Does making seeds make sense?

[meddy]

yes...WHY?

TERMINATOR Cannabis is here..2 billion dollars..GW..PHARMA.

The gene at locus O allows the production of the initial phenolic precursors (resorcinolic acids). These combine with geranyl pyrophosphate to create the intermediate cannabinoids CBG and/or CBGV, the central precursors for the end-product cannabinoids THC(V), CBD(V) and CBC(V). The functional allele O is co-dominant; O/o hybrids have a low cannabinoid content and o/o plants are cannabinoid-free.


THC-FREE..CANNABINOID FREE...WHOOPS.

ITS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY...

Now..6 mature plants..may make 2 lbs..mabie more if out doors..

the same plants can make 1 million seeds..and at as much as 10 dollars a seed..U DO THE MATH.

 

[zymos]

Make seeds? Definitely!!
You may not need 'em right now for production, but they are valuable in so many ways!

Gene pool, storage, easily shipped anywhere, they make great gifts...

 

[habeeb]

well this is totally on you and what you want / need / like

first off, alot might be cleared up if you turn your mom's to bonsai.. they take up little space, little light, and only really require water/nutes and trimming.. there is no reason to keep a mom in hydro if you don't mass produce.. but once again, if you like doing that keep doing it, but there are many ways to the same path if you want a different approach

second. female seed. that's up to you once again.. my vote goes to keeping the mom's and making seed, in the event that something happens you have your favorite mom in backup form..

there is the point if you want variation, you need the male to "complete" the train if you want to sift through ever.. or if your looking for your mom, just go female. then the flip side is diluting the line... this is why good breeders and good breeders...

these are all very good questions, and best left to your judgment, as we all have different motives which drive us in this hobby.. if you are wondering, just ask and wait, the universe will give you the answer if you are asking.. also nothing is harmed by taking your time

 

[thing]

In regards to being frugal with electricity, you could just take a cutting of each strain, every run, and not keep mothers at all. With the lower numbers, use the old mother room to produce some seeds with a couple spare clones as an insurance policy in case you ever have any problems.

 

[kaneboy]

make seeds cause you never know what may happen ,i do so it can save a lot of heartache and grief of that loved strain

 

[Morphote]

Does anyone have a link to a really good colloidal silver thread?

Colloidal Silver vs. STS

Yayyy! My first colloidal silver generator for making feminised seeds - DIY Guide

I would really like to see if you can get Green Crack to reverse.

M.

 

[Kushed_]

Iron Lion: Nice grow box, I will try w/some bonsai per Big Eggy. I make seeds every year!

This year I am growing some of my seeds: Bubba Kush, BK X POG, and BK x UK Cheese. Check it out:
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=216341

 

[Bake_McBride]

I say make seeds. I just did my first open pollination with a male plant I saved and can't wait to see what I come up with.

 

[festivus]

I experimented with coloidal silver for 2 years, but bailed on it after multiple attempts on 2 strains failed. Evidently, cs doesn't work on all strains. I would get small amounts of pollen, but it was always sterile.

A more productive approach for me was to cross these uncooperative cuts with "complimentary" strains to make natural seeds. I suppose GA is an alternative, but I think chemically induced reversal kinda goes against nature...never tried it myself, so no experience with it.

Great thread Herbalizor!

 

[oldbootz]

i dont think it has been stressed enough how different the seeds come out compared to the original mom plants. that being said you can get bad variations and good ones. you might even find better plants. but there might be some kind of flavor that you try to reproduce that is never the same again in successive plants. my vote goes to keeping small moms and making seeds but i would seek out a nice male clone from somewhere or from a bunch of quality seeds and save pollen to hit up your clones lower branches now and then to make hybrids. if you find the male from seeds try use an IBL strain.

once you start chucking pollen you normally get hooked. its so nice to grow your own crosses out and see what parts of each parent they inherited.

 

[crazybear]

I made some seeds not on purpose, but now I'm keeping bonsai moms & hopefully dads & soon hopefully making seeds to keep genetics, because I never know what's going to happen! I just got rid of a nasty bug infestation that really screwed the pooch, lost three moms & three in bloom & the ones that did finish bloom were almost a waste of time!!!!!!!!!

 

[Green and Gold]

I've lately started making and stockpiling seeds. In addition to a veg room and a flower room, I set up a "spooge" room in a closet where I put a male on each end with 4 females between them under T5s. The plants are about 3 feet tall. There is a fan at each end moving air towards the middle. When I open the door there is a cloud of pollen floating around. The girls seed up really nicely. Once seeds are apparent, I get rid of the boys, let the girls be alone for a few days, then mist them lightly and put them back in the flower room to finish seeds under the HPS lights along with the virgin girls. Soon as the days get shorter I can also acclimate them to outdoors and let the seeds finish outside.

I'm two weeks into 12/12 on a run from seeds (for a change) in the flower room.

I've been running a strain from Humboldt that finishes by Sept 1st for twenty years or so.
I've been crossing that with clones I've grown..Sour Diesel, OG Kush, Arcata Trainwreck, Purple Wreck, Ischense........Over the next couple of years I want to cross these hybrids back to their respective mothers a few times to see how close I can get to the original genetics and be able to grow whatever I can come up with from seed.

Looking down the road I would like to not be so tied to a bunch of moms. I would like to get away for more than 3 days at a time. Running clones is quicker, but not that much quicker than from seed if you time the veg room right.

 

[supermanlives]

if you dont make seeds your stuck with what you got . make seeds and find a new gem ,sometimes better than the parents.

 

[THE PABLOS]

Don't make beans....it's madness

 

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[3dDream]

I am literally a closet hack. I think that one easy way to go through numbers is to grow a population based on traits that are found in seedlings. I look at how fast they grow, the length of the roots (plants with the longest tap root tend to be the larger adults (duh)), coloration, leaf shape etc. I burn through many seeds doing this because I might only select a small group. I also attempt to review the smell of a seedling. When they make their first leaves I can smell the a scent that echos the finished product.


Sativa or indica?


mutant


blueberry dom


little stinky

 

[supermanlives]

I would bet that the vast majority of the strains you love and keep were the result of combing through hundreds if not thousands of seeds. The chances that you'll find anything of 'clone only' quality from any given seed is very very low. Selfing only reduces these chances. If you have the space, time, creativity, and legal opportunity (read: numbers), have at with seeds. Otherwise, I'd stick with reliable cloning.

alot of strains are simple crosses anyone could make. maybe 5 percent of so called breeders grow thousands.if its and ibl already outcross with another strain.i run through 140 or so to find what i want. it has worked for me for many years. the resulting seeds are rarely stable so good for finding a new mom but not so good for production run as there are alot of variety.using cs is better tho but adds nothing new to the mix.dj did some incredible stuff in a closet. to each their own

 

[beta]

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[supermanlives]

clone only is hype IMHO if the breeder was that good there would be seeds. instead of a test run to find one plant to clone. which anyone with time and space can do. stabilizing a strain and making seeds is what takes talent. i havent totally stabilized anything. but i have found many great plants. currently working with some mexi genetics that a friend that goes there gave me 9 years ago when he was there.he had told me they were hybridizing their stock and the seeds proved it. do what you want i aint getting in a pissing match. my mexi strain was better than trainwreck enough to make me stop growing trainwreck and patients agreed. i have seeds i crossed from cw and og days that will hold their own to any cush or hyped strain available at the dispensaries. end

 

[Zonker]

I see space and costs as issues, but nothing about plant numbers, must be nice to live in friendly states. There are those places where 4 plants is simple possession, but 5 plants becomes intent to distribute (it would really suck to get popped for intent with a bunch of bonsai moms, lol.). Clones are nice and convenient but nothing wrong with seeds either.