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Twitter ignores marijuana policy questions at President Obama's "Twitter Townhall"
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The movement has made undeniable progress in recent years. Keep chucking fuel on the fire and we'll eventually burn through.
Barney Frank and Ron Paul JUST proposed the first congressional bill on legalization since MJ was criminalized more than 70 years ago! Even if it doesn't make it to a debate, somebody had the balls to try. NOW. Not in the 60s. Not in the 70s, 80s, 90s... NOW. That's progress, even if it isn't the instant gratification all of us crave.
Someone hand me that log...
Barney Frank and Ron Paul JUST proposed the first congressional bill on legalization since MJ was criminalized more than 70 years ago! Even if it doesn't make it to a debate, somebody had the balls to try. NOW. Not in the 60s. Not in the 70s, 80s, 90s... NOW. That's progress, even if it isn't the instant gratification all of us crave.
Someone hand me that log...
STRAINZ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zymos
I know it's hard to believe, but to most of the country this isn't the most important issue right now...
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I know right:
- This country is strapped for cash, about to default on loans, cutting back on programs for children, the elderly, & poor, cutting back on education, etc. etc.
- The unemployment rate is higher then its been in years & not getting any better.
- We're involved in several wars still (Afghanistan, Iraq, & of course The War on Drugs....which costs billions of taxpayer dollars to arrest, prosecute, & imprison OURSELVES!)
- And we still need to create those new "green" industries that are environmentally friendly.
.....If only there were a way to generate cash, while getting people back to work, & creating new enviro friendly industries!?!
C'mon Man, the writing's on the wall!
Originally Posted by zymos
I know it's hard to believe, but to most of the country this isn't the most important issue right now...
__________________
I know right:
- This country is strapped for cash, about to default on loans, cutting back on programs for children, the elderly, & poor, cutting back on education, etc. etc.
- The unemployment rate is higher then its been in years & not getting any better.
- We're involved in several wars still (Afghanistan, Iraq, & of course The War on Drugs....which costs billions of taxpayer dollars to arrest, prosecute, & imprison OURSELVES!)
- And we still need to create those new "green" industries that are environmentally friendly.
.....If only there were a way to generate cash, while getting people back to work, & creating new enviro friendly industries!?!
C'mon Man, the writing's on the wall!
This is a great point. It also leads me to my point. How long can the government oppress our rights and corner us before we retaliate with the fury of a thousand suns. Peaceful protest will only last so long. Humans are just animals, and will succumb to their emotions, just as all our politicians succumb to corruption to gain power. The fury builds in us on a daily basis. If many of us didn't have our grows to help us defy the new Nazi America, then I am sure we would be doing things v for vendetta style. Eventually The rage of the whole American society is going to boil over and everyone will wish that the protesters against all this current American Tyranny were listened too. The inevitable backlash towards the slave masters is going to be bloody and no one will enjoy it. In history, the super power of the time always thinks it is a good idea to push their agenda on the people until they win or the people kill them. However even if they win there will eventually be a slave revolt, and the salves kill the masters anyways.
These are not things I am suggesting, this is just fact, that anyone can learn studying history, and humanities.
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ProfGerbik
Active member
half you people really need to stop blaming obama like he honestly has that much control over shit, whats sad is youve all been made to believe he does and you actually believe it.. thats the pathetic part. its quite frankly really getting on my nerves, do none of you realize the big picture? what actual corrupt shit goes on within this country way beyond any presidents in our history's control... i want it legal also but like this stated..
and this.. couldnt have been said better..
i dont fully agree.
i agree somewhat that there isnt that many but in the reality as said before there are bigger issues that are the source to all these smaller related problems like legalizing cannabis, this is what people need to be focusing on, not a president, like no one has ever been denied the right to speak freely before give him a fucking break already seriously, everyone acts like you can just become president and change the damn world in a matter of 2 years...
yea that makes complete sense considering this country has been this fucked up for over hundreds of years... so id love to see any of you blaming someone as useless as a president try and honestly do better.
seriously half of these comments are just really retarded and offensive and show why there is such a huge gap within legalization or even any hope because the majority of you are blaming problems on people who literally have no control over any of this. who would want to listen to this bull shit when most of you are just pulling shit out of your asses that the media and all its minions have fed to you.
i mean the reality of how corrupt our country is goes as far as this, even if obama listened to everyone who shits on him for fucking at least trying and even bringing these matters more to light.. he would probably be killed or have his life and family endangered for even making such radical statements without any regards to the federal government he works for, they would for sure take care of that.
i mean none of you are even in this mans shoes and yea bush was a dumb ass there is no doubt about that but i can say that obama at least had some good ideas, he cant help they were all just shut down by people who have more control over things than he does, good ideas will only get you so far being president and it really disturbs me how so many people truly focus on just him, as if he doesnt think about this shit when he sleeps at night wishing that everything he planned would have worked.
i mean im pretty sure the man has realized this country that will not even be willing to provide its people with free health care for the simple fact of oh.. old people will get the plug pulled and us rich folk will have to pay more taxes... he knows there is no hope in him making a huge difference in legalizing cannabis either, thats extremely obvious isnt it? yet canada is doing all these things just fine and has been for a long time but no its so hard to do in the US.. and its all obamas fault.. jesus christ on a fucking hot iron rod shoved through his ass.. it blows my mind every time i hear sheep recite the words of their herder.. freaking think people for the love of everything in this universe think harder..
you dont even know what he goes through on the daily basis just even bringing shit up like that, none of you have ever been president nor have i but i at least have the common sense to realize its just not one fucking man causing all these problems we have had for over hundreds of years.. its the ones that are so well hidden that people are misdirected to poor saps like this who have to listen to this idiotic bull shit day in and day out like they dont have a good idea of the bigger picture either. i also know obama being president probably has a good idea of how fucked things are in a much better perspective than any of us could have, hes apart of it.. to sit there thinking none of this crosses his mind even once is absurd in itself knowing that alone.
the biggest laugh i have about all of this is how predictable it was, i knew as soon as he mentioned free health care and cannabis laws he was going to be shut down the first week he was even in office... hmmm lets see what shortly came after "Obama causes great depression all over again!!!" "Obama is killing jobs everywhere!" "Obama has it out for old people and taxing the rich..." god forbid the people who have over 50 million dollars in their bank accounts will have to pay a little more tax, i never heard such absurd bull shit in all my life.
every one of these problems everyone fucking blames obama for have existed way before he could even fathom to think of being a president yet no one realizes any of that, they just all fall right into what the media plans for them to believe, the media says there is a depression "sheeple OMG theres a depression!".. obama is killing jobs.. when the fuck hasnt it been hard to get a good job? what in 1910...!? fuck off with that shit i get so livid just hearing this crap, seeing how many of my friends and past generations of family have struggled in this fucking country period all for the simple fact of how corrupt and filled with cow shit it is. it makes me sick people are honestly so comfortable sitting on their lazy asses thinking this bullshit hasnt existed just because they have been lucky enough not to experience it.
well i have, as far as im concerned this is nothing more than propaganda at its finest workings... my life and my family and their parents and family and so on and so on have all struggled here and have never lost sight of what our federal government actually does, its not some fucking perfect world weve lived in until obama came to office get a fucking grip on reality...
im so sorry for even being this dick about this but from the experience ive delt with and always seeing how many holes have been left in the countries federal end since it has started its reign have always existed to me, im not stupid enough to believe or even point the finger at these poor pawns that get caught in the bull shit.
do you really believe that obama him fucking self ignores this shit purposely? especially something on fucking twitter.. seriously listen to yourselves. i hate to even start cussing in a negative manner for once but jesus fucking christ i really get sick of everyone bashing obama, he fucking tried.. which is way more than any and most presidents have done their entire life times.. he cant help and neither can we that there are literally greater hidden powers that will stop any chance of actual change from happening, until we source them all out none of this crap will ever cease.
who the fuck would want to be hated by everyone for failing? do you honestly think he does this shit on purpose himself? of course not otherwise he wouldnt have MIB's watching his every move in every appearance he makes, he is watched and controlled just like the rest of us, a lot of you really need to grasp the fact presidents are shields, they place them their as pawns to keep people perceptions off the kings and queens. it makes it extremely easy to ignore those with any real logic when all they focus on is the problem they have been gifted and presented to them in lovely little box, tied so delicately with a pink glittery ribbon.
this country has become so ghosted and gripped to the medias information of things its truly sad to see people so easily mislead to believe and focus on what really isnt doing a damn thing. its gotten so distorted even those with the real sight in mind still get caught up pointing fingers at people who could never have the control or creditability you all seem to give them and think they have...
what i love the most is people are quick to judge him for the things he hasnt achieved when what the fuck have you achieved that gives you any right to act like you could do better? the last time i checked not one of you have made any significant difference other than signing useless petitions that will just be shut down as quickly as obamas ideas were.. fucking pathetic bunch of people the US has become, they have completely lost touch with what can really be achieved by simply being correctly informed and truly aware.
all these obama comments are just complete utter rubbish. they make you no brighter than how you perceive this poor man, im not a obama lover either i could give a shit about who becomes president and always have simply because i always knew they arent the ones pulling the strings, they are the ones that have the strings pulled on them and it urks the hell out of me every waking day that a huge majority do not notice such an obvious issue.
and this.. couldnt have been said better..
i dont fully agree.
i agree somewhat that there isnt that many but in the reality as said before there are bigger issues that are the source to all these smaller related problems like legalizing cannabis, this is what people need to be focusing on, not a president, like no one has ever been denied the right to speak freely before give him a fucking break already seriously, everyone acts like you can just become president and change the damn world in a matter of 2 years...
yea that makes complete sense considering this country has been this fucked up for over hundreds of years... so id love to see any of you blaming someone as useless as a president try and honestly do better.
seriously half of these comments are just really retarded and offensive and show why there is such a huge gap within legalization or even any hope because the majority of you are blaming problems on people who literally have no control over any of this. who would want to listen to this bull shit when most of you are just pulling shit out of your asses that the media and all its minions have fed to you.
i mean the reality of how corrupt our country is goes as far as this, even if obama listened to everyone who shits on him for fucking at least trying and even bringing these matters more to light.. he would probably be killed or have his life and family endangered for even making such radical statements without any regards to the federal government he works for, they would for sure take care of that.
i mean none of you are even in this mans shoes and yea bush was a dumb ass there is no doubt about that but i can say that obama at least had some good ideas, he cant help they were all just shut down by people who have more control over things than he does, good ideas will only get you so far being president and it really disturbs me how so many people truly focus on just him, as if he doesnt think about this shit when he sleeps at night wishing that everything he planned would have worked.
i mean im pretty sure the man has realized this country that will not even be willing to provide its people with free health care for the simple fact of oh.. old people will get the plug pulled and us rich folk will have to pay more taxes... he knows there is no hope in him making a huge difference in legalizing cannabis either, thats extremely obvious isnt it? yet canada is doing all these things just fine and has been for a long time but no its so hard to do in the US.. and its all obamas fault.. jesus christ on a fucking hot iron rod shoved through his ass.. it blows my mind every time i hear sheep recite the words of their herder.. freaking think people for the love of everything in this universe think harder..
you dont even know what he goes through on the daily basis just even bringing shit up like that, none of you have ever been president nor have i but i at least have the common sense to realize its just not one fucking man causing all these problems we have had for over hundreds of years.. its the ones that are so well hidden that people are misdirected to poor saps like this who have to listen to this idiotic bull shit day in and day out like they dont have a good idea of the bigger picture either. i also know obama being president probably has a good idea of how fucked things are in a much better perspective than any of us could have, hes apart of it.. to sit there thinking none of this crosses his mind even once is absurd in itself knowing that alone.
the biggest laugh i have about all of this is how predictable it was, i knew as soon as he mentioned free health care and cannabis laws he was going to be shut down the first week he was even in office... hmmm lets see what shortly came after "Obama causes great depression all over again!!!" "Obama is killing jobs everywhere!" "Obama has it out for old people and taxing the rich..." god forbid the people who have over 50 million dollars in their bank accounts will have to pay a little more tax, i never heard such absurd bull shit in all my life.
every one of these problems everyone fucking blames obama for have existed way before he could even fathom to think of being a president yet no one realizes any of that, they just all fall right into what the media plans for them to believe, the media says there is a depression "sheeple OMG theres a depression!".. obama is killing jobs.. when the fuck hasnt it been hard to get a good job? what in 1910...!? fuck off with that shit i get so livid just hearing this crap, seeing how many of my friends and past generations of family have struggled in this fucking country period all for the simple fact of how corrupt and filled with cow shit it is. it makes me sick people are honestly so comfortable sitting on their lazy asses thinking this bullshit hasnt existed just because they have been lucky enough not to experience it.
well i have, as far as im concerned this is nothing more than propaganda at its finest workings... my life and my family and their parents and family and so on and so on have all struggled here and have never lost sight of what our federal government actually does, its not some fucking perfect world weve lived in until obama came to office get a fucking grip on reality...
im so sorry for even being this dick about this but from the experience ive delt with and always seeing how many holes have been left in the countries federal end since it has started its reign have always existed to me, im not stupid enough to believe or even point the finger at these poor pawns that get caught in the bull shit.
do you really believe that obama him fucking self ignores this shit purposely? especially something on fucking twitter.. seriously listen to yourselves. i hate to even start cussing in a negative manner for once but jesus fucking christ i really get sick of everyone bashing obama, he fucking tried.. which is way more than any and most presidents have done their entire life times.. he cant help and neither can we that there are literally greater hidden powers that will stop any chance of actual change from happening, until we source them all out none of this crap will ever cease.
who the fuck would want to be hated by everyone for failing? do you honestly think he does this shit on purpose himself? of course not otherwise he wouldnt have MIB's watching his every move in every appearance he makes, he is watched and controlled just like the rest of us, a lot of you really need to grasp the fact presidents are shields, they place them their as pawns to keep people perceptions off the kings and queens. it makes it extremely easy to ignore those with any real logic when all they focus on is the problem they have been gifted and presented to them in lovely little box, tied so delicately with a pink glittery ribbon.
this country has become so ghosted and gripped to the medias information of things its truly sad to see people so easily mislead to believe and focus on what really isnt doing a damn thing. its gotten so distorted even those with the real sight in mind still get caught up pointing fingers at people who could never have the control or creditability you all seem to give them and think they have...
what i love the most is people are quick to judge him for the things he hasnt achieved when what the fuck have you achieved that gives you any right to act like you could do better? the last time i checked not one of you have made any significant difference other than signing useless petitions that will just be shut down as quickly as obamas ideas were.. fucking pathetic bunch of people the US has become, they have completely lost touch with what can really be achieved by simply being correctly informed and truly aware.
all these obama comments are just complete utter rubbish. they make you no brighter than how you perceive this poor man, im not a obama lover either i could give a shit about who becomes president and always have simply because i always knew they arent the ones pulling the strings, they are the ones that have the strings pulled on them and it urks the hell out of me every waking day that a huge majority do not notice such an obvious issue.
ProfGerbik
Active member
thanks for ruining my mood with all this obama hating ignorance. i even really dig some of you and am really shocked to hear such stupidity leave your fingers.
welcome to politics, folks
ijim
Member
The government spending billions a year on the war on drugs is not that much of an issue.
The government arming the police with automatic weapons and military style training in the name of the war on drugs is not that big of an issue.
The government encroaching into every Americans live is not that big of an issue. Thousands imprisoned in our country each month for Cannabis is not that big of an issue.
Peoples homes broken into and killed by mistake by law enforcement is not that big of an issue.
Thousands killed in Mexico is not that big of an issue.
What is important is that you can afford the latest in electronics and your phone dose not drop calls.
There is not one issue that is a problem in this country that can not be connected in one way or another to the wars on drugs and terrorism.
You Obama disciples will blindly follow him to ruin rather than see what is before your own eyes. I say this and I voted for him but I will not be fooled again.
How do your two eyes see any more than the folks that disagree with your priorities, beliefs, political leanings, etc?
You can't always get what you want. But in the case of mmj, the opposition isn't a clear alternative. We can all wave the Ron Paul flag but how does that matter when Paul receives less than 5 million votes?
You can't always get what you want. But in the case of mmj, the opposition isn't a clear alternative. We can all wave the Ron Paul flag but how does that matter when Paul receives less than 5 million votes?
Dude I am from illinois.
"Obama hating ignorance"
Obama just sucks the fattest fucking cock.
It is as simple as that.
Say what you will about that shit-eater Bush.
At least he was upfront and honest about eating shit.
A shit eater and a cocksucker. Such enthralling discussion. Part of the reason we can't get anything done in DC is the us-vs-them/ me-vs-them point of view.
Where, exactly?
Where, exactly?
budlover123
Member
"upgrade your grey matter cause one day it may matter" -Del the funky homosapien
If you honestly believe that will happen, even with a D supermajority, then I've got a bridge to sell you. All I need is your name, address, SS#, and bank routing numbers. Thanks.
Honestly, if we want legalization its going to have to start with a ballot initiative or three.
It is going to take ending the drug war disbanding the entire DEA. The DEA will never let it happen. In their simple feeble minds their livelihood depends on keeping pot illegal. The way to get them to change their mind is to strike back. Let them know if they want to stay alive period then they just have to quit. otherwise they are gonna end up buried alive in a shallow grave out in the country.
so in other words it will take US citizens growing balls and using their second amendment right to end tyranny. I suggest this because everything else has failed. The entire globe OFFICIALLY agrees that we should end the drug war and still the US DEA blows them off like they are a 1950's house wife. The UN should technically send in soldiers at this point to force them in to cooperation. Unfortunately the UN is pussy, so that leaves it up to the citizens. The DEA needs to go away forever.
so in other words it will take US citizens growing balls and using their second amendment right to end tyranny. I suggest this because everything else has failed. The entire globe OFFICIALLY agrees that we should end the drug war and still the US DEA blows them off like they are a 1950's house wife. The UN should technically send in soldiers at this point to force them in to cooperation. Unfortunately the UN is pussy, so that leaves it up to the citizens. The DEA needs to go away forever.
IMO, we could elect lawmakers who advocate DEA reform. I'm not sure I'd be up for free market dope commerce but that's just me.
IMO, we need substantially more than the laissez faire advocates as we're not likely to overhaul our monetary system. Total deregulation isn't likely but DEA reform could happen. We just need enough representatives to demand it.
IMO, we need substantially more than the laissez faire advocates as we're not likely to overhaul our monetary system. Total deregulation isn't likely but DEA reform could happen. We just need enough representatives to demand it.
Fuck the DEA; after what those psychopaths have done to this country, Reform is much to light of a word. They should have two options. option 1. disband and live happily ever after. option 2. Die painfully.
also Fuck the DoJ. they are the biggest enablers of tyranny. They love the drug war because it creates endless fake crime for them to judge which justifies their existence. However we cant disband the entire DoJ. So they get different options. option 1. uphold the constitution for the all people and not just for the wealthiest 5 percent of people.... and live happily ever after. option 2. permanent exile to another country.
the reason the DEA shouldnt get mercy is because they are murders, thieves, and nazi's. The DoJ gets mercy because they serve an actual purpose.
also Fuck the DoJ. they are the biggest enablers of tyranny. They love the drug war because it creates endless fake crime for them to judge which justifies their existence. However we cant disband the entire DoJ. So they get different options. option 1. uphold the constitution for the all people and not just for the wealthiest 5 percent of people.... and live happily ever after. option 2. permanent exile to another country.
the reason the DEA shouldnt get mercy is because they are murders, thieves, and nazi's. The DoJ gets mercy because they serve an actual purpose.
That's just my 2 cents, not necessarily what I expect to happen.
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OlibanumBreath
This is always sad news.
doesnt suprise me one bit. censorship at its finest. why have an open discussion if your gonna pick what questions you want and ignore others. its all bullshit and i for one an sick of obummer and tired of seeing his face on tv
