The Sun affects our weather??? Oh Noooooo!

[grapeman]

Well well. What us common folk have suspected for years seems to be true after all. Our Sun affects our weather.


Shhhhhhhhhhhh. Don't tell anyone just yet. We'll have to break it to them slowly so we don't disturb algores business and stop the redistribution of wealth.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/07/18/cern_cosmic_ray_gag/

https://calderup.wordpress.com/2011/07/17/“no-you-mustnt-say-what-it-means”/

http://www.welt.de/wissenschaft/article13488331/Wie-Illuminati-den-Cern-Forschern-geholfen-hat.html

 

[Sgt.Stedenko]

Bingo!
Of course, the gaja crowd and wealth redistributors won't want to hear the truth.

 

[master shake]

Wait what?? The sun is hot? I thought the sun caused cooling and shot snow crystals from it to offset the CO2 we humans produce that cause warming!

 

[Bullfrog44]

No shit! I thought it was Al Gore.

 

[paladin420]

Oh this is gonna be good

 

[bentom187]

not again

 

[grapeman]

Sooooo, since the earth is currently experiencing magnetic field shifts as we are smack dab at the time when earth's magnetic poles shift (about every 10,000 +/- years or so), it stands to reason there may be temperature fluctuations.

And they were telling me it was my Hummer. Ha.

 

[paladin420]

But we have sent probes into the sun, sssoooooooo.....? must be our fault.. -

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

Wheres that Al Gore? Lemme at him!

 

[grapeman]

Yayyyyy! Disco is here.

But he is totally disrespecting his grapes.

 

[enter sandman]

We are also 'now' moving thru a galactic dust cloud that is exciting the sun and our whole solar system. Others call it the Photon Belt. The photon belt was long thought to be new age bullshit...not so. The sun is absorbing the particles from this belt and shooting them directly at the earth. Of course we have a magnetic shield to protect us, however some of the photons get thru, being just different particles of light. This is affecting people whether they know it or not. Very interesting times.

 

[grapeman]

We are also 'now' moving thru a galactic dust cloud that is exciting the sun and our whole solar system. Others call it the Photon Belt. The photon belt was long thought to be new age bullshit...not so. The sun is absorbing the particles from this belt and shooting them directly at the earth. Of course we have a magnetic shield to protect us, however some of the photons get thru, being just different particles of light. This is affecting people whether they know it or not. Very interesting times.

Thanks Sandman, I had not read that (if I did, I forgot), and I consider myself well read on physics.
Imma read up on that.

But just goes to show that man has very little control over these things.


Hmmm, after reading a bit about the "photon belt" I'm not convinced. Gravity will bend light, but it cannot, as far as I know make an orbiting belt of photons. Gravity that strong would belong to a black hole, in which case, once the photons crossed the event horizon, there would only be an orbit of death to the photons.

 

[bentom187]

"Thanks Sandman, I had not read that (if I did, I forgot), and I consider myself well read on physics.
Imma read up on that."

well my friend physics dictates that their is cause and effect,wich means since humans are here there is a effect of our presence on everything we contact. (directly or indirectly)
what is our effect on using fossil fules ? not messurable ? isignifigant ? it is what we read ? well just take a messure of whatever culprit you or others suspect and then multiply it by the number of humans.
then you will have a mesure of effect, minus the necessities we need to live.
if the nessecities are less than the culprit then we can say destuction is apon us.
so necessities are X culprits are Y and the result is Z. so X -Y =Z you just have to make sure the values are correct and verifiable through experiments and observation.
also clearify what it is you want to accomplish,is global warming real ? or is your question is it man made? or is it a natural cycle? give somthing for people to debat specificly. politics aside.

 

[gdtrfb]

all i can say with any authority is it's getting damned difficult to keep my ladies cool this time of year.

if nothing else, i'm guess it's refreshing that the conversation isn't still spiteful bullshit about whether it's getting warmer or not. not that moving on to spiteful bullshit about what causes what everyone now finally admits is happening is much of an improvement, but if you set your standards low enough (and squint. really hard.) it almost seems like topical progress.

 

[Nor'Easter]

sour grapeman, I would love to tell you how wrong you are but I owe you the right of at least reading your thread! Yes the sun does affect your weather I will give you that but I am so sure you spinned it all so wrong in favor of oil barons like yourself. I will check later though, in case you suprised me! no didn't think so!

 

[CLOWD11]

Well well. What us common folk have suspected for years seems to be true after all. Our Sun affects our weather.


Shhhhhhhhhhhh. Don't tell anyone just yet. We'll have to break it to them slowly so we don't disturb algores business and stop the redistribution of wealth.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/07/18/cern_cosmic_ray_gag/

https://calderup.wordpress.com/2011/07/17/“no-you-mustnt-say-what-it-means”/

http://www.welt.de/wissenschaft/article13488331/Wie-Illuminati-den-Cern-Forschern-geholfen-hat.html

Mate you are so desperate lol
So your take on CERN chief forbids “interpretation” of CLOUD results" results in global warming denial?
Even the 1st link you posted explains for dummies that the earth is warming.
Here http://www.alternativeenergynewswir...-solar-activity-would-not-slow-global-warming read this!

A research team from the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research (PIK) in Germany has found that deceased solar activity until the end of this century would only slightly scale down the global temperature rise caused by greenhouse gas emissions. The results of the study are published in the journal Geophysical Research Letters.

Sunspots (dark spots on the Sun caused by magnetic activity which reduce the Sun’s surface temperature wherever they appear), can expand to around 80,000 km as they move across its surface. The Maunder Minimum, a famous period of low solar activity when very few sunspots were observed, occurred between 1645 and 1715 and coincided with the “Little Ice Age”, a period marked by freezing winters across Europe and North America.
Current observation of sunspots shows that solar activity is at its weakest for nearly a century, leading to speculations by some solar physicists that we may be on the edge of a new Grand Minimum period comparable to the Maunder Minimum.
To explore the possibility of a 21st century Grand Minimum, the Potsdam researchers set up climate models for the oceans, the atmosphere and land surface. They looked at possible greenhouse gas emission scenarios provided by the IPCC featuring intermediate and strong rises in emissions during this century.
Using the models, they performed three simulation experiments with different solar forcing—one without a Grand Minimum and two with the Sun entering a new Grand Minimum lasting until the end of the century. In these models, solar radiation fell by 0.08% and 0.25% compared to its value in 1950. Global temperatures were modelled to rise to 3.7% or 4.5 °C above the 1961-to-1990 average level.

You make it seem like a new revelation that the sun indeed supplies heat to the earth. Your understanding of climate change must be incredible!

 

[genkisan]

Well well. What us common folk have suspected for years seems to be true after all. Our Sun affects our weather.


Shhhhhhhhhhhh. Don't tell anyone just yet. We'll have to break it to them slowly so we don't disturb algores business and stop the redistribution of wealth.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/07/18/cern_cosmic_ray_gag/

https://calderup.wordpress.com/2011/07/17/“no-you-mustnt-say-what-it-means”/

http://www.welt.de/wissenschaft/article13488331/Wie-Illuminati-den-Cern-Forschern-geholfen-hat.html

 

[Sgt.Stedenko]

"Thanks Sandman, I had not read that (if I did, I forgot), and I consider myself well read on physics.
Imma read up on that."

well my friend physics dictates that their is cause and effect,wich means since humans are here there is a effect of our presence on everything we contact. (directly or indirectly)
what is our effect on using fossil fules ? not messurable ? isignifigant ? it is what we read ? well just take a messure of whatever culprit you or others suspect and then multiply it by the number of humans.
then you will have a mesure of effect, minus the necessities we need to live.
if the nessecities are less than the culprit then we can say destuction is apon us.
so necessities are X culprits are Y and the result is Z. so X -Y =Z you just have to make sure the values are correct and verifiable through experiments and observation.
also clearify what it is you want to accomplish,is global warming real ? or is your question is it man made? or is it a natural cycle? give somthing for people to debat specificly. politics aside.

If Grapeman hadn't spelled physics for you, you would have struggled spelling it as well.
Congrats on making one of the 5 dumbest posts on IC Mag I've ever seen in over 5 years.
Cause and effect? I dont recall that as one of the basics of physics. Perhaps you are getting one of Newtons three basic principles of physics confused with your church of global warming rhetoric?
If you have something factually accurate to add on physics (which I doubt you have ever even seen a physics text book, let alone participated in a classroom environment), thermodynamics, meteorolgy, astronomy, or oceanography, please chime in. Your failed use of variables in your example is enough for anyone with a high school education to dispel your post as utter bullshit
I'd suggest you pursue your GED before you try to hang with the big dogs.

 

[SpasticGramps]

 

[kmk420kali]

The sun will be illegal in 2012....they discovered it is a key factor in the cultivation of Cannabis!!