WHY DO SOME PEOPLE HAVE SO MUCH TROUBLE CLONING

[Bullfrog44]

Nobody uses Rapid Rooters? Great product, try if your having problems. At least 90% success rates for me, but I have a controlled environment.

 

[rick shaw]

There is an excellent article about cloning in this month's Max Yield.

'Hot Weather Cloning' by Casey Fraser

http://www.maximumyield.com/index.php

 

[Marlo]

I sucked at cloning for years. I was trying all kinds of methods with bad results.
Then I made a DIY cloner I found here on IC. NOW EVERYTHING ROOTS. E V E R Y T H I N G !!!

 

[gloryoskie]

Dammed if I know.....you tell me.

I once had a plant that was stubborn to clone. I used a 50/50 perlite/vermiculite mix, kept moist and warmed with a seed mat. All my other varieties cloned easily except this one stubborn Sensi Star.

So after a couple failed attempts, and some searching here at icmag, I tried that same plant with the plain water method, the sphagnum moss method, and aero, as well as the Rapid Rooters to find the best method for that plant. Plain tap water by the way.

So I say use a variety of methods to get the desired results. And never give up.

 

[nwcoast233]

year round cloning

year round cloning

Water filtration is a big factor when cloning. no matter what our water changes ppm and ph weather your on city, well, drawing out of the river.
i live in the northwest and have great access to clean mountain runnoff and city water. but, both i still willl filter simply for the sediment and everything else that can be picked up along the path your water travels.
Using carbon, sediment, and reverse osmoses water filtration. you leave your water stripped and ready for the expensive cloning nutes we buy.
using a rooting hormone is up to you, i like Vita Grow liquid rooting hormone out of portland oregon hehe
humidity and heat become the last two factors and im sure i have forgotten a few things with cloning... i had a couple oatmeal stouts thanks for readin

 

[farmdalefurr]

this is what i use. as simple as it gets imo. just a storage type box w/ 4 airstones in it. i use plain tap water that is pretty hard. something like 400 ppm. i have no idea what temp the water is at. the cloner is sitting of the outskirts of a 400w MH. when i see white nubs i throw in a few drops of superthrive and within a couple days i have vigorous roots. as mentioned earlier, some strains do take longer than others. ive had some that showed nubs in 7-8 days, some that took as long 15 or more.

 

[stihgnobevoli]

how does this thread even get this big? people have been cloning plants since the dawn of time successfully or else we would be extinct long ago, it should be in our dna by now.

 

[nwcoast233]

how does this thread even get this big? people have been cloning plants since the dawn of time successfully or else we would be extinct long ago, it should be in our dna by now.

Lets here it than. How do you successfully clone?

 

[stihgnobevoli]

i told you already up there, cut clone and put in moist media cover and wait, keep warm lol. the end.

oh yeah put in partial light like a windowsill or under some low power light like fluorescents, depending on how close you can get the bulb you can power your whole cloner cabinet under 1 single cfl.

this is just a sideways foot locker with a single 23 watt duct taped to the ceiling, like a whole foot high maybe 1.5ft didn't even paint the thing, i was feeling real lazy that grow i guess...

reveg mom and some clones in dirt, and i dressed the top with some sphagnum i think or some kinda moss to help retain moisture and help my soil get wet. organic mix i worked up, needs more perlite for next time i decide to use it. no clonex, no bubblers, 100% germ. these were taken at mid or near end of flower.

 

[Stress_test]

My cloning method changes with the weather. I think that many growers just don't have the patience to experiment with different medium, temps, light, strains, water, cloning gels, and even the size of cuts.

Cloning is an art in a way. I know a lady who clones in dirt, with fairly small cuts and gets 100% every time, and has for the 12+ years I've known her. She will only cut and start clones 1 week either side of a full moon. Sounds odd maybe but she swears by it and I can't argue, it's as good of reason as any for her success rate.
I use various different cloning methods depending on the weather, how quickly they will be needed or how they will be grown, and a slew of other reasons such as a strain that's a real bitch to clone.

I helped with a seminar for a couple dispensaries a few months ago about cloning and grooming mother plants. It was educational to say the least... But it solidified an already firm belief that some people just can't catch on, even if they can run a veg or bloom room with perfect results; they just can't clone.

I'm the same way kinda. I'm pretty good with outdoor and running a nursery, cloning and grooming/training momma plants, but I haven't quite grasp the knack of the flowering room. I always fuck something up and burn em or starve em or something. But I'm a cloning MoFo. LOL... So I run my garden in such a way as to capitalize on my abilities and work to improve where I can. I can always trade clones for herb and there are thousands of folks who don't have the room, time, patience or desire to setup to clone and maintain mothers. Besides, it cuts into plant counts if you have to keep moms and clones going for the next run.

 

[ReelBusy1]

IMHO the most important "best practice" for successful cloning is cleanliness.
Clean tools, work area and grow space equal great results.

 

[Green lung]

Most important things is keeping your medium moist but not SOAKED.

I use dirty, dull scissors, rooting powder, scrape the stem, no dome, a cfl.
no dome helps a lot.

works every time.

 

[High Country]

Not sure either, I've seen many people on here root cuttings without rooting hormone. I've tried it and my cuttings won't root at all without it. They will go 2 sometimes even 3 months living before the white mold gets them and kills them. As soon as I started using rooting hormone, roots in 4-5 days. Thats using rockwool. I've tried using a bubble cloner and an aero cloner as well, same thing. I do like rockwool better though, less maintenance it seems.

I had seen so many people clone without the rooting hormone and they claimed it worked better than using it, I just assumed I didn't need it and the turnaround time in my flowering room has suffered immensely because of it.

So, just because it works for some people doesn't mean it works for everyone.

40 CLONES IN DIRT...NO CLONEX OR ROOTING HORMONE OF ANY KIND

ALL HAVE ROOTS

100% STRIKE RATE

Not saying there is anything wrong with clonex, I have certainly used it in the past.

No heat mat either.

Just stable temps, 24C or 75F....and a stable environment.

 

[headband 707]

Because there's no cloning sub-forum.

I thought JJ did somthing on cloning ?? and it's pretty good as I remember... Cloning will really depend on your clone some clones don't care about gel some need that extra push you just don't know which one is which till you try. Don't try and make your clones over 4 inches and use proper equiptment and you should be golden peace out Headband707

 

[Rowdy420]

Why do some folks have trouble walking and chewing gum? If you've never grown a house plant don't start with herb. When I first got started i had trouble with the cloning also but, if you've got the mentality of learn from your mistakes and never give up you'll end up finding something that will work for you. I've made cuts in rapid rooters, soiless mixes, home made cloners, a 120 site ez-cloner you name it and I've busted roots in it. The one piece of advice I'll pass along is lower the nitrogen in your mother plants before you plan on taking cuttings at least a few days before.

Good luck, Peace

 

[GDK]

Dammed if I know.....you tell me.

So....are u gonna show us...again?

EDIT: Too fast...you actually did.

Stay Safe

 

[High Country]

So....are u gonna show us...again?

EDIT: Too fast...you actually did.

Stay Safe

Here's some more.

SPHAGNUM MOSS

LET'S GET A FLOWERING LEAF TO PUT OUT ROOTS....OK

FREAKY...WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT

The leaf thing was done in plain old tap water.

CLONING IS FUN!

 

[GDK]

LOL

Stay Safe

 

[Duplicate]

how does this thread even get this big? people have been cloning plants since the dawn of time successfully or else we would be extinct long ago, it should be in our dna by now.

Because we like talking about weed. There are only so many thing you can say though. Eventually you just end up saying them again. Are you not a stoner? <3

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I'm the same way kinda. I'm pretty good with outdoor and running a nursery, cloning and grooming/training momma plants, but I haven't quite grasp the knack of the flowering room. I always fuck something up and burn em or starve em or something.

Hey that's pretty cool of you to say. I don't think a lot of people around here throw those kind of things out. I'm still a newb but because of so many setbacks I had to veg a ton of plants for a long time in a tiny spot so I got to do a lot of cutting, root pruning, training, bonsai, etc. It's just different in the veg room. The lights are nice, everything is growing well and then when flower time comes it's just like "OK, here comes the stress. I hope this shit works" LOL.

 

[High Country]

Because we like talking about weed. There are only so many thing you can say though. Eventually you just end up saying them again. Are you not a stoner? <3

Hey that's pretty cool of you to say. I don't think a lot of people around here throw those kind of things out. I'm still a newb but because of so many setbacks I had to veg a ton of plants for a long time in a tiny spot so I got to do a lot of cutting, root pruning, training, bonsai, etc. It's just different in the veg room. The lights are nice, everything is growing well and then when flower time comes it's just like "OK, here comes the stress. I hope this shit works" LOL.

Stick at it....you'll be right mate.