new spidermite killer

[DocLeaf]

We used to tap on the counter and ask for " tope " ,, normally comes off-label wrapped up in paper like **** . Just about kills everything in the room (slowly including humans) except the plants !!!

On a commercial crop , we'd be happy to apply chemical applications in veg. , but seek organic alternatives (including the old lemon juice and water on a sponge) to remove spidermites in bloom,, even if we weren't intending on smoking any of the produce!

Ideally,, ALL pesticides should however be rotated in application to prevent the 'strain' of pest becoming resilient or immune to one specific spray / product.

Prevention is always better than cure,, so keep spaces tidy, free from leaf debris and fallen soil,,, and well away from house-plants that harbour unwanted pests !!

Hope this helps

 

[paladin420]

Ok yeap just a noob. Fightin PM for the first time in a multi-stage perpetual hydro 12k grow. I used all/any 'clean' methods to save my bud room. PM wash worked the best......
Period Fuckin DOT

I will use their Product for the Borg if n when they show. My .02

 

[stgermain]

We used to tap on the counter and ask for " tope " ,, normally comes off-label wrapped up in paper like **** . Just about kills everything in the room (slowly including humans) except the plants !!!

On a commercial crop , we'd be happy to apply chemical applications in veg. , but seek organic alternatives (including the old lemon juice and water on a sponge) to remove spidermites in bloom,, even if we weren't intending on smoking any of the produce!

Ideally,, ALL pesticides should however be rotated in application to prevent the 'strain' of pest becoming resilient or immune to one specific spray / product.

Prevention is always better than cure,, so keep spaces tidy, free from leaf debris and fallen soil,,, and well away from house-plants that harbour unwanted pests !!

Hope this helps

i think you are referring to 'torque'....and you are right prevention is better than cure

 

[dawgsbolloxs]

greenfingers hydro stock it id use floramite, dynamec, avid, harkers... any of them will do the trick in veg ...just rotate the chem if you need...swear by them all I wont buy a bottle as ive got loads of other shit and tend to only get mite every 4-5 years which as been brought in by myself some how love to see some concrete results with this

 

[DocLeaf]

i think you are referring to 'torque'....

might of been what its called,, but weren't what we asked for peace

 

[Guest 10952]

Tried all that old school crap, Neem, Perithrium and avid. Avid would have to say worked the best, but they still came back. I recently seen a thread that 70% iso alcohol works and it does. I sprayed a plant with the iso and the rest with Avid and they both look the same. So $2 a bottle can cover qutie a few plants and is works. Smells like ass, but you don't have to wear the radioactive suit to spray the shit.

 

[Bhodi_22]

well

well

Ideally,, ALL pesticides should however be rotated in application to prevent the 'strain' of pest becoming resilient or immune to one specific spray / product.

I never thought of it quite that way - way to think about the future!

 

[DocLeaf]

I never thought of it quite that way - way to think about the future!

Spider Mite are known to be resilient or even immune to many chemical applications with persistent use. Many organic / homemade pesticides however over-ride this problem for some reason... esp. the ones that contain tobacco (because it is a classified poison, unlike the additives sold in bottles which need to pass safety standards). peace

edit: to add always remove the basal leaves which often harbour mites before they fully invade.

 

[foomar]

This product from BnQ seems particularly effective for over the counter chems , the safety pdf is not too scary but is only approved for ornamentals.

Stopped an established large veg infestation at a mates house three weeks ago and no mites seen since , would not use in flower myself apart from seed plants.

Add a tiny drop of detergent and spray just to the point of runoff , goes a surprisingly long way and quite economical , no leaf damage on canna but fucked my peppers.

Have a small cache of broad spectrum organophosphate based insecticides from 1950 - 80 , all long banned and for good reason , modern mites have zero resistance to a carefull and controlled one off doseing as a last resort.

Unfortunately my job almost guarantees i will reintroduce them at some time , predators have been unpredictable , continous use of neem will surely breed resistance longterm ?

 

[stgermain]

This product from BnQ seems particularly effective for over the counter chems , the safety pdf is not too scary but is only approved for ornamentals.

Stopped an established large veg infestation at a mates house three weeks ago and no mites seen since , would not use in flower myself apart from seed plants.

Add a tiny drop of detergent and spray just to the point of runoff , goes a surprisingly long way and quite economical , no leaf damage on canna but fucked my peppers.

Have a small cache of broad spectrum organophosphate based insecticides from 1950 - 80 , all long banned and for good reason , modern mites have zero resistance to a carefull and controlled one off doseing as a last resort.

Unfortunately my job almost guarantees i will reintroduce them at some time , predators have been unpredictable , continous use of neem will surely breed resistance longterm ?

2the safety pdf is not too scary"
really?
and it says this?

o Causes substantial but temporary eye
injury. Do not breathe spray mist.
o Harmful if inhaled or absorbed through
the skin. Wash thoroughly after use.

how on earth can you come to that conclusion when you will be burning the stuff.....

an american friend of mine told me about a large growers community in the states that used pesticides on their plants within 5 years the incidence of testicular cancers were much higher....in 5 years!!!

if you burn abermectin you are playing a dangerous game with your health....

 

[foomar]

would not use in flower myself apart from seed plants.

Compared to the under the counter chems being suggested this is one of the safest , see no problems with its carefull and limited use in veg.

It rapidly degrades in light and any amount makeing it to the bud would be lost amongst a myriad of accepted toxic compounds of known harm.

It is the active ingredient in Avid , that has approval for soft fruit like strawberrys and is used extensively in the UK.


This is a current list of what is readily available on ticket , or under the counter with a price hike , just insecticides and miticides.
Street weed here will have been sprayed with one or more of these and probably in flower.


Admire
Aphox Pirimicarb A carbonate insecticide for aphid control
Apollo 50SC
Applaud Buprofezin A moulting inhibitor in for whitefly control
Aztec
Calypso
Chess
Conserve
Crossfire
Danadim
Decis Deltamethrin A pyrethoid in with contact and residual activity in a wide range of horticulture crops
Derris Liquid
Dimethoate
Dimilin Flo Diflubenzuron A selective persistent contact and stomach acting insecticide
Dipel DF
Draza
Dursban 4
Dursban WG Chlorpyrifos A contact and ingested organophoshorus insecticide and acaricide on a wide range of horticultural crops.
Dynamec Abamectin A selective acaricide and insecticide for use in ornamentals and protected edibles
Fyfanon Malathion A broad-spectrum contact organophosphous insecticide and acaricide
Hallmark
Intersept 5 GR
Intersept 70WP Imidacloprid An insecticide for seed, soil, peat or foliar treatment
Majestic Natural plant extracts A contact insecticide that works by physical action
Malathion 60
Masai
Meothrin
Mitac HF
Nemolt
Nicosoap
Nicotine 95% XL All
Nicotine Shreds
Nicotine XL Nicotine A general purpose, non-persistent contact insecticide
No-Fid
Permasect 25EC
Pynosect 30 WM
Savona
Sequel
Spannit r
Spraying Oil
Suscon Green
Suscon Indigo
Talstar Bifenthrin A contact and residual pyrethoid acaricide /insecticide for use in agricultural and horticulture crops
Toppel 10 Cypermethrin A contact and stomach acting pyrethoid insecticide in a wide range of horticultural crops
Torq Fenbutatin oxide A selective contact and ingested organotin acaracide
Vi-Nil 10Kg

 

[dawgsbolloxs]

ive just recently heard some suppliers have pull this...i dont know why?

 

[cheesey]

well im giving this stuff a go . i found a cpl of mites on 1 of my mums .
its so strange spraying pink water on my plants it looks like strawberry milk shake lol .

did my 1st spray yesterday . will post up what happens soon .

 

[Hundred Gram Oz]

Tagged.

 

[stgermain]

ive just recently heard some suppliers have pull this...i dont know why?

where did you hear that?

 

[Gert Lush]

Hm, by coincidence I just saw the blurb for this product today.

I have no idea if it works or not, but SO much pseudo-scientific waffle does seem suspicious:
I mean, what's a "'frequency' harnessed in the water" (as appears on blurb)? The outer quotes are mine, but why do they put frequency inside single quotes?

 

[paladin420]

Talked to a guy today used it. Worked as stated. BUT the spider stuff is heavy. It collected on the webs and weighted the leaves and branches down,didn't break any. So precaution should be used on any weakened plants IMHO.

 

[cheesey]

Talked to a guy today used it. Worked as stated. BUT the spider stuff is heavy. It collected on the webs and weighted the leaves and branches down,didn't break any. So precaution should be used on any weakened plants IMHO.

easy way to stop it is dont let the spide mite problem get so bad you get webs . catch them b4 the problem gets that bad .

 

[ChaosCatalunya]

Torque, talstar in spain is the best one time spider mite killer i have used, with wetting agent it has nailed them every time for me. Veg only, and as with most,gloves and a good mask, it is nasty.

In flower, C02 fire extinguishers work, just do not overdo it and freeze the plant.

Having seen outdoor buds survive 6" of rain in an hour I would also now try spraying seriously infested crops with plain water on the undersides of leaves to blast off or drown a large %.

in Veg too this works a treat, stick in 1/4 strength nutes as a foliar feed, every other day. If you do not put any nutes in,it will leach some out of the plant... just add wetting agent and off you go. Call me a savage, but outdoors, blasting plants with a garden hose every other day is amazingly effective. just like a thunderstorm, but from underneath.

Now a semi reformed character, I have a20L Matabi backpack sprayer, brilliant kit, £50 very well spent. You will never skimp on the job, it is safer to use than cheap sprayers,honestly, it is such a joy to use it has turned a chore into fun.

 

[foomar]

Found this little gem on another forum whilst searching in vain for any reputable science involved.

As one of the inventors of this product I can assure you that Mighty Wash does indeed work just like you are describing it. After 10 years of research we "imprinted" pure water with frequencies that do kill the spidermites with NO HARM to the plant. This is work that started with Nikola Tesla and has advanced to the present day. I am pleased with the response
to these products and I am happy to offer a clean solution to spidermites.

Any mention of Tesla in product advertiseing is usually a scam , used his name myself to help sell a worthless fuel saveing device back in the 80,s