*The K.I.S.S. Method*

[bruceinpacifica]

Hi SSH,
I use the KISS method in coco with 30% perlite, a tsp of Maxibloom to the gal. of tap with no other supplements. This being my first grow ever I've been flying on a wing & a prayer along with the help of the brethren here & elsewhere. I've found from clone 10 days into my AK-47 grow that I was beggining to develop clorosis. After making minor lighting adjustments & letting my water sit out for 24 hous I got around to trying a tsp of calmag to the gal of tap & viola a burst of growth & the plants are really looking healthy.
After all of my reading on the forums & my very limited exp. it looks to me that Maxibloom only is strain dependant.
And I was originall going to go with AN Heavy Yeild Kit+ recommended supplements to the tune of 3 bills & up, lol. Glad I dodged that bullet.
Cheers,
bruce

 

[Budweiser13]

This deserves a sticky its got so much good info mods lets get this to the top:wave....

 

[cody2white]

Only one tap. Per gallon. Dont even need to ph be back with more as they progress

 

[Bobby Stainless]

I got around to trying a tsp of calmag to the gal of tap & viola a burst of growth & the plants are really looking healthy.
After all of my reading on the forums & my very limited exp. it looks to me that Maxibloom only is strain dependant.

That is the info I needed.

Thanks!

I think we are going to do a comparison run, during the start of heavy veg and into flower.

H3ad vs. KISS.

Should be able to tell by the middle of stretch, which works better.

Going to add our usual 2ml of Bloombastic during the last 6 weeks of flower.

Should be interesting.

 

[merlot]

Hey Bobby!

I use Maxibloom + Liquid Koolbloom for the first 5 weeks, then Powdered KB for a feeding.. then flush at the end.. with great results thus far!

 

[down2grow]

Bobby,

I love bloombastic as well, but I had to get rid of it because it was making my 40 gallon blumat res cloudy after 2-3 days. That's even with two 132 gph sump pumps circulating the mix. I just got my biggest yield yet doing what lazyman does. At week 4 I add diamond nectar at 5ml and 1/4 tsp koolbloom powder per gallon. If I haven't hit my ec I'll add my maxi til 1.4-1.6 ec. Using tap water at .2 ec with no issues at all in the res & the girls aren't complaining. Got 2.7 off six girls last run going for 3 this run.

d2g

 

[down2grow]

Forgot to add. Flavor was a little better with h&g coco & bloombastic though. Might grab some floranectar this upcoming run.

d2g

 

[thesloppy]

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[John Deere]

I'm not quite sure what your point is, thesloppy. Are you saying the Lucas website is wrong? IMHO you're taking it a bit far when you say 1 tsp of MB is "just not anything close to the Lucas formula." No, they're not exact but the numbers you posted look fairly close to me, but I'm more of a gardener than a scientist.

It turns out, Maxibloom, used in a ratio of 7 grams per gallon of water*, is very close to the original Lucas Formula (above.)

I don't get that analytical when I'm growing. Some days my scoop's a bit fuller, some days it's a bit less and the same with my water jugs. Like you said, it's working fine so I don't stress about it.

Best of luck.

 

[dgr]

thesloppy's point was that if one were wanting to simulate Lucas with Maxibloom, he would be better served using 7 grams of Maxibloom per gallon of water and not the 5 ml/5 grams that is being bounced around in here. However, the large scoop in my bag measures out between 17 and 18 grams which is ~6 grams/gallon.

Measuring for a reservoir with a scale is much quicker and more accurate (crap, was that 17 or 18 scoops?) for moi.

 

[thesloppy]

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[Guest 18340]

Where are you getting 7ml from?
It's 7 GRAMS/gal, or 1 tsp/gal.
Been using it for almost 2 years in Coco and have never had a deficiency of any kind.

 

[John Deere]

Sorry, but I haven't seen anyone saying 5 g = 1 tsp. Post #3 by Ioni Botani lists 7 g as does the Lucas website that I linked. (sorry, it doesn't look like a link in my post)

No hard feelings here. You posted in such large, bold font so I thought I must have missed something important. Sorry again, but I'm still not seeing where you came up with that number.

And yes, the number you posted for 7 ml (I assume you meant grams, not ml) are very close to the numbers you posted for the Lucas targets. At least they look pretty close to me.

 

[thesloppy]

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[Guest 18340]

1 tsp = 6.9 grams, according to my scale.
Give or take 1/10th. But 5 grams is way off.

 

[John Deere]

Grams and mililiters are pretty much interchangeable, in terms of dry measurements in small amounts, and measuring spoons use ml....so I bounce back and forth....sorry for the confusion.

If you're feeding your plants 1tsp of maxibloom you're feeding them 5 grams, not 7.

(and there's an example of someone still quoting the 1tsp recipe, John Deere)

I'm still confused. Where are you getting the info that 1tsp = 5 grams? The Lucas website says it's 7 grams. Ioni says he weighed it out himself and it was 7 grams plus a point or two. (he even discussed that if you're mixing up a large amount to be aware of the rounding) I've looked back through and don't see anyone saying 5 g. I may have missed it, though, so that's why I'm asking.

 

[John Deere]

Thanks, evlme2. BTW--here's Ioni's post I was referring to. And if you go back to that post, evlme2 had the next reply.

Say true. Ive tested for myself the weight of a LEVEL TEASPOON. It comes out to a point or two over 7 grams.
I imagine when mixing more than 10 gal. that this may swing the ppms slightly. However....I do know people running whole 55 gal res' with this no problem. They don't even level off their teaspoons...if anything it just gives everything an extra little KICK!

-Ion

 

[SuperSizeMe]

Hopefully no one is losing sight of just how simplistic and economical this method is...even in veg

K.I.S.S. fed MOFO mother, about to be flipped and fed the same...I do use a cal/mg supplement<as needed> (7.5ml/gal.)




I basically run in promix/perlite/lime...if there's an easier way, PM me please.


Peace,

SSM

 

[thesloppy]

Hmmmm, well I stand corrected.

My teaspoon measures out at 5.2 grams....but that looks to be my problem, and some quick double-checking leads me to believe it may be a combination of my scale, and my teaspoon.

I'll scrub my other posts so as to not cause the kind of confusion I was supposedly combating.

 

[John Deere]

Crazy stuff happens, thesloppy. I assumed there was a disconnect in the mix somewhere. Glad we figured it out.

Happy growing, and K.I.S.S.