Any 1.5+ grams per Watt grows????

[HushemFlupskluk]

In reply to those who calculate only the poweruse of a part of the total power usage as a final result in GPW or KGPW. Calculate or use a KWH-meter to get to that real number of total powerusage. Then you divide the final Dry Net Weight with the Consumed KWH. The number that appears in GPKW (gramms per kilowatt hour) is the real production score of that round.

BTW very nice to read that some other growers here on the forums had 1,5+ GPW final results! Please tell us your secrets

 

[forkup]

It`s been my experience that the more smaller pre-vegged plants you can pack in a dialed room above , below , and side by side without em competing for light and environment with bare bulbs hanging will give the best bottom line returns time after time per run , per month , per yr......

DHFs quote above shows perhaps the easiest way to use the space to it's best advantage for max yield day in and day out. Theoretically you could use far fewer plants if you had near perfect canopy management skills and could efficiently cover the space in the same fashion as the clone to flower method. However it's obvious that's far easier said than done and more of a PITA.

 

[bobblehead]

DHFs quote above shows perhaps the easiest way to use the space to it's best advantage for max yield day in and day out. Theoretically you could use far fewer plants if you had near perfect canopy management skills and could efficiently cover the space in the same fashion as the clone to flower method. However it's obvious that's far easier said than done and more of a PITA.

Really, it would be a lot more difficult to use less plants with more veg time... Cause now you're talking about a large, concentrated root mass that needs managing... and all sort of stem before you even get to the bud sites...

More smaller plants in a coliseum, is like turning the plant inside out, and putting a light in the middle of it... You're just relocating all the branches to receive optimal light, and putting the individual root-zones outside the light zone, furthest away from the heat...

It's like stacking several horizontal grows on end, side by side by side...

putting roots in the same area as my buds? no thanks! Angled racks FTW.

 

[DHF]

The faster you can flip fully rooted , pre-vegged , pruned and trimmed monocrops that stretch patterns are known for canopy management means exactly what Bobbles is screamin.....

Why waste time growin stem when you`ve gotta chop it back when the time comes as the plants grow into each other cuz yas don`t know when to flip em to prevent such issues........

Ahhhhhh....Dialage...comes with runs under yer belt.....

Peace....DHF..........

 

[Canniwhatsis]

Really, it would be a lot more difficult to use less plants with more veg time... Cause now you're talking about a large, concentrated root mass that needs managing... and all sort of stem before you even get to the bud sites...

More smaller plants in a coliseum, is like turning the plant inside out, and putting a light in the middle of it... You're just relocating all the branches to receive optimal light, and putting the individual root-zones outside the light zone, furthest away from the heat...

It's like stacking several horizontal grows on end, side by side by side...

putting roots in the same area as my buds? no thanks! Angled racks FTW.

Personally I like SCROG for low plant count high yeild, by my estimate I'm currently only running about .75 GPW under 1k of HPS, but in theory i could flower my walkway as well and push it easily to 1.3 GPW.

I've based my guestimate off of totals from both indica and sativa's,... I could up the total GPW by running just heavy yielding indi strains......

Add to that that, that calculation is based on just flowering, and not the wattage it takes over 2 months of vege time to grow the 6 bushes that would be needed to fill the screen (9x4' room)

If you add that wattage in even a full room drops well under 1gpw

 

[Incognegro]

I personally think that GPW's biggest factor IS indeed the strain used. I've had some strains that just produce out the ass! Whereas some need a lil more coaxing, or just aren't big yielders at all...

To each his own, I've done a couple scrogs, but personally think it's a PITA to do all that training and crap to get what you want done... whereas LST seems to work better for me... esp since for about 8years I've run perpetual grows, so it's kinda hard to "train" a young plant in an already established screen.

Vert has it's pros and cons too. Most swear that you need high plant numbers to get the most outta it...again, all depends on the grower and other stipulations. In my part of the world, high numbers means the death penalty..so.... not everyone has the luxury to have "100s" of plants going at one time...

 

[bobblehead]

Personally I like SCROG for low plant count high yeild, by my estimate I'm currently only running about .75 GPW under 1k of HPS, but in theory i could flower my walkway as well and push it easily to 1.3 GPW.

I've based my guestimate off of totals from both indica and sativa's,... I could up the total GPW by running just heavy yielding indi strains......

Add to that that, that calculation is based on just flowering, and not the wattage it takes over 2 months of vege time to grow the 6 bushes that would be needed to fill the screen (9x4' room)

If you add that wattage in even a full room drops well under 1gpw

Over 2 months of veg? Wow...

I used to grow that way... But now my plants spend less than 1 month in veg.

My baseline goal for gpw only including flowering lamps, is 1.5gpw, shooting for 2.5-3. I don't care if you do add all my equipment, you're still not dropping me below 1gpw.

You can use any strain you like, the most efficient way to grow is smaller clones... Just don't get caught... And if your life is in danger, then don't take the risk. If you are going to take the risk, and you're already committing a felony, then you had best go balls to the walls and make it worth-while.

 

[Midnight]

All this mathin and calculatin is makin my head hurt. Just grow the damned stuff already.

 

[BlueHaze]

A very nice thread. Excellent Information. If i might add little plants is the way to go. Trees are nice but not efficient. Hello to my old buddie Dhf. Very smart guys that knows the in and out. Small plants all the way like bobblehead quoted. Its a faster turn around.

 

[redbudduckfoot]

31oz on my first 1k hps vert grow, three sides, a la selfhemployed. 13 plants.

what does that work out to? one min, i'll figure it out...........

.775 gpw first try, i usually hit 2+ elbows on my 1200w horizontal scrogs.

about to start flowering my next run; 3 level stadium w/6 plants per level, 3 sides.

plants going in will be 1ft tall, as opposed to the 2ft trees i stated w last time.

will be doing one side ecsd, the other two sides chemIbl.

pretty confident i will hit 42+oz this time.

giving all but my veg reflector away. always hated lugging those things around anyway.