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new spidermite killer

MIway

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well i sprayed all of my plants down yesterday evening. i started by just taking a few leaves off here and there and spraying them individually to see how the mites would react. ill have to say that it sure stops them in their tracks. they pretty much instantly stop moving once being sprayed. after testing those leaves i sprayed every plant, top to bottom, top and bottom of leaves. today i checked on everyone and i couldnt find one spider mite that survived the onslaught. ill spray again in 4 days just to be 100% sure everything is taken care of. ill check for anymore signs of mites in the next few days until the re-ap and let yall know whats goin on. :wave:


fdf... how u doing bro? hope all is well.

if you still have the ability to spot apply... will you try out an experiment for me??? basically, mix up a solution of pH 3.5~4.0... just plain ole water, with pH down. spray a little bit of that on the mites, and let us know what happens...???

this stuff measured out really low in pH from the bottle... and one of the old time measures was to spray low pH water to kill back bugs & even molds. curious to see if this is what they are piggy backing on as well.
 

Ganja baba

Active member
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Torque, talstar in spain is the best one time spider mite killer i have used, with wetting agent it has nailed them every time for me. Veg only, and as with most,gloves and a good mask, it is nasty.

In flower, C02 fire extinguishers work, just do not overdo it and freeze the plant.

Having seen outdoor buds survive 6" of rain in an hour I would also now try spraying seriously infested crops with plain water on the undersides of leaves to blast off or drown a large %.

in Veg too this works a treat, stick in 1/4 strength nutes as a foliar feed, every other day. If you do not put any nutes in,it will leach some out of the plant... just add wetting agent and off you go. Call me a savage, but outdoors, blasting plants with a garden hose every other day is amazingly effective. just like a thunderstorm, but from underneath.

Now a semi reformed character, I have a20L Matabi backpack sprayer, brilliant kit, £50 very well spent. You will never skimp on the job, it is safer to use than cheap sprayers,honestly, it is such a joy to use it has turned a chore into fun.

torque is highly dangerous . it will give you cancer , read up and were protetive clothing , masks so on
 

foomar

Luddite
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The optimum size for insecticide spray droplets is that size which gives maximum control of the target insect with minimum insecticide and minimum ecosystem contamination. Spray droplets found to be efficient in delivery of insecticide to the target insect are those with size range allowing them to be airborne and to be transported to the target by atmospheric transport and diffusion. Therefore, optimum-size droplets are those sizes small enough to be produced in maximum numbers for maximum coverage and large enough to have an optimum critical impingement velocity for optimum impingement on the target insect.

Field research data which trace the point of deposition of spray droplets by size in insect ecosystems have been obtained from the fluorescent particle spray droplet tracer method. Data obtained indicate that the optimum size for insecticide spray droplets is in the range of 20µ diameter. No data were found that spray droplets larger than 100µ diameter have any substantial probability of efficient delivery of insecticide to the target insect or to its proximate foliage (where spray residues could act by secondary foliage contact). Spray droplets of 50-100µ diameter were marginal in efficiency.

20 micron is a very fine mist that most hand and pump sprayers will not achieve , particle size is very important and overlooked , most sprays are knocking mites off physically but not delivering the chems.

A quality knapsack sprayer with the correct nozzle is ideal , last for decades if maintained , nasty chinese imports best avoided.
For a small grow an old perfume atomizer from a boot fair is perfect.

With the correct mist even soapy water is very effective or it allows the minimal dose of chems to work.
 

smokefrogg

Active member
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going to pick some of this up tomorrow, hope it works, i thought we had it under control and the blueberry is so close, it's starting to web up argh, hope this works!
 
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chefro420

fdf... how u doing bro? hope all is well.

if you still have the ability to spot apply... will you try out an experiment for me??? basically, mix up a solution of pH 3.5~4.0... just plain ole water, with pH down. spray a little bit of that on the mites, and let us know what happens...???

this stuff measured out really low in pH from the bottle... and one of the old time measures was to spray low pH water to kill back bugs & even molds. curious to see if this is what they are piggy backing on as well.


I was wondering that too. Citric acid is one of the active ingredients in liquid ladybug . Is the rinse , just a higher ph water?
 

smokefrogg

Active member
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they had quarts of it for $15 so i picked one up

i went ahead and sprayed everything, it's been about 2 hours now, ladybugs and praying mantises are still alive, when i get super close i see the spider mite dots but none are moving, when i looked this morning it was like a superhighway for mites lol. i just checked it right now with a magnifying glass and i see zero movement, lots of little fuckers, but none of them moving about.

we were warned early in this thread about cleaning up the webs first, this seems like common sense, of course i did not heed this warning, lol, to my dismay it appears that the webbing has melted or at least something like that, it looks like little pieces of clear plastic tiny pieces here and there where web concentration was somewhat high, DOH!

i'll spray again in a day or 2, then again in another day or 2, seems to really be doing the trick, lots of these are flowering and everyone seems just fine and dandy about it, i sprayed the outside plants as well and hit them right in the middle of the day, i'm at 34*n and it's pretty hot and sunny! but nothing seems burned or pissed off, everything looks great so far...

thanks to op for bringing this up!
 

smokefrogg

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are those webs on top of the buds smokefrogg? if so get your vacuum cleaner out and suck the fuckers off.
 

stgermain

Member
great news mate, just had mites myself. have sprayed with some stuff called dynamite, and plant vitality plus. seem to have worked, but will defo try the mighty wash out if this don't do the job.

the difference is plant vitality plus is a poison! whereas mighty wash contains no nasty chemicals....
 

smokefrogg

Active member
Veteran
are those webs on top of the buds smokefrogg? if so get your vacuum cleaner out and suck the fuckers off.

this is after spraying, i was trying to show that it appears to have "melted" the webs. part of my rant in the post above the pics was about how i should have cleaned up the webs BEFORE applying this shit lol
 

foomar

Luddite
ICMag Donor
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the difference is plant vitality plus is a poison! whereas mighty wash contains no nasty chemicals....

Apart from the water they are not saying what chemicals are in it , nasty or harmless , like to know exactly what i am useing on the precious.

Will have to buy some and get an analysis done to satisfy my curiosity , local water company do it for free if i claim it came out of the tap , might freak them out a bit.
 
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cheesey

Apart from the water they are not saying what chemicals are in it , nasty or harmless , like to know exactly what i am useing on the precious.

Will have to buy some and get an analysis done to satisfy my curiosity , local water company do it for free if i claim it came out of the tap , might freak them out a bit.

dont think your water company will test it . its pink like milk shake lol
 

foomar

Luddite
ICMag Donor
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Have an ongoing dispute with ST regarding water quality , last sample i sent in was pH 9.5 with 300+ mg/litre of carbonate , reeked of chlorine and pale white , tasted disgusting.

Mighty wash sounds like an improvement and probably tastes better.

The letter stated this was well within EU standards and suggested i pay for my own borehole or well if i wanted better.

Shame its pink , sounds like the mouthwash at the dentist , has anyone tasted it ?
 

farmdalefurr

I feel nothing and it feels great
Veteran
my guy at the shop talked to the company who makes this stuff and from what he says, its safe to drink the stuff. i really hope no body does that, but, its just what i heard. i tasted a bit that was on my finger when i sprayed the other week and it didnt really have a taste that i could notice
 

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