Is this weed safe to smoke? And, I need to pour out my heart to you guys also...

[guest86120975]

Well man, I barely have a quarter left right now as it is so I just chunked a medium sized joint in there. I guess you could say this is a test run. What do ya think, 3 days in the water and then a 12 hour sun-dry outside?

As you all know, Either way, the meds are going to be awful, but I guess we'll see if it's less awful

 

[Dudesome]

Alrighty then guys, I'm going to satisfy everyone's curiosity (especially mine) and try a water cure. But, I'm probably gonna compromise here and try it with about a gram first. The only thing is, I don't really have any way to dry it except air dry (sun dry?). I assume that it'll dry much faster than harvested fresh bud. It's been in the bowl for about 12 hours now and hasn't sunk to the bottom yet.

I can't believe I'm really doing this.

man it wont sink. You will have to use something heavy to make it go under water. Use only room temp water. Also do change your water every day and DO NOT EXPOSE WEED TO LIGHT(especially sun). It will kill THC within 1 hour and your bud will be even more shitty than before the cure.

for drying you have a hairdryer option, but it kind of sucks. You have to do it at long distance and for a long time, so attach that shit somwhere. Do not heat the bud up.

Cure it for 7 days

 

[guest86120975]

Okay gotcha, no sun dry

You know one thing I forgot to mention, and no water cure or anything else will help this... I have a legitimate medical need that would qualify me in any state where MMJ is legal (not just CA), and all schwag is basically pure sativa, which is really the opposite of what I need. I definitely don't need racy weed, which schwag often is. I need a sedating indica. That's the next issue, even if the water cure helps with the horrible taste/smell.

How ridiculous is this? I mean, like 80% of Americans are on my side here, yet if I try to help myself I risk serious trouble.

 

[thing]

I like your sig.

 

[guest86120975]

I like your sig.

Oh thanks bro, the idea was that if monkey's grew weed then who could be charged for it?


Now that I look at the bowl again, I think the water is starting to turn yellow.

 

[Dudesome]

Okay gotcha, no sun dry

You know one thing I forgot to mention, and no water cure or anything else will help this... I have a legitimate medical need that would qualify me in any state where MMJ is legal (not just CA), and all schwag is basically pure sativa, which is really the opposite of what I need. I definitely don't need racy weed, which schwag often is. I need a sedating indica. That's the next issue, even if the water cure helps with the horrible taste/smell.

How ridiculous is this? I mean, like 80% of Americans are on my side here, yet if I try to help myself I risk serious trouble.

yet another point for you to groYoOwn

 

[Dudesome]

Oh thanks bro, the idea was that if monkey's grew weed then who could be charged for it?

the monkeys

 

[guest86120975]

I guess I should have made my user name "weed struggles" or something to that effect.

 

[gaiusmarius]

i really feel for folks in your situation.

sprayed weed will not get much better even after a water cure as the hair spray is not water soluble. however it might well help a bit. the important thing is to be gentle, you dont want the trichomes to fall off in the water. and motion can cause ripe trichs to fall off. personally i would just take it out again after a few hours in the warm water and put it on some cardboard to dry, after a few days, probably 3 or 4 days it will be dry again and ready to smoke.

as for the growing, have you considered a guerrilla grow? this way it's not connected to you if the plants are found? you could grow a few plants in the wild lands and get enough to last you the year.

or you make a small set up using a led or a small 400 watt hps and just use an aero system so you have the roots growing only in water or air. that way they can't weigh any soil with the plants.

but smoking stuff that's been sprayed or otherwise stretched is a hazard to your health in the long term so i'd consider that. ideally some one like you should have friends prepared to take care of your cannabis needs. the move to Cali might benefit your quality of life much more then you can possibly imagine. i mean f you get medicinal effects from that sorry to say trash, then imagine how some properly grown indicas would help.

 

[badbeans]

Alrighty then guys, I'm going to satisfy everyone's curiosity (especially mine) and try a water cure. But, I'm probably gonna compromise here and try it with about a gram first. The only thing is, I don't really have any way to dry it except air dry (sun dry?). I assume that it'll dry much faster than harvested fresh bud. It's been in the bowl for about 12 hours now and hasn't sunk to the bottom yet.

I can't believe I'm really doing this.

I used to toke that same east coast mids junk, not anymore. If you need good stuff for your medical condition, then you need to grow it yourself.

A few years ago I set up a small indoor grow with a 400watt Hps. When security problems came upon me I took it all down and went guerilla. No more indoor growing for me, at least until my state allows for mmj. I think a well executed guerilla grow is the best option from a security standpoint if you are physically able to do it.

So, when the seed in the pic pops during the water cure, take it out and plant it somewhere, join the ranks of us guerilla growers! There is alot of good guerilla growing info on the outdoor forum, plenty of helpful guerillas to help you get started.

Good luck brother,

bb

 

[guest86120975]

Ah yeah I had "fantasized" about a guerrilla grow, but I've got a couple things working against me there. One, I'm in the suburbs, and two I have a spinal tumor in the bone in my back which makes hiking a tricky proposition at best; especially alone. As far as micro growing where I live, indoors, it's also pretty tricky for various reasons. If I lived, say, in a house in the middle of 20 acres of land surrounded by a fence...then I would probably strongly consider growing indoors. It's more of a logistics issue, if that makes sense. I'm not even sure if that's the right word...but it isn't easy going. I'm pretty sure a 400 watt grow would get me at least 5 years, probably twice that... but that means nothing because I would almost certainly die or be killed in jail. Oh, I definitely WILL live in California one day.

 

[badbeans]

Ah yeah I had "fantasized" about a guerrilla grow, but I've got a couple things working against me there. One, I'm in the suburbs, and two I have a spinal tumor in the bone in my back which makes hiking a tricky proposition at best; especially alone. As far as micro growing where I live, indoors, it's also pretty tricky for various reasons. If I lived, say, in a house in the middle of 20 acres of land surrounded by a fence...then I would probably strongly consider growing indoors. It's more of a logistics issue, if that makes sense. I'm not even sure if that's the right word...but it isn't easy going. I'm pretty sure a 400 watt grow would get me at least 5 years, probably twice that... but that means nothing because I would almost certainly die or be killed in jail. Oh, I definitely WILL live in California one day.

guerilla growing doesn't have to involve strenuous hiking, it could be as easy as say... a stroll through the park, feel me?

You could grow autoflowering plants that are only going to grow 2-3 months and only get 1-3 ft tall, space them out a little bit and they disappear into the landscape, feel me? It really can be that easy... a gardening trowel, a pinch of osmocote, and a splash of water and bam! you got yourself a guerilla grow going!

When you begin providing your own quality meds, your stress level will certainly decrease. I'm here to help, and many others will help too. Get on the outdoor forum and post this stuff, the other guerillas will help you get started.

bb

 

[ijim]

A closet or wardrobe with some T5 fluorescent lights or a 400 watt lamp should work to keep you a decent stash. With a low odor strain like Northern Lights a box fan should suffice for ventilation. No matter where you purchase Cannabis from North or South of the border those that grow just for profit can do anything to increase yield or speed. As posted before you can water cure it and reduce the chemical presence. Or ISO it and smoke the oil. But use organic soil a small flower room and veg with light from a window is as easy as it gets for a harvest every two months. With a low odor plant.

 

[FirstTracks]

Alrighty then guys, I'm going to satisfy everyone's curiosity (especially mine) and try a water cure. But, I'm probably gonna compromise here and try it with about a gram first. The only thing is, I don't really have any way to dry it except air dry (sun dry?). I assume that it'll dry much faster than harvested fresh bud. It's been in the bowl for about 12 hours now and hasn't sunk to the bottom yet.

I can't believe I'm really doing this.

If you're worried about it molding up while you air dry, you can always use a quick dry method for a quicker dry but harsher smoke.

The best quick dry, IME, is turning on an oven to its lowest setting (130-170 degrees F). Once it has heated up, turn off the oven so no new heat is being added, and put the herb in on a piece of foil or a cookie tray (don't put the tray in until AFTER the oven is turned off).

this creates a very low humidity environment which sucks the moisture out of the herb.

I like to do this until the herb feels almost dry enough, then pull it out and let it air dry the rest of the way.

When I've water cured middies, there are benefits through about 6-7 days. Each day when you go to change the water, it will be a little less yellow, until on day 6 or 7, it should be almost clear, maybe just a little cloudy. Once the water is clear at the end of a 24 hour cycle, it means most, if not all, the water soluble contaminants have been sucked out of the herb.

Someone else mentioned already but....
-you need to wight your buds down, at least at the beginning, to keep them underwater
-the less you can disturb the buds while changing water, the better.
(poor water out as slow as possible)
-if you are worried about losing trichs off the buds, pour the water through a coffee filter when draining the container in order to catch any trichs that fall off
- your bud should look dark-colorless/brown/dark green at the end of the process. this is normal, it means the chlorophyll has been pulled out.

In response to what AGbeer said about 1 gram being too little.......it doesn't matter what mass you lose. Your resultant from the original 1 gram of bud is going to still have the power/potency of the original gram, just with less useless filler material. starting with 1 gram or 1 ounce, you still should end up with cleaner bud if you do it halfway right.

 

[Dudesome]

...meaning that thc vs other chemical compounds ration goes down. meaning that ur bud becomes stronger...

 

[crazybear]

Ah yeah I had "fantasized" about a guerrilla grow, but I've got a couple things working against me there. One, I'm in the suburbs, and two I have a spinal tumor in the bone in my back which makes hiking a tricky proposition at best; especially alone. As far as micro growing where I live, indoors, it's also pretty tricky for various reasons. If I lived, say, in a house in the middle of 20 acres of land surrounded by a fence...then I would probably strongly consider growing indoors. It's more of a logistics issue, if that makes sense. I'm not even sure if that's the right word...but it isn't easy going. I'm pretty sure a 400 watt grow would get me at least 5 years, probably twice that... but that means nothing because I would almost certainly die or be killed in jail. Oh, I definitely WILL live in California one day.

Look man let me run it down for you with the present polices of the current administration about cannabis, screw them I don't think there is much worse than this state I currently reside in, ten years for one plant & I grow inside! I do not live on ten acres of land, in the city! I need my meds & I'm not going to deal with trying to get nasty stuff to deal with my pain! Just do a micro grow or do like I do & not really give a shit! But then again I'm crazy!

 

[ProfGerbik]

Even the good stuff sucks? Gee man...

I hear ya on the Marinol though, that stuff is nothing like bud...all the heavy sleepy effects with none of the euphoria.

i dont. effects every person differently, to me marinol is highly euphoric. i never get tired on marinol either. i also find it very relateable to some very good strains ive had throughout my life.

i find it weird you would hope sativex is better, in my opinion ive had both and marinol is way more legit, for one if sativex is going to be FDA approved and possibly put on shelves that should say it is obviously much more horrible for you, which seems to be the whole purpose of this post to find better alternatives. i had 10mg marinol so i dont know what you had.

anyway i honestly feel like your friend is letting you down bringing you such terrible bud, to me this seems like you just need to find someone who is growing it themselves well and stick with them or tell him to find a better source.

trust me its not any easier where i live and im not going to say where but take my word for it, i get by. ive grown for years without any problems and i have a really good dealer probably best stuff you can get in this city that is literally cali grade because its mailed from cali or either grown by him with this same inspiration and actually on point.

it takes a little time but i can promise you someone within your area is probably growing and willing to sell or share some really worth it bud, it urks me when people act like their whole state is useless for getting good quality cannabis when i know it just isnt true.

there is always some, youve made it this far buying shwag which in my opinion isnt even worth the 50$ your paying for it, you should at least get a ounce of that crap and whoever you are buying it from id straight up tell them this is bullshit you trying to sell me this garbage for half an oz at 50$..

another thing i dont really see is the urge to spend a lot of money on a better product, if you arent willing to find a better source or spend more to get more, you are not going to get better bud its just that simple. this chemy hydro you are so afraid of has to be better than smoking mexican imported shwag thats for sure, which is clearly what your being given but at 100$ a quarter it still isnt as expensive as quality bud would be so you get what you pay for or arent willing to look for.

ive never taken shit from dealers with poor quality bud and have never hesitated to tell them directly to their faces or expect my money's worth at least, most of them hated it and either got stupidly offended or just stopped selling to me but hey i have the best dealer in this city now and have for over 10 years never needed another.. just by sifting through all the bull crap and he is actually a very legitimate grower i look up to as well, havent had the need to ever find one again in cases i do need to buy it.

with all these appliances like xbox, ps3, HDTV with 3D and tons of other crap running up your bill, having a small grow is nothing to worry about unless you are stupid with it, making it obvious what you are doing and pretty much asking to get arrested, other than that you really have nothing to worry about.

so my three tips are either stop spending a little cash here and there just to get by with garbage, save and tell your friend your not buying that crap anymore to either find a better source or find one yourself. i know how painful it can be to go without but whats the point if you arent really getting what you need anyway its much better to wait and find something thats worth the time and money.

or.. just grow on your own or move. one last thing, dont compare sativas to mexican grown crap, i promise you this as well there are very potent sativas out there that im sure would knock your socks off and be well enough to medicate, i just thought its a bad call to make your judgement on something just because of poorly grown mexican bud.

 

[AmeriSkunk]

well dude, i am in the same place you are in. is your bitching getting you anywhere but aggrivated and worked up? No, unless you grow your own you cant controll the quality, if you live in the south all the weed is imported unless its locally grown which is very obvious. im not saying grow your own and risk jail... god knows i went that road and got fuked out of lots of money and i dont mean by lost weed, i mean by court fees and lawyer fees, the south is a good ol boy network, every state is in a way essentially the same in the south as far as how the courts work. its a who you know type of deal, and prison is big business. they dont carewho breaks the laws, they just know that they have to make money for the state or the state doesnt have money to pay their asses, and being a judge and a cop is a job... how do you think they get pay raises? the DA where i live has a %100 conviction rate... tell me thats not some fucked up shit... so everyone that gets arrested and charged here gets convicted, there is no way around it except a plea deal. that or the charges get dropped... either way if you go before the judge you either cop a plea or you get convicted... Convicted doesnt always mean jail, im just saying %100 conviction rates advertkise corruption is going on... maybe you see my point.. i would just make the best of a bad situation or you might be going 3-5yrs withour your medicine... its for you to decide not us, all we can do is offer life experiences and what we would do in a similar situation.. i say base it on your life, not your life with weed and the legalities, base it on every other aspect of your life. then come to a conclusion about what you should do

 

[Rowdy420]

Go play disc golf somewhere in your neighborhood and I'll bet you'll soon find someone with KB, at least thats been my experience when traveling and at home. Lots of "kind" folks play disc and grow, even in non-med states.

Good luck, Peace

 

[guest86120975]

Go play disc golf somewhere in your neighborhood and I'll bet you'll soon find someone with KB, at least thats been my experience when traveling and at home. Lots of "kind" folks play disc and grow, even in non-med states.

Good luck, Peace

LOL, man, what is disc golf? It sounds like fun. The problem is I *do* know people..even the deadheads have only crap chemmy hydro. Pretty much all the weed is sprayed or tampered with somehow, or grown wrong. I don't get around as much as I used to, but it's been this way around here since I was in high school some years ago. I'm not in a small town, either...it's just the way it is here.