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Thinking of using local soil...maybe?

Scrappy4

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Interesting side note. Where I live in the early 1900's a guy named Carl Schmidt came here to prove he could farm on yellow beach sand. He was a forward thinker in his day and even had cable/pulley systems for plowing. He grew grass by having many wells watering frequently, the grass fed cattle for market and the farm thrived until he was caught relaying plane movement at a local AF base to nazi Germany by shortwave radio, then it became an elk ranch, and now is a golf course.
And I know you can grow most crops in sand given enough water and nutrients....scrappy
 

guest2012y

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Planting clones today and selecting keepers for flower I discovered that my veg room had become it's own universe. A tree frog,web making spiders of several types,soil critters I've never seen before. One type had a probocsis type stick that it uses to pierce it's prey,and another type that looked like a wasp that ducked and spun around under the leaves like some kind of predator hunting,and other very small types of insect that I have no clue about.

There were several types of flying fly which has taken a liking to the worm box...no doubt which must supply food for the predators as the spiders webs were full of them. The plants were fine and under 24 MH all the time....I felt guilty taking that world away to the flower room......for a second. But I did get the frog back into the outside world.

And from here it's back on 24 hr. MH for a while.
 

guest2012y

Living with the soil
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3 weeks since transplanting clones...probably go into flower next week,4 weeks since last harvest. Multiple types...maybe around 30.

This soil has been recycled for a year and a half,re-amended and built with native soil/forest debris plus various other organic goodies.
Living organic soil is making it happen!!!
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Corpsey

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you sir, are doing the good work! looking real good


in your recycled soil how do you deal with strains that don't care for the mix? i think i see one in the bottom right

i have one that just curls every leaf tip. it's not even that sativa.
but its growing well despite that, only hope it doesn't stress it out and it herms because it does have a history of that.

next time i was thinking of taking 50% of my normal mix and add 50% inert peat/pumice/hulls mix, just don't know if i would be robbing them of food. but there is always top dressing and teas.
 

guest2012y

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you sir, are doing the good work! looking real good


in your recycled soil how do you deal with strains that don't care for the mix? i think i see one in the bottom right

i have one that just curls every leaf tip. it's not even that sativa.
but its growing well despite that, only hope it doesn't stress it out and it herms because it does have a history of that.

next time i was thinking of taking 50% of my normal mix and add 50% inert peat/pumice/hulls mix, just don't know if i would be robbing them of food. but there is always top dressing and teas.

I'm guessing around 30 types ranging from Indica through Sativa....haven't counted. I don't baby any of them,only the best performers in this soil are saved.
Some of the Sativa's don't really like the high octane organic mix,but they make it. If a guy really wants to grow Sativa's IMO, the best thing to do would be to go light on the fast release nutes and look more into long term release rates from other amendments.

Some types from a breeding show a phenotype that curl leaves...other phenotypes don't. It's hit and miss which ones like the mix and which ones don't.
Keep the ones that like it.
 
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DARC MIND

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plnt based soil,compost,casting,amendments & rockdust grow both sats and indica's pretty darn well impe...
soil been threw 20+ cycles & tips only slightly burn when i push with the FPE...
quality casting & or compost slurry,ACT & topmulching with any of the above goes hand in hand with pretty much all plants ive personally worked with..
 

guest2012y

Living with the soil
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plnt based soil,compost,casting,amendments & rockdust grow both sats and indica's pretty darn well impe...
soil been threw 20+ cycles & tips only slightly burn when i push with the FPE...
quality casting & or compost slurry,ACT & topmulching with any of the above goes hand in hand with pretty much all plants ive personally worked with..

Some of my Satty's love it...but I do have a couple that are sensitive to it.
I went pretty light on the nitrogen re-amend this round and I'm glad I did....the Satty's will be thanking me later when I go for the EWC/alfalfa topdress sometime around the second to third week in flower.
 

guest2012y

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Back on track in the flower room.....loving the living recycled soil and it's loving me back.

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TO x BMR 5 gallon no-till. Alll the no-till pots look as good as the re-amended ones.

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Corpsey

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beautiful!! this is what life is all about.

how many no till 5gal girls did you do? and how long have they been in the 5gal?
they all look great.
 

guest2012y

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Did 3- 5 gallon and 2-3 gallon no-tills. They were put in the no-till pots at the same time the clones went in the other pots. I doubt I'll even topdress them...we'll see.
 

guest2012y

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Bugs and all,it's another world in there. Saw a 4 inch long centipede today just cruising under there hunting.

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Scrappy4

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Did 3- 5 gallon and 2-3 gallon no-tills. They were put in the no-till pots at the same time the clones went in the other pots. I doubt I'll even topdress them...we'll see.

You should run those pots two or three times then sell the pots with dirt to hydro shops. Capt Cheese's super soil, tested and approved by the Capt himself....do you have an eye patch for the label pic? Scrappy
 

mad librettist

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really HB?

I think it would be better if after death we all wake up in a place where all that MJ is allowed to grow outside with the other plants like it wants to be.
 

heady blunts

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really HB?

I think it would be better if after death we all wake up in a place where all that MJ is allowed to grow outside with the other plants like it wants to be.

okay okay, good point. i mean, if heaven is really up in the clouds think of how much sun we'll be getting! wooooo!:greenstars: :greenstars: :greenstars:
 

mad librettist

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dude, up there, one side of your house is 18/6, and the other side is 12/12.

it never rains on the 12/12 side and RH is always about 40%-30%. and it is downhill from the 18/6 side, so it gets plenty of water.
 

guest2012y

Living with the soil
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really HB?

I think it would be better if after death we all wake up in a place where all that MJ is allowed to grow outside with the other plants like it wants to be.

I'm still holding hope it will happen in this lifetime. Who knows,maybe another 20 years of oppression eh?
 
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