Holding in your hits gets you higher thread

[SmartPothead]

Im running low on headstash to stretch it out a bit Ive been holding in my hits until I cant breathe and until the smoke dissolves in my lungs.

I noticed no matter the strain this seems to get me way more faded then the usual hold in a few seconds exhale method. Part of me feels like a fiend but I noticed this method allows me to conserve my headstash and make it last considerably longer.

Is this healthy? Whats your opinion on holding in your hits gets you higher?

 

[stoney-trees]

your confusing a lack of oxygen to getting higher...

Hold your breathe in for 15 seconds and let out. You get light headed. This isnt getting "higher"

I laugh when I am smoking with someone new and they hold it in and I take 4 hits in the meantime. lol

 

[Z-Beeblebrox]

Smoking is not healthy!

But - Yes. The longer the smoke is in your lungs, the higher you get.

There are also more ways to increase smoke/THC uptake:

Take deep breath before you hit and make sure your lungs expand all the way when you smoke. You can draw false air when you smoke to make the smoke go "deeper". Your aim is to train your lungs, just like an athlete training for oxygen uptake. The better you lung capacity is, the higher you can get from a hit.

I have tried this numerous times, since i race road bike and mountain bike. It is also my primary way of transportation. So after a 30km race a hit from a mild joint will knock me off my feet instantly.

 

[Dislexus]

I thought 8 seconds was the rule in terms of thc absorption vs. tar absorption.

All I know is I got this from a very scientific and referenced post on OG.

 

[vonforne]

When you hold it in longer it just deprives that 1 brain cell you have left of much needed o2.

You are not getting higher, just dizzy from lack of air.

V

 

[BlueBlazer]

I think there is a psychological component to getting high. If you believe something makes you higher, it does (so to speak). Same thing if you think you're not very high. For instance, you may think you're not very high but if you have to suddenly talk to a cop . . . you may find that you were much higher than you thought.

 

[Frozenguy]

I think it is reasonable to assume it is not by any means an instantaneous transfer. So one must think how long does it take for the lungs to extract all the THC from the smoke in the lungs? Three seconds, five seconds, 10 seconds?

I feel it depends on the size of the hit, the ratio of air to smoke, the persons lungs, etc.

I haven't read anything studies regarding this matter, but I would assume holding your hit in longer does effect how much you get. The point is though, how long. I would imagine longer then about 10 seconds would result in diminished returns.


Just like when you blow on a camp fire to make it hotter. You do that because you still have oxygen in your exhale.
Try holding your breath for as long as you can and THEN breath on the fire. It will do the fire no good, only bad (basically all CO2 at that point).

 

[U4ic]

your confusing a lack of oxygen to getting higher...

Hold your breathe in for 15 seconds and let out. You get light headed. This isnt getting "higher"

I laugh when I am smoking with someone new and they hold it in and I take 4 hits in the meantime. lol

Dude you need to get yourself a check up if holding your breathe for 15 seconds makes you lightheaded....lol

 

[NOTB]

fuck health(a far as weed is a issue)....that bein said have you ever tried the old halfway house method of blowing the smoke into a brand new garbage bag and holding that smoke in the bag until you catch your breath then recycling that smoke back into you lungs? you'd be surprised at how much cannabanoid smoke is lost on the first hit, you don't believe me? try it you can get floatin on 1 hit ......just recycle it 2-3 times.

 

[Dislexus]

OK I'm gunna try something... if someone posts a WeirdNews article about a guy dying from hotboxing a joint with a bucket over his head in a bathtub... that's me.

Might be misreported as auto-erotic asphyxiation.

 

[Euphrates]

If your vaporizing, holding it in is actually effective, and worth it.

but when smoking, its not, actually, its really damaging -

 

[NOTB]

go for it Dis man innovation is the only way up ....if you do whack yourself we'll make sure there is a propor monument for ya.

 

[stoney-trees]

Dude you need to get yourself a check up if holding your breathe for 15 seconds makes you lightheaded....lol

...Not perhaps I used the wrong word. But you dont feel anything? holding your breathe for 15 seconds. Im taking inhaling deep and holding. then bow out...You feel normal? Like a normal breathe? I dont.

 

[krypt]

hold in a hit of plant matter... hell no!

-krypt

 

[kmk420kali]

I think it is reasonable to assume it is not by any means an instantaneous transfer. So one must think how long does it take for the lungs to extract all the THC from the smoke in the lungs? Three seconds, five seconds, 10 seconds?

Milli-seconds-- Smoking is the fastest mode of delivery the body has-- Believe it or not, it is even faster than intravenous--

I haven't read anything studies regarding this matter, but I would assume holding your hit in longer does effect how much you get. The point is though, how long. I would imagine longer then about 10 seconds would result in diminished returns.

Just like when you blow on a camp fire to make it hotter. You do that because you still have oxygen in your exhale.
Try holding your breath for as long as you can and THEN breath on the fire. It will do the fire no good, only bad (basically all CO2 at that point).

The lungs need air exchange down to the Alveoli, where the oxygen molecules are bonded to the blood via capillaries-- Same for THC, Cocaine, or any other blood bondable thing--
and it happens very fast--
However, without exchange, the tiny Alveoli have gotten all they can from the minute bit in each-- (Fun Fact: if completely opened up flat, the area of the lung is the size of a tennis court--)
That is why when you hold your breath, you start running out of oxygen quickly-- That is why athletes can do lung expanding exercises and it works...it expands the area able to transfer oxygen to the blood--
Now...I am not a Dr, this is just the way I understand it-- If there are any Physicians in the house...please check me--

 

[Euphrates]

Random Fact:
Vapor is absorbed by yours lungs at a slower pace than smoke.

 

[kmk420kali]

Random Fact:
Vapor is absorbed by yours lungs at a slower pace than smoke.

Not doubting, but do you have a source for that??
I ask because the lungs don't absorb the vapor or the smoke, per se...they transfer the molecules is all-- I would think the molecular structure would be the same, no matter what the delivery is-- But maybe it is more concentrated in smoke than it is in vapor-- That is why I ask--

 

[Frozenguy]

Milli-seconds-- Smoking is the fastest mode of delivery the body has-- Believe it or not, it is even faster than intravenous--

The lungs need air exchange down to the Alveoli, where the oxygen molecules are bonded to the blood via capillaries-- Same for THC, Cocaine, or any other blood bondable thing--
and it happens very fast--
However, without exchange, the tiny Alveoli have gotten all they can from the minute bit in each-- (Fun Fact: if completely opened up flat, the area of the lung is the size of a tennis court--)
That is why when you hold your breath, you start running out of oxygen quickly-- That is why athletes can do lung expanding exercises and it works...it expands the area able to transfer oxygen to the blood--
Now...I am not a Dr, this is just the way I understand it-- If there are any Physicians in the house...please check me--

I suppose I meant the transfer of all the molecules. Transfer may start to happen within mili seconds, but how long to grab all the molecules needed for a high?


The lungs do not deplete the air supply of O2 immediately. This is evident by holding your breath for 10 seconds and blowing on a fire/ember. You can see combustion occur and that wont happen with CO2.. (unless you're burning magnesium..)

If you exhale 'usable' O2 in every breath, I imagine the same is done with THC in smoke.


I imagine if one modeled concentration of THC vs time on a graph, it would start high, and drop quickly as time goes on, but not straight down. It doesn't reach zero until some time after. And I don't think that is mili seconds but more like several seconds to possibly 10 seconds depending on various conditions. Maybe more if we are talking about the lung extracting all the THC.

(Fun Fact: if completely opened up flat, the area of the lung is the size of a tennis court--)Fun Fact: if completely opened up flat, the area of the lung is the size of a tennis court--)

That is fun I knew it was large surface area but didn't realize it was that large.. Damn crazy lol..

 

[kmk420kali]

I suppose I meant the transfer of all the molecules. Transfer may start to happen within mili seconds, but how long to grab all the molecules needed for a high?


The lungs do not deplete the air supply of O2 immediately. This is evident by holding your breath for 10 seconds and blowing on a fire/ember. You can see combustion occur and that wont happen with CO2.. (unless you're burning magnesium..)

If you exhale 'usable' O2 in every breath, I imagine the same is done with THC in smoke.


I imagine if one modeled concentration of THC vs time on a graph, it would start high, and drop quickly as time goes on, but not straight down. It doesn't reach zero until some time after. And I don't think that is mili seconds but more like several seconds to possibly 10 seconds depending on various conditions. Maybe more if we are talking about the lung extracting all the THC.


That is fun I knew it was large surface area but didn't realize it was that large.. Damn crazy lol..

I have been out here at the Collective, by myself for almost a week straight now, so I welcome the convo!!
What you are saying seems logical...but if that were the case, don't you think that when doing something like running, that the lungs would slow down, to get all usable O2?? Instead we breath faster, up to multiple breaths per second--

 

[seeyouaunty]

I like to make sure that i take in a little bit of air after my hit to push all the smoke into my lungs. No point leaving smoke sitting in my mouth/throat where it won't be absorbed.

If OP likes the effect of holding your breath try this: Take in your hit crouching down, and as you inhale standup tall and proud. Do it right you'll get a mean headrush better than just holding your breath alone, lol. I don't do this but i've got mates that swear by it.