Dead Room Syndrome?

[RetroGrow]

Anyone ever hear this expression? Was talking with an associate about my 2 year battle with disease in my grow room. Don't know what it is, but I do know that I can't get rid of it, hence had to shut down everything. Despite all my cleaning and disinfecting, filtering the air and doing everything else I could think of, plants would get infected by the second week. Even tried different room in the house but same thing happens. Lower leaves get brown spots and fall off. This works it's way up the plant, leaves get twisted, plants get stunted or stop growing all together.
Don't know if it's a virus or spore based, but I do know I can't get rid of it. When I heard "dead room syndrome", I thought well that pretty much sums it up. The room and all other rooms are dead zones. The only cure is to move. Googling "dead room syndrome" comes up with nothing.
Anyone else experience this?

 

[indalo]

are u getting ur soil from the same supplier every grow ? If that is the case, u could have been "importing" ur probs.

 

[RetroGrow]

are u getting ur soil from the same supplier every grow ? If that is the case, u could have been "importing" ur probs.

No. Impossible. I use coco and hempy buckets with perlite. No way disease is coming from perlite.
This is a disease that is impossible to eradicate.

 

[PuReKnOwLeDgE]

Not using any NGW hose in there are you? I wouldn't be able to accept defeat, I would have your medium, air, water all tested. Any pictures of this? Something is offgassing, something in your room doesn't belong, that is my guess. I want more detail about this so we can help something isn't right.

Have you tryed Physan 20? It is a viruscide, fugicide, algeacide, basteriacide, if you clean with that, have fresh disinfected medium and pots, everything in the room and your tools disinfected as well, and still see something it cannot be disease.

I searched dead room syndrome and came up empty handed as well and I have never heard of it. There has to be something around fuding shit up. Tell us about where your fresh air comes from to we need to know whats is going on in and around.

 

[Stress_test]

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I agree. There is no disease or virus or anything that would kill a clean, sealed room. I could grow weed in the middle of a chemical waste dump with a sealed room and bottled water.

I think yer a quitter or just plain lazy, or somebody is poisoning your gear. Ya gave up too easy.

Go get a bag of potting soil and a pot and plant a seed, see if it grows in the window sill. If a leaf lettuce seed will sprout and grow away from your gear then it's your gear that's killin your plants. Or somebody is poisoning your gear. Either way you'll know, cause any idiot can grow leaf lettuce and nobody would even think to poison one since there's no reason.

But "IF" a lettuce won't grow? I'd damn sure be moving. Like "I'll let ya know where to send my stuff" cause if it's killing plants in a sealed room then I sure don't want any contact with it. Imagine if it was the water?

But it sounds like sabotage to me.

No matter what, I would know exactly what is killing the plants. I would just have to know and couldn't stop until I found the cause and solution.

 

[cyat]

probably that pesticide u use it fucked my plants! try soil sm90 and 2in1 or bugbgone. c.i.k is terrible for plants and it doesnt work
I now have healthy plant syndrome
bayer complete insect killer is plant killer too
have fun with that

 

[turbo300]

mosaic virus?

 

[ReelBusy1]

Anyone ever hear this expression? Was talking with an associate about my 2 year battle with disease in my grow room. Don't know what it is, but I do know that I can't get rid of it, hence had to shut down everything. Despite all my cleaning and disinfecting, filtering the air and doing everything else I could think of, plants would get infected by the second week. Even tried different room in the house but same thing happens. Lower leaves get brown spots and fall off. This works it's way up the plant, leaves get twisted, plants get stunted or stop growing all together.
Don't know if it's a virus or spore based, but I do know I can't get rid of it. When I heard "dead room syndrome", I thought well that pretty much sums it up. The room and all other rooms are dead zones. The only cure is to move. Googling "dead room syndrome" comes up with nothing.
Anyone else experience this?

Did this always happen during the 3-5th week of flowering?

 

[messn'n'gommin']

Do you have legal house plants growing and thriving? A few years ago there was an off-gassing problem with drywall made in China, making people sick. Even without that, a relatively air-tight house will just recirculate whatever gasses are emitted by modern materials used to build the house. Just my but something to think about.

 

[growshopfrank]

had a room that was producing poor crops eventually found that when the exhaust fan was running it was drawing air up through the floor drain and believe me sewer gas will truly fuck up a crop

 

[The Baphomet]

Sounds like the virus we just had , spent a whole year trying to figure it out . Do your plants get worse when you start to flower and do the pistils die back ? We had to get rid of all the plants and we had to clean the whole place with bleach and repaint the place . The virus was spread by mites and fungus gnats and also in our ezcloner . We got a virus test kit and all plants tested positive for mosaic . Sorry that you have to deal with this I know how frustrating it is . Do you have any pics of the plants ?

 

[RetroGrow]

Not using any NGW hose in there are you? I wouldn't be able to accept defeat, I would have your medium, air, water all tested. Any pictures of this? Something is offgassing, something in your room doesn't belong, that is my guess. I want more detail about this so we can help something isn't right.

Have you tryed Physan 20? It is a viruscide, fugicide, algeacide, basteriacide, if you clean with that, have fresh disinfected medium and pots, everything in the room and your tools disinfected as well, and still see something it cannot be disease.

I searched dead room syndrome and came up empty handed as well and I have never heard of it. There has to be something around fuding shit up. Tell us about where your fresh air comes from to we need to know whats is going on in and around.

No NGW, don't use it. I use either coco or hempy buckets with 80% perlite, 20% vermiculite. It's not offgassing, as it happens even when I remove them from the grow room and start in another room. Plenty of ventilation.
I have sprayed Physan numerous time on everything before each grow: walls, floors, all equipment still no help. Also have shut room down for 6 months and disinfected after & before starting up again. And I didn't just give up, but after 2 years of trying, it's become apparent that a new location is the only answer I have come up with.
I have posted pix in a couple other threads.
It's definitely a disease, as aspirin helps plants to recover, but yield and quality are affected negatively. Some strains do better than others, like Critical+, but my AK47s can't deal with it and turn out tasting like crap and having no potency.
Here's a couple of pix:

Note: these plants would have died without aspirin, and it is definitely not a PH problem.
For unknown reasons, Critical+ is the only strain so far that have come out decent, but only with aspirin.
I believe it's spore based, but that is just my best guess. I do have HEPA air filters, but they have not stopped it.
Water is bottled, RO and spring water mixed. Cal-mag added as needed.
Also note: before this problem began, no problems in that room, and nothing has changed there. Before this problem began, I did have a grow using wick system for watering as I was out of town for awhile, and it began after that grow. That's why I suspect it's a spore based disease.
Again, I have tried other rooms in the house with same result. Babies show problems by second week.

 

[RetroGrow]

I think yer a quitter or just plain lazy, or somebody is poisoning your gear. Ya gave up too easy.

Sorry, not a quitter or lazy, and no one is poisoning my gear for certain. No one has access but me.
Also tried other rooms. Same thing happens.

 

[RetroGrow]

probably that pesticide u use it fucked my plants! try soil sm90 and 2in1 or bugbgone. c.i.k is terrible for plants and it doesnt work
I now have healthy plant syndrome
bayer complete insect killer is plant killer too
have fun with that

What pesticide?
Didn't use any.

 

[RetroGrow]

Did this always happen during the 3-5th week of flowering?

No. Starts showing by two week mark on seedlings.

 

[RetroGrow]

Sounds like the virus we just had , spent a whole year trying to figure it out . Do your plants get worse when you start to flower and do the pistils die back ? We had to get rid of all the plants and we had to clean the whole place with bleach and repaint the place . The virus was spread by mites and fungus gnats and also in our ezcloner . We got a virus test kit and all plants tested positive for mosaic . Sorry that you have to deal with this I know how frustrating it is . Do you have any pics of the plants ?

Could be a virus. Haven't ruled that out. In addition to spots, I do get twisted leaves and growth is stunted. Aspirin knocks it back though, which is why I know it's disease.
Also forgot to mention, took 4 plants that were started in another room in the house and stuck them outside, and they also got sick with same symptoms, so that eliminates any offgassing problem.

Sorry about so many replies, but haven't figured out how to quote multiple people in the same post yet.

 

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Sorry about so many replies, but haven't figured out how to quote multiple people in the same post yet.

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[RetroGrow]

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Almost 1500 posts & I still haven't figured that out yet......

 

[Herborizer]

See sig about off gassing. It's not just NGW hoses.

I had dead room syndrome. It was off gassing. It's a bad bad bad thing.

 

[RetroGrow]

Interesting about the hoses.
I wish that was my problem because then at least I would know what it was. But I have no hoses or tubing of any kind.