Whats been your experience with fem seeds?

[zachrockbadenof]

I've had female seeds easy sativa show me male preflowers when I first put them outside but when they actually went into flowering a month or 2 later they showed no herm tendencies and produced very nice flowers

we had hangin sacks... and after a week they 'looked' ready to explode... hence they were culled...

 

[The End Is Near]

I think this fem=herm is overblown. A lot of standard seeds will herm under less than optimal conditions, ie too much N/heat. Lots of people have no problems with fems.

I had a fem strain (can't mention it, TOU) that threw a couple bananas which I left on out of curiosity, but never released pollen or made seeds. Second run was the same, but I did get a single immature seed in a spot away from the nanners. Not at all a dealbreaker. What made me drop the strain was the dark, floral, grandma-perfume like muskiness that is apparently common in purple strains.

If you're buying IBLs, landraces, and breeding stock I'd stick to standard for males, but for hybrids/plants for smoke, fems shouldn't be written off.

 

[bobjoe 69]

never had problem fem seeds

 

[CapoDiesel]

If you want to keep a mum, forget feminized seeds... only i use them when i have a limited number of plants for growing...
if you are waiting for quality, no doubt you have to use regular seeds

I saw plants of fem seeds use to be weak plants, breaking branches easy, hermaphroditism...

The problem is all these copy-banks that don't select well, don't work and sell their seeds expensiver than originals..

 

[Hemphrey Bogart]

Grew out a few super lemon haze from GHS, my first seeds from GHS actually.

3/5 of the phenos I got were excellent, the other ones were just ok, good for hash making. No hermies here despite having some small light leaks in my new room.

The SLH is very good smoke. Not sure about the rest of the greenhouse stuff, but their SLH is a good one.

HB.

 

[D.S. Toker. MD]

If you want to keep a mum, forget feminized seeds... only i use them when i have a limited number of plants for growing...
if you are waiting for quality, no doubt you have to use regular seeds

I saw plants of fem seeds use to be weak plants, breaking branches easy, hermaphroditism...

The problem is all these copy-banks that don't select well, don't work and sell their seeds expensiver than originals..

Ease up good buddy. I have a DP blueberry mom from femmed seeds 5 years ago and she is a dream. I get on my knees and look at her. If i could give you a cut i would and you could experience her joyous giggley fruity buzz all by yourself.

 

[BlueGrassToker]

There is nothing genetically that would cause a plant, brought about by a forcing of a female to pollinate another female, to be "weaker" than it's regular half siblings brought about by regular male/female pollination. It just isn't so. Branches do indeed NOT break easier, nor do they have any more propensity to show hermaphrodite than regular seeds do.
You are correct in saying that selection is the key, and it was the key to anything you saw before. Any weakness' or propensity to hermie is simply a result of the parent plants chosen to breed with, and has absolutely nothing to do with if the pollen came from a male of the line or a female of the line.
The female/female breeding is actually a better scenario if you are looking for the best plants. See, we can judge the real world prowess of a female...whereas with a male it takes lots of progeny testing to even be able to know if the male may work out well or not. It could easily be the carrier of weak, hermie proned genes, yet how would you know this? You wouldn't...unless you went through the painstaking task of testing the male prior to using him. This could take several grows....at the very least.
I can examine and pretty well know what any given female holds in her genes in the matter of a grow or two.

 

[bobman]

If you want to keep a mum, forget feminized seeds... only i use them when i have a limited number of plants for growing...
if you are waiting for quality, no doubt you have to use regular seeds

I saw plants of fem seeds use to be weak plants, breaking branches easy, hermaphroditism...

The problem is all these copy-banks that don't select well, don't work and sell their seeds expensiver than originals..

untrue, sounds like grower error. please name strains and more specifics if you want to be taken seriously. I do agree that there are plenty of banks that do not select well and have no quality control.

 

[CapoDiesel]

i can understand that bad germination of seeds, 80% of facts is error of keeping in the growshop, not of growers (because every plant received the same cares by me)

and i'm not saying fem seeds are shit... only that you will need a bigger number of seed to find the special one. and depending of the bank yuo are using his seeds... because I trust in the seeds of some seedbanks

fm seeds have to be well worked and selected... and not all banks do this, that's i'm trying to say

 

[bobman]

i dont see how you can say you need bigger numbers to find that special one. As far as the other stuff I agree but just not for fems but for regular seeds as well. To much hacking and propaganda.

 

[CapoDiesel]

I'll explain one more time I thing fem seeds about.

is a lot of things that all togheter makes me hate them.
I think feminized seeds remove you freedoms, because don't see it as a better thing than regulars... you don't have a male to make your our seeds.

I prefer then, remove yourself any male... so I said before, only I use feminized seeds when for example I only can have 2 or 3 plants and I want to know before that all plants will be females.

but apart from this, i can't see any special characteristic for choose them.

Are clear i mean?

 

[bobman]

Yea, I understand that. I used to think fems are bad because they remove you ability create f2 seeds. Almost like a coming monopoly on male genetics. Honestly, I have come to the realization that I will never make seeds. But what has interested me is reversing a proven female and pollenate another proven female. Adding another strain to the rotation is time consuming and space consuming so female seeds just make that easier.

 

[gasman420]

hey newcs. wow you have already got a lot of good advice on this thread so ill just say i have used fems for years and the only bad ones i got (hermies) were gh the church. most companies have got them dialed in now. to be safe do a search on the ones you are interested in and see if anyone has done threads on whether they are good or bad. there are a tonne of great grow threads for most of the popular seeds. best of luck with your choice and grow. take her easy

 

[bobman]

The best way I have found to find out the truth is to pm members about their experience. Look for active members that mentioned they are growing that strain in one of those glorious reviewed grow threads but never really mentioned it again. A lot of people are afraid to mention bad results. You would be surprised to hear the results. Right now the best reviewed seeds, from PM, on my list are Chimera Snaz#2. This comes from people that mentioned they are growing it but never posted results. Oh yea, super lemon haze got just as good of marks as well but I have grown that one and can concur.

 

[CapoDiesel]

Honestly, I have come to the realization that I will never make seeds..

If it will be unbaned, i don't want to be always buying seeds for the business of some people.. I try making my seeds, to be more experienced you need to try.

Probably, you will never make comercial seeds (me not, sure) but make seeds is very easy.

Isn't the same to breed than make seeds.

 

[bobman]

I guess I look at it like this. There is an old saying "just because you make a baby it does not make you a parent" I think applies to this. Just because you make seeds does not make you a breeder. I must admit I am very intrigued by the thought of growing out f2's or crossing different plants to really see some diversity and find the next great thing. But, how often are you going to find something special enough to do this? I don't know. I mean if I were to create seeds and knew if I planted ten of these seeds that one of those plants were going to be equal to or better than the parents than yes. I guess I think I just have a better chance with a so called professionals seeds given a small sample size. I dont know though because to be honest I have not found anything special from the pro's in a long time. SLH looks promising we shall see.

 

[djingo]

hi,
if you pop fems to flower them, fems can work.
dats what they do in holland alot, since the major cutting supliers closed doors.
if you like to keep a mother out of fems, you will need to select her with care.

my experience with fems are not good.
1. the natural pool of genes in a strain was reduced to the "selfed plant´s" genes, when selfing it.
2. problems with hermies, serious problem if your goal is quality bud
3. overpriced, too many unknown seed companies
4. breeding with fems is not interesting for people who know

peace,
Djingo

 

[roach]

had great results with femmed seeds, only ones i had problems with was from sensi and ace seeds, getting full males in my femmed seeds means i never buy from that company again, but all the other i have tried have been great, a few nanners now and then maybe, but nothing bad enough to cut the plants down (and you can get a few nanners in your normal seeds too)

 

[BlueGrassToker]

hi,
if you pop fems to flower them, fems can work.
dats what they do in holland alot, since the major cutting supliers closed doors.
if you like to keep a mother out of fems, you will need to select her with care.

my experience with fems are not good.
1. the natural pool of genes in a strain was reduced to the "selfed plant´s" genes, when selfing it.
2. problems with hermies, serious problem if your goal is quality bud
3. overpriced, too many unknown seed companies
4. breeding with fems is not interesting for people who know

peace,
Djingo

For those even more in the know...fems are a valuable and very interesting method/tool of breeding. And they can be a much better way to a stable line than with traditional breeding methods.
Hermie prone plants are not a product of feminizing in any way. What brings them in feminizing also brings them in regular m/f breeding. -That being poor selection methods, nothing more nothing less.
(shrug)

 

[djingo]

For those even more in the know...fems are a valuable and very interesting method/tool of breeding. And they can be a much better way to a stable line than with traditional breeding methods.
Hermie prone plants are not a product of feminizing in any way. What brings them in feminizing also brings them in regular m/f breeding. -That being poor selection methods, nothing more nothing less.
(shrug)

well, serious breeder do not work with femenised seeds in their breeding programs. sure, it can save time if you self an outstanding mother which has prooven to be a real fem
and use her polen.
but, this ain´t the real deal imao.

peace