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mugenbao
I'm very interested to see how that moss works out. Please keep us updated 
Mulch. Just do it.
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Will do mugenbao,
From what I've read and what Mad said, moss doesn't do well with nutes. A couple of gardening books I have indicate the best way to control moss in your lawn is to fertilize, so we'll see. Since I dont top feed, it might work.
I've been lurking in your sweet tooth thread. Looking frosty, mate.
From what I've read and what Mad said, moss doesn't do well with nutes. A couple of gardening books I have indicate the best way to control moss in your lawn is to fertilize, so we'll see. Since I dont top feed, it might work.
I've been lurking in your sweet tooth thread. Looking frosty, mate.
If it goes there, it'll get the yanky yanky.
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I am gonna try to compile what we know so far about living mulch candidates. corrections appreciated.
microclover: this variety of dutch white clover is very hard to come by, but perfect for any size container. sow it thick. see dutch white clover for details.
dutch white clover: suitable for all but the smallest containers. White clover is a nitrogen fixer under the right conditions. It does a good job shading the soil and does not interfere with cannabis growth, rooting, or germination. Spreads by above ground stolons, and forms a mat of shallow roots. Can be used alone for increased bio-activity at soil surface, water management, and as green manure. Can host some of the same mycorhizae as cannabis. Tolerates some mowing if well established.
crimson clover: suitable for 5 gallon containers and up. tap-rooted. Forms a thick carpet that creates a nanoclimate from the soil surface up about 6 inches. Same compatibility with cannabis as other clovers. does not do well with mowing. Crimson clover flowers when the day becomes longer than 12 hours.
chickweed - chickweed should be sown very sparingly in larger containers. great with crimson clover. perfect for chop and drop to feed your soil.
chamomile - definitely harmless.
yarrow: yarrow seems to be a good companion for cannabis but does not do especially well under lights.
purslane - harmless but does not do well under lights
squash: squash should be chopped and dropped as they shade too much soil. squash as a companion should be reserved for the very largest containers and outdoor cultivation in the ground
microclover: this variety of dutch white clover is very hard to come by, but perfect for any size container. sow it thick. see dutch white clover for details.
dutch white clover: suitable for all but the smallest containers. White clover is a nitrogen fixer under the right conditions. It does a good job shading the soil and does not interfere with cannabis growth, rooting, or germination. Spreads by above ground stolons, and forms a mat of shallow roots. Can be used alone for increased bio-activity at soil surface, water management, and as green manure. Can host some of the same mycorhizae as cannabis. Tolerates some mowing if well established.
crimson clover: suitable for 5 gallon containers and up. tap-rooted. Forms a thick carpet that creates a nanoclimate from the soil surface up about 6 inches. Same compatibility with cannabis as other clovers. does not do well with mowing. Crimson clover flowers when the day becomes longer than 12 hours.
chickweed - chickweed should be sown very sparingly in larger containers. great with crimson clover. perfect for chop and drop to feed your soil.
chamomile - definitely harmless.
yarrow: yarrow seems to be a good companion for cannabis but does not do especially well under lights.
purslane - harmless but does not do well under lights
squash: squash should be chopped and dropped as they shade too much soil. squash as a companion should be reserved for the very largest containers and outdoor cultivation in the ground
descivii
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Hey Mad,
Funny you brought that up cause my wifi card went down again but my girl just got a laptop last night so I'm gonna be tryin to get some updated pics up. Kids nappin, this is perfect time so off I go. I'll post some pics of my living mulch as well as update my own thread.
Funny you brought that up cause my wifi card went down again but my girl just got a laptop last night so I'm gonna be tryin to get some updated pics up. Kids nappin, this is perfect time so off I go. I'll post some pics of my living mulch as well as update my own thread.
Mad L
Did you plant the clover from seed? What kind of clover? (I did an Amazon search -- probably not the best source for seeds -- and the response for "Micro clover seeds" turned up a Red Clover, ..?
yes I am doing everything from seed so far.
microclover is probably a no go until next year, unfortunately. It got snapped up by the turf market, because it is very good for ballfields.
what size containers are you running?
also, I just yanked a crimson clover specimen out of a no-till container that did not rest and is now hosting a seedling. The tap root is about 4 inches, and the branching roots show extensive nodulation. the nodules are light colored and numerous.
microclover is probably a no go until next year, unfortunately. It got snapped up by the turf market, because it is very good for ballfields.
what size containers are you running?
also, I just yanked a crimson clover specimen out of a no-till container that did not rest and is now hosting a seedling. The tap root is about 4 inches, and the branching roots show extensive nodulation. the nodules are light colored and numerous.
Well, .. I'm about to shut down the organic situation for the time being, though I'm going to have a bunch of herbs (right-handed ones) inside this winter, ..
Doing this next run DWC because I've got a bunch of free nutes, but I expect to be going back to an organic deal after this run, ..
The micro clover seems like a fantastic idea, .. I've actually got a couple clover volunteers in the same 1 gal smartpot as my Headband, .. Nothing like yours, though.
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descivii
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Hey All,
Again, bare with me on these ipod pics. Everything is looking good but they certainly don't dominate, I don't let them. I cut the "mulch" back when it reaches about 4" tall. I just leave it on the soil surface and usually crumble it up later when it has thoroughly dried.
Again, bare with me on these ipod pics. Everything is looking good but they certainly don't dominate, I don't let them. I cut the "mulch" back when it reaches about 4" tall. I just leave it on the soil surface and usually crumble it up later when it has thoroughly dried.
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well, i just had to try this for my little fall project. no-till, there used to be a tomato in there, now dug out and replaced with seedling of fem variety, maybe 5-6 days old. i'll put a update pic maybe within a week to show it manages. standard white clover as cover crop, container is 30 litres or roughly 8 gallons. looks a bit yellow because of flash.
awesome unthing!
you are going to have to watch that one at this stage. The clover will enter that circle you have around your seedling. It's not a bad thing, just check everyday and chop anything that is growing too far into the circle until the seedling is taller. I see you have seeds in the circle, which is also good. Your eventual goal is total coverage.
So far this seems to work -
with seeds, sow directly into the clover bed, and when it sprouts clear a little circle around it (use snippers, don't pull)
with rooted clones, as long as the clone is taller than the clover you don't need to clear away an opening.
I feel the most important place to have your secondary plants is the very outer edge of a pot, especially a smart pot.
you are going to have to watch that one at this stage. The clover will enter that circle you have around your seedling. It's not a bad thing, just check everyday and chop anything that is growing too far into the circle until the seedling is taller. I see you have seeds in the circle, which is also good. Your eventual goal is total coverage.
So far this seems to work -
with seeds, sow directly into the clover bed, and when it sprouts clear a little circle around it (use snippers, don't pull)
with rooted clones, as long as the clone is taller than the clover you don't need to clear away an opening.
I feel the most important place to have your secondary plants is the very outer edge of a pot, especially a smart pot.
I certainly did not foresee this level of interest when I started the thread, although the concept now seems really obvious. But the fact is, nobody I know of was doing this indoors before the thread started.
There is still no guide to living mulches that can work for everyone. That will come as more and more people experiment and report their results. The next plant I am trying will be a true companion plant, not just a mulch.
So far, as companions, I have tried purslane (upright cultivar), chamomile, and yarrow. Up next is Lupinus albus, an N fixer known for dumping lots of citric acid into the soil.
There is still no guide to living mulches that can work for everyone. That will come as more and more people experiment and report their results. The next plant I am trying will be a true companion plant, not just a mulch.
So far, as companions, I have tried purslane (upright cultivar), chamomile, and yarrow. Up next is Lupinus albus, an N fixer known for dumping lots of citric acid into the soil.
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mugenbao
I agree with this intuitively, but was wondering if you'd expand on your reasoning here please.
I really love this thread! After trying clover as a living mulch, I'm pretty hooked, and quite satisfied with my results. Thanks for spreading the knowledge
