he was so proud of bombed.
its one of the fastest growing plants i have ever grown.
we put em out 2 months ago then they where 40 cm.
l.

il be posting pics as flower hits in. stay tuned
peace

 

[Dr. Purpur]

Buds Away!

Buds Away!

The Black boxed plants are curing now. The bud was tip tip shelf grade of Headband and LA Confidential. Im smoking a fatty right now.