Advanced Nutrients = Fuckin BULLSHIT

[farmdalefurr]

See the problem is that "Big Mike" purports AN to be specifically formulated for MJ. So it stands to reason that some people would look at the the bottle and feed exactly what the bottle says, you know, since it's specifically formulated for MJ.
So who's at fault?

not one bottle ive ever bought said anything about being formulated for MJ. even if you think it wouldnt hurt your plants b/c its "for MJ", you have to be aware that they tested on different plants, with different genes, under different conditions. too many variables. id never use my sensi a/b (depending on plant age,size,feeding tolerance) big bud,bud candy,nirvana or overdrive at the recommended 2ml/L unless my plants were rockin the shit and i knew they could handle it. its all about the research. YOUR OWN research. it took me close to a year to buy any products from AN, just from all the hearsay. after my research, seeing what worked for other people, what didnt work, i went ahead and, as my guy at the hydro shop says, went to the "darkside". he uses the entire line and still calls them the "darkside", just because people feel the need to talk shit.

 

[greenmatter]

See the problem is that "Big Mike" purports AN to be specifically formulated for MJ. So it stands to reason that some people would look at the the bottle and feed exactly what the bottle says, you know, since it's specifically formulated for MJ.
So who's at fault?

with ya on the fact that "big mike" talks through the wrong hole, but i think that has been posted on this site about 1000 times.

i think the lesson on this one is don't believe the hype .....EVER ..... ABOUT ANYTHING!

not trying to slam the OP but believing everything on any label can get you in trouble.

 

[teemu shalanie]

I am using ph perfect 3 part wit , b52 , for veg @ 1000 ppm , In h20 and in dirt with good results in both systems, I always check ppm , and ph too but I dont adjust ph @ all. the only complaint I have is you use lots of nutes, @ 4ml per litre.I go through this shit like water ,lol
TS

 

[Guest 18340]

not one bottle ive ever bought said anything about being formulated for MJ. even if you think it wouldnt hurt your plants b/c its "for MJ", you have to be aware that they tested on different plants, with different genes, under different conditions. too many variables. id never use my sensi a/b (depending on plant age,size,feeding tolerance) big bud,bud candy,nirvana or overdrive at the recommended 2ml/L unless my plants were rockin the shit and i knew they could handle it. its all about the research. YOUR OWN research. it took me close to a year to buy any products from AN, just from all the hearsay. after my research, seeing what worked for other people, what didnt work, i went ahead and, as my guy at the hydro shop says, went to the "darkside". he uses the entire line and still calls them the "darkside", just because people feel the need to talk shit.

Read my post again. I never said the bottle labels say it's formulated for MJ, it's Big Mikes big mouth that says so...

 

[growshopfrank]

Insanity is doing the same thing, over and over again, but expecting different results."
— Albert Einstein

 

[farmdalefurr]

Read my post again. I never said the bottle labels say it's formulated for MJ, it's Big Mikes big mouth that says so...

oh...excuse me....... 1000 pardons your highness. i dont read/listen/search for anything that this "big mike" says.

 

[YosemiteSam]

I have a slightly different take than most people in this thread.

I don't believe it is the overall strength, or EC, that is the problem with AN. I just think AN has their ratios all fucked up, especially their K:N and cation ratios.

If those were right you could push it pretty freakin hard without hurting a thing and you would, in fact, get higher yields.

When the ratios are wrong and you try to push it you just exacerbate lock outs.

My take is that ANs formula sucks...not the OPs use of it.

 

[RubeGoldberg]

you probably had the wrong bottles, did it actually say PH perfect? they've been advertising the shit outta it, however its not available anywhere in the United States unless you mail order it.

 

[supermanlives]

expensive lesson. hope you learned something

 

[danks]

an tests thier nutes on heavy feeding commercial large plants not small hybrids.

 

[mg75]

an tests thier nutes on heavy feeding commercial large plants not small hybrids.

i don't really use their products (had a terrible experience with connoisseur developing some white fungus/mould inside the B bottle), but i have seen some killer grows from people using their products. i guess it was bad luck on my part and user error on other people's part. their stuff works just as good as other companies... but not better.

 

[HerbalToker]

First time looking at this thread since i made it all mad haha. I was def inately really angry. My garden is doing fine, but i basically flushed everything till it started waning food again.

Thanks for all you responses, i totaly wasnt trying to blams AN for me overferting. I was just trying to prove the point that everyone makes. They lie and are recommending too high.

I did work the way up to full feed but i guess i was to fast. I still wontbother with this BS anymore iv grown too many beautiful organic nugs.. ill dip a meter...

Peace guys ill post harvest shots.

HT

 

[Scrogerman]

Thats what you get trying to do a grow without the correct equipment, you gotta have an EC meter growing hydro, simple as that(unless your sensible, as it can be done without one if you know how) PH meters a must too(still needs balancing to start). AN dropped calling the new lines PPM perfect & changed it to just 'PH' perfect, says it all to me. Try doing it with the right gear & like has been mentioned start on 1/4 strength & work up.
Grower error, i hate to say it but that aint AN's fault.

where did the ppm perfect go lol? http://www.advancednutrients.com/hy...nsi_bloom/sensi_bloom_product_information.php

i am starting to hear good reports btw.

 

[HerbalToker]

Youll see if you read a bit closer sgrogerman..
I dont grow hydro first of all... And i do haveec andph meter. I was TESTING AN's word on there PH PPM Perfect. Soo them changing the name is just another fact shoeing how they promote BS before they even know what theyr talking about.

once again, i did work up to full strength. And i am not totaly blaming AN.. i took the leap to see if the shit actually worked. And as mentioned, i flushed Am back to adjusting PPM and shits lookin better.

Although it was interesting to see the leaves keep browning as i did a bit of a flush, and the browing turning into a yellow flush result lol. Thats when i figured im good to start back on and finihs the round off 1/4 and half strength.

Thanks again guys.

 

[Benuw]

Good luck. I would give every new fertilizer schedule multiple rounds, adjusting your formula along the way using your meters and common sense. Can't write any chemical off until you actually run it to it's potential.

 

[Scrogerman]

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[hydroton man]

First time looking at this thread since i made it all mad haha. I was def inately really angry. My garden is doing fine, but i basically flushed everything till it started waning food again.

Thanks for all you responses, i totaly wasnt trying to blams AN for me overferting. I was just trying to prove the point that everyone makes. They lie and are recommending too high.

I did work the way up to full feed but i guess i was to fast. I still wontbother with this BS anymore iv grown too many beautiful organic nugs.. ill dip a meter...

Peace guys ill post harvest shots.

HT

Hey Herbal, did you ever find out what happened to burn your plants??

I have been a LONG time GH user, and figured I would try AN because I got a good deal on the nutes...

After I got them I started researching AN, thus me finding your thread here.. But I honestly do not see how your plants got nute burn so bad..


I have a 15gal res and using the 3 part + B52..
For my 15gal res, they want 228mL of 3 part and 114mL of B-52..

So I started out with 57mL (1/4 strength) of the 3 part and 28-1/2mL (1/4 strength) of B-52 and got 282ppm...

Then I mixed in 57mL more of the 3 part and 28-1/2mL more of B-52 and got as expected 597ppm..

I then added another 57mL of the 3 part and 28-1/2mL of B-52, guess around what I got... Yep add just about 300ppm more, you guessed it, I got 789ppm


Even if you had mixed it full strength, you only would have been around 1200ppm (give or take), which IMO is not going to burn up your plants like the image you posted...


So I was just wondering if you ever figured out what you did wrong to burn your plants up and if so, will you please let us know???


Thanks

 

[cateros]

full dosage and no meters? what nute line would not toast your plants? big mike and the claims he makes are bullshit but you can't hang this on AN. does anyone run full strength nutes?

Actually if you start at 1ml /litre for the first 2 weeks after seedling stage then 2ml/litre once the plants have 4 full sets of leaves for 3 more weeks once the plant is about 7-9 internodes high 4ml/litre and my chees plants have shown no sign of burn except for one that I did a test with humbolts bushmaster on. And as a side note my nutrient formula is 2ml/l mother earth super tea grow or bloom depending on stage, 4ml/l sensi grow/bloom , and calmag every other week to prevent any cal/mag def, and in flower I only add big bud from week 2-5 and overdrive from week 6-7 and then flush for 10 days .

 

[cateros]

I have to mention however that when I mix my nutes using 2ml mother earth super tea/l,2ml big bud/l ,4ml/l sensi a&B ,and 1.25ml cal mag/l my ppms are 1250 and after leaving the jugs overnite the ph always balances to 6.3ph I am however using ppm/ph perfect and the only burn I ever saw was when I tested out 1.25ml bushmaster on one plant and it is very minor appear as nothing more then very minor burn along the edges of less then 15% of the plant. However all other clones of this strain are showing now burn at this feeding rate.