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Project EDEN - the COCO-COOP

Granger2

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Hi Bonecarver,
If the plants are pushing you out the door, you might want to do some judicious pruning. You grow sounds mighty purdy. Wanna trade crops?
granger
 
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bonecarver_OG

hehe :) no trading ;) hehe

yeah man i been pruning the lower parts of the big plants allready, but the problem is the height is reahing allredy the max heigth i can have in flowering. i can fix it either by lowering the bed/table or bending the plants like crazy :) im reluctant to cut away of the top part of the plants - but im even considering that to keep them lower.

rigth now im starting with building one more flowering space. i will use only 1000W in there, and i will take one light from my flowering room and leave there 1800W, and move my 400W from veg with one 600W from the flowering space, to the new 2nd flowering room. if that makes sence :D

i can still move over the flowering plants from one flowering space to an other if i need to :D

like this i hope to be able to flower a lot more of plants in a short time :D

peace all!
 

HazeVentura

Member
hola Bone,

long time no hear...grow on bro..... I have just planted some Beenieman's and some SSHxPTKxLP
next time with some pix.....

cya HV
 
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bonecarver_OG

awesome mate! i hope u get some fat phenos :D the ssh/ptk x lp has some really stretchy sativa dominant phenos. pretty much all phenos are very resinous, but most of them get increased bud size with pistolwhipping.

the beeniemans has some awesome phenos :) hope i sent some of the ssh/ptk x beeniemans, since that one has big yields and short flowering time. the pure beeniemans is not a big yielder. but instead its extreme resin content and some insane un-usual flavours and high potency :) if u got something else nice flowering, use the males to dust some females for awesome hybrids :D

peace mate!
 
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bonecarver_OG

i allready built most of the 2nd flowering room. i had most material laying around from earlier grow setups. only need to go get a floor fan and move over the lights after i have trovelled the walls with white super reflective plaster. i think it seems to be a really good option compared to the plastics and such.. might be a bit more work, but the material is really bright white and reflects a lot of light.

on sunday i might allready be moving over plants to the new flowering room. in this space im leaving the plants on the floor, and i skip completelly to build any kind of table or such since i dont plan to be using this space for too long. im hopefully moving over the plants to the other flowering space withing weeks. i will cover the floor with plastic and put the trays on top of blocks, just to get it high enough to fit some kind of container below.

its hard work to be in the grow-area in the heat we got now.. specially it feels annoying since with the heat the end results dont get as good as it should, but its still more than 3 times the work compared to colder season.

some plants are more heat sensitive than others... there is allways some phenos that seem almost un-affected (more purer inidica), but the more sativa leaning plants tend to open up the bud structure and almost seem to compete with each other in fox-tailing. as long as the resin content is not affected, i dont care too much.

the ones that do care are the mates that get a few bags now and then. they expect prime quality allways. not much to do than just keep working :) an airconditioner would mean an additional 2000W and even if i got one portable aircon ready to move in (bulky heavy mofo!), im for now deciding against using it.

next plant for harvest is just a week or so from getting ready. the blockhead/blueberry x beeniemans is an amazing producer. huge top kolas and lots of resing all the way down. with the look of it im sure its would yield well on even the lowest branches if i wouldnt have the floweing area so crowded. i could have pistolwhipped it but i thought i wanted to see how it behaves when not interfered with. this is my 2nd femlae of this cross i flower, and i think its definetly top notch. i cant wait to plant more of it. fast also. seems to be done about a month before the SSD and AH crosses in flowering. it is also about 2 weeks or so earlier than the ssh/ptk i have had as a favorite for years (soon a decade looking after it :D)

peace all and have a nice summer!
 
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bonecarver_OG

the blockberry / beeniemans in flowering is maturing very fast :) max a few days left! :D :D
 
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dramamine

Is that the block/blue x beeniemans you're cutting then? This cross really sounds like it could really be very nice. Block & Blue! hehe...peace man
 
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bonecarver_OG

yeah man its rock solid! :D i will take pics :D

the SSD (hazeventura) and ssh/ptk/ptk crossed really nicelly :) there is some variation, but most i have checked has a sour pungent smell. some phenos are fatter than others, but all in all its nice resin coverage. i know 35ºC is propably not going to make them show their full potencial but with the long flowering time i hope they will solid up later. some have started to fiull up properly, but this is when the blockhead/beeniemans is allready finishing off.

i cant say wich is the latest yet, amnesia haze/ssh/ptk/ptk or SSD/ssh/ptk/ptk. the amnesia haze cross shows a lot more sativa dominance, and i dont really know at all how long it can take, but atleast in the pheno i can see the best there is a lot of resin. might be odd sativa shaped kolas, but it really looks like top class smoke :) last time i flowered of this cross i had a lot of PM and i didnt really get a chance to explore the flavours much and instead i made a lot of BHO.. so im stoked :) there is 2 other amnesiahaze crosses there and they seem to take longer to build up. even though one of them seems to have a lot of PTK influence in the structure but obviously not in flowering speed.

monday or tuesday i will move over and plug in the new flowering room. i still got left the plastering of the walls, and pulling in cables, but its a quicky i will do rigth before setting up.

the bunch that will go to flowering is mostly ssh/ptk x beeniemans. im most likelly let a male or two be in there for the flowering, to keep building on the F2 pile.

all in all its good i got the 2nd room done finally, since it will take stress of the first room for a bit. since the plants in there are going to take so long to flower, i will need to put new ones in allready to make sure i got most of the big plants flowered before its vacation and camping trip time. i got about 2 months exactly, so im definetly pushing it. luckilly the ssh/ptk/beeniemans are fast flowering.. also i think the jamaican part of the cross really helps to handle heat... :) since crosses with it behaves more reliable than others i flowered during past summers.

peace!
 
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bonecarver_OG

this blockberry beeniemans wasnt even completelly under the lights. maybe thats why it did so well thru the heat we have been having...

big yield.. filled up half screen with really dense fat nugs..

sorry for remembering to grab the camera after i almost had cut down the plant.. hehe

for size comparison i left my big garden cutters in the stem where i was going to cut it.

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holding up two nugs i allready cut in front of the two from earleir..

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some closer shots..

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all in all quite nice. not as good as in colder seasons.. but what can we do :) anyway by the looks of it - im sure im going to enjoy it well :) as allways this far with the beeniemans, it dominates flavours and smells in the outcome. no hint at all of blueberry in this. just sour-tropical-fruit-skunky mayhem, true to the beeniemans. im going to plants all the seeds i got of this cross as soon as i can (meaning this autumn) since i think im just going to leave for now all other crosses im working with and just concentrate on the beeniemans crosses.

the short flowering times, the nice yields, the top potency all makes me just want to forget about planting anything else. right now all other plants in flowering look like they have about 3-4 weeks left of flowering, and even so i doubt some of them will fatten up properly. a lot can have to do with the extreme heat, some strains just cant handle it as well...

anyhow, the 2nd flowering room is going to get plugged in tomorow. plants are allready in there for a extra long night before the flowering starts. i did some serious lollipoppin/pistolwhippin to see if its going to make things smoother in there. im still thinking back and forth about what lights to move in, but i think i finally settled on 1x600W for now, and when i can i might throw in more. but with the heat we got i doubt its a good idea atm.

the 2nd room is full of SSH/PTK x beeniemans (well 7plants, but they are huge!) and since i got a bunch of males that are very vigorous and strong smelling, i will flower them with the females. its going to be hell to pick seeds all autumn, but i get a lot of work done if i can make a few 100 seeds. i want to have several 1000's for the next selection rounds. (wich i got very soon) :D

peace all!
 
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bonecarver_OG

waiting patiently for the amnesiahaze/ssh/ptk/ptk's to finish.. also the SSD/ssh/ptk/ptk are slow to finish... lots of sativa influence.. strange with so small part of SSH... the amnesia haze cross i can see why it takes long beeing very sativa dominant, but it surprises me the SSD cross also takes long.
 

gaiusmarius

me
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looking good as always man, that's a really nice looking yield on that lady. it looks like you are having some mite trouble with it? so glad i've been spared the mites since i started with all seeds again.

seems like i'll be flowering some sour amnesia very soon, haven't done any haze crosses for years myself so should be fun.

good growings :wave:
 
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bonecarver_OG

actually its thrips :)

i havent seen any mites since i blasted them with a combo of abamectine and and something i got sent from germany (spinnmebenfrei!! thanks haze!!! :D )

i havent really bothered to do anything about it since im so reluctant to poison use. i got more aware about how sensitive my pets are and im scetched out.

but sooner or later it will be time to spray down the grow.

the blockberry x beeniemans is awesome :) im smoking some crisp nugs :D things dry fast as hell in the heat we got :D pushing 40cº all over south spain now! the top kolas are massive and i wil ltake some pics soon.

im honestly half exited half disapointed on the amnesia haze / ssh/ptk/ptk since its way too much sativa dominance for me. we are talking about a good 12 weeks of flowering or more, and that for nugs that have the typical sativa heat symptomes of foxtails. im sure its gonna be good smoke but comercially its so un interesting it could be. its ok, i will smoke the top kolas and make ice hash with the lower parts. the resin coverage is really good, but the foxtails might ruin parts of it. anyway still i know from earlier tests i planted, the potency is really good and it will make up for the rest.

partially i think the heat is to blame. some plants just cant handle the temps i got in the growarea. i said it before but the crosses with the beeniemans (jamaica) really handles the heat and humidity well. maybe it is a misstake to plant the amnesia haze and SSD crosses in the hottest season we got but sometimes i dont really think of all possible negative sides when deciding for what to grow from the collection.

anyway rigth now 1/3 amneisa hazes look really good. one is ok, and the last i cant see, its too far inside the grow area.

the ssd/ssh/ptk/ptk has out of 5 plants - 1 looks amazing resin-wise, 3 are big yielders, and the last is so late flowering and bushy i doubt it will fill up properly. this one is also too far inside the flowering area for me to be able to get to it and trim it down properly.

in the new flowering room the SSH/ptk x beeniemans have been really properlly lollipopped and should behave really well. i expect nice yield in there. i hope for some big phenos :D the good thing is its going to be fast :D im sure withing 8 weeks im cutting them! gonna be a relief to trim compared to the coming sativa domimant plants...

peace all!
 
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bonecarver_OG

the blockberry beeniemans has a kinda interesting high

it makes me forget to smoke
hm...
 

gaiusmarius

me
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yeah but sometimes those airy haze buds give the best possible type of high. those 12 weeks have to count for some thing, lol. yeah i'm having heat trouble too, but nothing like in the south of Spain. but still hot enough to make it hard to keep temps bellow 30° all the time. at least the outdoor girls should be doing well in this weather. unless te deer have developed a taste for te clones now too, lol.

anyway keep it up mistah.

oh.....btw, i'm getting much more interested in the natural remedies and preventatives for pest and pm problems too. just now i'm making some nettle FPE, fermented plant extract tea, this has lots of really helpful stuff to make the plants naturally more resistant and feed it. apparently treating plants regularly with a diluted spray of this nettle extract will stop things like pm from even showing up. then there is also horsetail tea, which has silica and will also help the plants be stronger. there are a couple of very interesting threads on this subject going. on the one hand there is the aspect of using actual weeds as food for your garden, but then there is the aspect of using weeds to strengthen your plants, get rid of pests, when concentrated enough even as a herbicide. so my nettle FPE is brewing, can't wait to try it when its ready in 2 weeks.
 
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bonecarver_OG

yeah man :) ppl here also refomend the nettle sprays :D

i tried today a microwaved small hazy nug of the amnesia haze /Ssh/ptk/ptk and yup.. hazy! and i think its at tops 2 weeks from getting done. i think :D lets hope soo! anyway fluffy but head spinning!

horsetail i dont think i cant find it here in these season of the year, but i should have a look! :D

actually the hazy nug is quite potent and taste is nice even though i smoked it with some of the sugar leaf.... and im surprised the high is still kicking even though it was microwave dried! hehe now i atleast can relax knowing it will be nice smoke in the end :D

peace!
 

gaiusmarius

me
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the horsetail needs a swampy area to live, either that or near the banks of rivers and lakes. the one herb i haven't found yet locally is comfrey, which is a great flowering nutrient when made into fpe.
 
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bonecarver_OG

yeah i bet thats why we dont have any horsetail rigth here, this beeing pretty much semi desertic.

comfrey is consuelda in spanish and cant find it here either. down here the climate is very different to middle europe. this is more like north africa hehe :D

:D peace!
 
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bonecarver_OG

wow... heat wave and smoking the last of the stash i have of premium nugs of ssh/ptk x beeniemans is leaving me knocked out.

hard to do anything, even if i try :D

peace
 

gaiusmarius

me
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yeah hot here too, but we are having a nice cooling thunder storm now after a day of hot sun. my out door should love it if it's not deer food yet. :)
 
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bonecarver_OG

nice with thunderstorms! we havent had any proper rain for a while now (2 months). hopefully in august we get some rains. usually we get some by then :D

we hardly have clouds even.

its just banging sun outside and nowhere to hide!

today i saw my neighbour has a plant outside he got it hidden under some orange trees. i think i will have to do something similar :D im going to look for a spot in my veggie garden to take out one cut later :D hopefully i can hide it between my chili bushes :D jsut gotto pick some REALLY short variety :D hehe

i might finally get to do it this year :D all depends on how the veggie plot developes :D

i want to do it for fun, since hiding a small plant will propably make it impossible to get any proper yields to talk about. hehe definetly not anything to post in the big outdoor plant thread anyway hehehe :D :D

anyway im keen on giving it a try, maybe even hide one inbetween the tomatoes! :D hehe lets see if i can. i wish i hadnt so much open view directly to my garden. almost impossible to find one hidden spot in there atm.

seriously want to do a nice outdoor one year, but i gotto re-do the fence of my property or cover it with something.

peace
 
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