Doing it Outside 2011
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welcome to my out door fun
welcome to my out door fun
yeah man, i hope you get those bastid slugs under control. been having a rainy couple of days here too, so i'm glad my mate remembered the slug pellets. even though i'm sure the rain will slowly decrease their effectiveness.
i totally hear you about going to the spot regularly, but the trouble is the ticks. last time we were literally picking them off each other like monkeys there were so many and it took till hours later at home to get the last few off my clothes. so i'm kinda put off from going any more then i absolutely have to. i guess going on rainy days with lots of clothes on is probably the best bet, but i told my mate to ask his forester mate how they deal with the extreme tick
problem in some of these areas?
yeah the 2 spots are really quite good, but they will depend on a bit of luck too. that's the other side of the ticks, not many people will leave the forest tracks in that area. this time of year the bushes are so tight that you'd need a machete to cut a path, to have a chance not to brush up against so much vegetation, but then you have a fucking great path leading straight to your plots lol. thanks for the good wishes man.
cheers, some good luck is always useful, eh?
thanks man, will surely be another interesting year, just as long as those seedlings survive the first few weeks we should be good to go. i really should go check up on them, just in case any need replacing. still have my top44 x SD/CJ seeds to chuck into any holes where the plants don't survive.
great to have you all along, lets hope there is something nice to show at the end
peace and good growings
welcome to my out door fun
i will win the war on slugs if its the last thing i do ...lol
Im going to go get some maxicrop as i think the plants need a feed im going down this weekend to see if they are ok , i hate being away from them for more than a week i tend to worry about them like they are my children .
lets hope we all have a fruitful year
yeah man, i hope you get those bastid slugs under control. been having a rainy couple of days here too, so i'm glad my mate remembered the slug pellets. even though i'm sure the rain will slowly decrease their effectiveness.
i totally hear you about going to the spot regularly, but the trouble is the ticks. last time we were literally picking them off each other like monkeys there were so many and it took till hours later at home to get the last few off my clothes. so i'm kinda put off from going any more then i absolutely have to. i guess going on rainy days with lots of clothes on is probably the best bet, but i told my mate to ask his forester mate how they deal with the extreme tick
problem in some of these areas?
yeah the 2 spots are really quite good, but they will depend on a bit of luck too. that's the other side of the ticks, not many people will leave the forest tracks in that area. this time of year the bushes are so tight that you'd need a machete to cut a path, to have a chance not to brush up against so much vegetation, but then you have a fucking great path leading straight to your plots lol. thanks for the good wishes man.
Good luck.....scribed
cheers, some good luck is always useful, eh?
thanks man, will surely be another interesting year, just as long as those seedlings survive the first few weeks we should be good to go. i really should go check up on them, just in case any need replacing. still have my top44 x SD/CJ seeds to chuck into any holes where the plants don't survive.
great to have you all along, lets hope there is something nice to show at the end
peace and good growings
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bonecarver_OG
i think it looks like u are in for a really nice season! i hear ya on the tics! it really sucks to go out in the bush in tick season! but they might help you keep looters far from your plot!
i see a lot of snail bait its made out of cornmeal and metaldehyde. very scary stuff. if it gets in contact with plants, the plants do absorb it. its poisonous to animals too. http://www.dogchatforum.com/snailbait-poisoning-dogs.htm
there is several other newer scientifically proven non poisonous methods for snails. most of them are ok to plant and animal life. for example chelated iron is used in comercial agriculture in many places and is not dangerous. rather it nutes ur garden since iron poisoning is unlikelly i use chelated iron with really good results. the moluscs are sensitive for iron, wich makes them dehydrate by producing slime untill they dry out.
also a really good tip is to put something over the snail bait to protect it from rain, since it looses the venom in contact with water, like this it will keep active for much longer. same goes with the chelated iron granules. cover it with pottery chards, tree bark or stones, but leave a gap the snails can come in thru. the snails love shaded humid spots so they will get lured into the death trap this tip might help other guerilla growers too. it works in my veggie and flower garden and should do the same elsewhere
good luck mate!
i see a lot of snail bait
its made out of cornmeal and metaldehyde. very scary stuff. if it gets in contact with plants, the plants do absorb it. its poisonous to animals too. http://www.dogchatforum.com/snailbait-poisoning-dogs.htmthere is several other newer scientifically proven non poisonous methods for snails. most of them are ok to plant and animal life. for example chelated iron is used in comercial agriculture in many places and is not dangerous. rather it nutes ur garden since iron poisoning is unlikelly
i use chelated iron with really good results. the moluscs are sensitive for iron, wich makes them dehydrate by producing slime untill they dry out.also a really good tip is to put something over the snail bait to protect it from rain, since it looses the venom in contact with water, like this it will keep active for much longer. same goes with the chelated iron granules. cover it with pottery chards, tree bark or stones, but leave a gap the snails can come in thru. the snails love shaded humid spots so they will get lured into the death trap
this tip might help other guerilla growers too. it works in my veggie and flower garden and should do the same elsewhere good luck mate!
i think it looks like u are in for a really nice season! i hear ya on the tics! it really sucks to go out in the bush in tick season! but they might help you keep looters far from your plot!
i see a lot of snail bait
there is several other newer scientifically proven non poisonous methods for snails. most of them are ok to plant and animal life. for example chelated iron is used in comercial agriculture in many places and is not dangerous. rather it nutes ur garden since iron poisoning is unlikelly
also a really good tip is to put something over the snail bait to protect it from rain, since it looses the venom in contact with water, like this it will keep active for much longer. same goes with the chelated iron granules. cover it with pottery chards, tree bark or stones, but leave a gap the snails can come in thru. the snails love shaded humid spots so they will get lured into the death trap
good luck mate!
wow man that's a shock! that shit has written on the box that it does no harm to any animals except snails and that it does no harm to the plant life! that seems like the exact opposite of what you are saying, its called adalon. it says no harm to pets and other animals and the stuff degrades to phosphorus and iron like you can naturally find in the earth it says. for use in biological gardens it says.
edited to add: these are based on chelated iron it says on box.
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bonecarver_OG
awesome !
edit - chelated iron ok awesome! then ill just keep using the chelated iron i get in the product shop
! edit - chelated iron
ok awesome! then ill just keep using the chelated iron i get in the product shop 
charlie_mops
Member
Get something with Eisen-III-Phosphat like Ferramol. That should do the trick...
One thing to add.. and IMHO if snails are a big problem at your spot you should fix that asap.. first add anti-snail-collar. they can be bought at around 2 or 3euro (or you build em for free out of empty beer cans).
The second point: You shouldnt draw circles on the ground with your snail bait. Spread it out on a wider area. More like a minefield
You might also have to reapply the snail bait after some time/rain..
stay safe
One thing to add.. and IMHO if snails are a big problem at your spot you should fix that asap.. first add anti-snail-collar. they can be bought at around 2 or 3euro (or you build em for free out of empty beer cans).
The second point: You shouldnt draw circles on the ground with your snail bait. Spread it out on a wider area. More like a minefield
You might also have to reapply the snail bait after some time/rain..
stay safe
I have slugs at the locations I use every season,pretty simple remedy is a cup or can of beer next to each plant,bury it at least half way so it wont tip over.Damn slugs love the beer....they crawl in and die lol.
Every time I visit,which is usually every few weeks I just empty out the dead slugs add some fresh beer.
Every time I visit,which is usually every few weeks I just empty out the dead slugs add some fresh beer.
Heya GM,
Kind of a late comer, but glad I did my homework! Best wishes on this years grow. It's always difficult leaving the girls on their OD, I feel your pain
But those ticks man, not fun... Watch out for Lime disease too.
Like Charlie said, I would spread them pellets a bit more, so that there's no blue crop circle on the floor
These and beer act by attracting slugs, depending of how bad your prob is, you might want to use a can trap, think Esbe posted a nice pic showing the steps.
Happy growing!
B
Kind of a late comer, but glad I did my homework! Best wishes on this years grow. It's always difficult leaving the girls on their OD, I feel your pain
But those ticks man, not fun... Watch out for Lime disease too.
Like Charlie said, I would spread them pellets a bit more, so that there's no blue crop circle on the floor
These and beer act by attracting slugs, depending of how bad your prob is, you might want to use a can trap, think Esbe posted a nice pic showing the steps. Happy growing!
B
Savage Seeds
Active member
Amazing brother it don't get no better then outdoor as far as adventure goes! I hear ya on the ticks there's a shitload of the fuckers around this joint
Looking good really like your choice of spots. Looks like some water soluble around the edge? Ticks and mosquitoes, nettles and heavy brush are your buddies if they weren’t there everyone would be a guerrilla.
Good luck to ya and for some unknown reason i always love the picks where your shadow shows up in them next time you need to give us some thumbs up or peace.
Good luck to ya and for some unknown reason i always love the picks where your shadow shows up in them next time you need to give us some thumbs up or peace.
awesome
edit - chelated iron
yeah i'd not use something poisonous in a natural environment. this stiff will be beneficial to the plants once it decomposes.
Get something with Eisen-III-Phosphat like Ferramol. That should do the trick...
One thing to add.. and IMHO if snails are a big problem at your spot you should fix that asap.. first add anti-snail-collar. they can be bought at around 2 or 3euro (or you build em for free out of empty beer cans).
The second point: You shouldnt draw circles on the ground with your snail bait. Spread it out on a wider area. More like a minefield
You might also have to reapply the snail bait after some time/rain..
stay safe
i do think you are right, will have to re aply snail pellets, will not make circles next time. was thinking of it being a wall for them to cross. i don't think, the snails wil be a huge problem, but if i notice the need, i'll add beer traps.
thanks man, keep those fingers crossed till i next get to visit the spots. i really hope they are ok. i forgot to add chalk, will sprinkle some next time. been crushing the ticks between my finger nails or my mates mini pliers. taking tweezers along next time. seems like there are more ticks then last year it seems. the river is quite far away from this area.
yeah the good old beer traps, there is even some nice diy roofed snail traps to keep your bait dry. thanks for the tips, will keep in mind.
Heya GM,
Kind of a late comer, but glad I did my homework! Best wishes on this years grow. It's always difficult leaving the girls on their OD, I feel your pain
But those ticks man, not fun... Watch out for Lime disease too.
Like Charlie said, I would spread them pellets a bit more, so that there's no blue crop circle on the floor
Happy growing!
B
better late then never Bowser,
welcome to my little grow adventure. will spread the snail pellets more as you guys are saying.
the ticks are a great off putter indeed. i will take them even more seriously on future visits. maybe put on a pair of trainers under my jeans and tape up the joint between socks and trainer with duct tape. then you have to seal up your upper body too. finishing up with a complete top to bottom spray of tick repellant.
Amazing brother it don't get no better then outdoor as far as adventure goes! I hear ya on the ticks there's a shitload of the fuckers around this joint
word! at least the ticks will also put rippers off from trailing through the bush looking for plants. i still can't figure out how the forest workers do it when they work in those bushy areas planting trees and stuff?
thanks dimodz mate, lets hope we have a nice season. would be really cool if my afghan diesel (SDxCJ-p6) does well outdoors. time will tell.
ty man, i also think the spots are good. what do you mean by water soluble around the edge? those blue pellets are biological snail pellets. i probably should have added some water crystals if that's what you mean, also forgot to add chalk duh. we will see with time what else i managed to mess up, lol.
the ticks are my minions of defense lol. just wish they knew their boss enough not to attack him, lol.
will give you a special wave, thumbs up, victory signal or other such next time round
nice to have you along man, the more the merrier. i hope to share a nice season with everyone.
good growings everybody
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bonecarver_OG
from a short research session it seems a lot of ppl do nothing, but the rest seems to use protective clothing and reppellants. i found one study from switzerland showing the reppelents are 40% effective. http://www.wemjournal.org/article/S1080-6032(02)70581-4/abstract
also it seems to be effective to soak your protective clothes in permethin http://uncnews.unc.edu/content/view/4418/107/
ticks suck. maybe later in the season there will be less ? here usually the amount goes down later in summer.
peace man!
Savage Seeds
Active member
word! at least the ticks will also put rippers off from trailing through the bush looking for plants. i still can't figure out how the forest workers do it when they work in those bushy areas planting trees and stuff?
There Is some tic repellent stuff you can get but I have yet to ind it -_-
There Is some tic repellent stuff you can get but I have yet to ind it -_-
Hallo Gaiusmarius, my friend
I'm late too for your thread, but I appreciate a lot your efforts!
Outdoor can give best organic buds in the world!
I like your style, and shared your sweat in digging holes....
Try to wear some german army parachute suit to deal with the nasty flies and stinging plants. I got one some years ago and it is still working.
It's not easy to wear it in full sun but it helps a lot.
Don't forget some gatorade style liquids to replace fluids and minerals during heavy sweating...
Finding a good spade is not easy. I like one which is made in carbon, short but durable stem and metallic blade. Short and compact and very light to carry. Avoid the foldable ones. And have a spare small metal spade just in case. (the one it can fit a jacket pocket).
This has been since now a very rainy season, the best for snails, those fuckers...
Show no mercy, man, one snail can destroy a small plant, go abundant with some non solubile ironchelates baits spread around as minesfields (I like this charlie_mops :More like a minefield
).
I mean around for circle area 30 -40 cm of width but spreaded maybe also below surrounding plants, where snail hide during the day. Repeat in one month.
This thing is not eaten by plants and stands even in the rains for a while, being appetazing for snail for a long time. Just remove corpses... Beer traps are good and organic, but they need you there every day almost, so not so practical. Some dolomite lime is useful too, but needs to be spreaded as lines in a soccer field, so not so descreet...
I suggest also some kind of mulch in, expecially in the early stages. Some sourroundin plants extirpated can be an emergency deal, but not where snails are a serious problem, try maybe some pine bark, not too heavy to carry if it's dry.
Have you amended with some mycorrizas and some humic?
I like to enhance the soil vitality with some myco and leonardite when I mix soil, but you're still in time to top mulch with those.
Outdoor is where I saw those amendants to work best.
You won't regret, seriously!
I like the picture with your shadow in it, really looks like you for those who had the pleasure to meet and smoked with you!
Remember to have some spare clones to replace the eventually eaten plants.
Best luck and karma for your guerrilla,
Hope to meet you soon,
Dr.P
I'm late too for your thread, but I appreciate a lot your efforts!
Outdoor can give best organic buds in the world!
I like your style, and shared your sweat in digging holes....
Try to wear some german army parachute suit to deal with the nasty flies and stinging plants. I got one some years ago and it is still working.
It's not easy to wear it in full sun but it helps a lot.
Don't forget some gatorade style liquids to replace fluids and minerals during heavy sweating...
Finding a good spade is not easy. I like one which is made in carbon, short but durable stem and metallic blade. Short and compact and very light to carry. Avoid the foldable ones. And have a spare small metal spade just in case. (the one it can fit a jacket pocket).
This has been since now a very rainy season, the best for snails, those fuckers...
Show no mercy, man, one snail can destroy a small plant, go abundant with some non solubile ironchelates baits spread around as minesfields (I like this charlie_mops :More like a minefield
I mean around for circle area 30 -40 cm of width but spreaded maybe also below surrounding plants, where snail hide during the day. Repeat in one month.
This thing is not eaten by plants and stands even in the rains for a while, being appetazing for snail for a long time. Just remove corpses... Beer traps are good and organic, but they need you there every day almost, so not so practical. Some dolomite lime is useful too, but needs to be spreaded as lines in a soccer field, so not so descreet...
I suggest also some kind of mulch in, expecially in the early stages. Some sourroundin plants extirpated can be an emergency deal, but not where snails are a serious problem, try maybe some pine bark, not too heavy to carry if it's dry.
Have you amended with some mycorrizas and some humic?
I like to enhance the soil vitality with some myco and leonardite when I mix soil, but you're still in time to top mulch with those.
Outdoor is where I saw those amendants to work best.
You won't regret, seriously!
I like the picture with your shadow in it, really looks like you for those who had the pleasure to meet and smoked with you!
Remember to have some spare clones to replace the eventually eaten plants.
Best luck and karma for your guerrilla,
Hope to meet you soon,
Dr.P
thanks for that man. the repellant i have been using is issued by the swiss army. they have 2 products one of them also includes ticks. this stuff has been working well last year, but this year it's not doing so well. maybe i didn't spray enough? but yeah it seems like clothes and spray is all you can do. planning to visit the plants again the day after tomorrow, can't wait to see how they are doing.
the product which is given to the Swiss army is called Anti Brumm forte, the O in forte is a picture of a tick. i had some great success last year using this stuff, but i was also dressing better against them i think.
ALOHA!! I have been following you and your posts in the coco forum from day one. I wish you success in your outdoor endeavors
nice to have you along, this is all still a learning curve for me so always glad to have more peeps looking out.
Hallo Gaiusmarius, my friend
I'm late too for your thread, but I appreciate a lot your efforts!
Outdoor can give best organic buds in the world!
I like your style, and shared your sweat in digging holes....
Try to wear some german army parachute suit to deal with the nasty flies and stinging plants. I got one some years ago and it is still working.
It's not easy to wear it in full sun but it helps a lot.
Don't forget some gatorade style liquids to replace fluids and minerals during heavy sweating...
Finding a good spade is not easy. I like one which is made in carbon, short but durable stem and metallic blade. Short and compact and very light to carry. Avoid the foldable ones. And have a spare small metal spade just in case. (the one it can fit a jacket pocket).
This has been since now a very rainy season, the best for snails, those fuckers...
Show no mercy, man, one snail can destroy a small plant, go abundant with some non solubile ironchelates baits spread around as minesfields (I like this charlie_mops :More like a minefield).
I mean around for circle area 30 -40 cm of width but spreaded maybe also below surrounding plants, where snail hide during the day. Repeat in one month.
This thing is not eaten by plants and stands even in the rains for a while, being appetazing for snail for a long time. Just remove corpses... Beer traps are good and organic, but they need you there every day almost, so not so practical. Some dolomite lime is useful too, but needs to be spreaded as lines in a soccer field, so not so descreet...
I suggest also some kind of mulch in, expecially in the early stages. Some sourroundin plants extirpated can be an emergency deal, but not where snails are a serious problem, try maybe some pine bark, not too heavy to carry if it's dry.
Have you amended with some mycorrizas and some humic?
I like to enhance the soil vitality with some myco and leonardite when I mix soil, but you're still in time to top mulch with those.
Outdoor is where I saw those amendants to work best.
You won't regret, seriously!
I like the picture with your shadow in it, really looks like you for those who had the pleasure to meet and smoked with you!
Remember to have some spare clones to replace the eventually eaten plants.
Best luck and karma for your guerrilla,
Hope to meet you soon,
Dr.P
Hey Dr. penthotal, so great that you decided to check out my outdoor fun. sounds like you really have a good handle on outdoor growing. LOL a parachute suit eh? if i run around the woods in a German army parachutist suit i might well get shot by some trigger happy old timer, or at least reported to police as a suspicious person.
think i have something with mycorrizas, will look into mycos, no idea where i'd get that locally. i do have a few more powdered amendments which i will add on my next visit, including a bit of chalk to help the ph not sink too low over time. the whole guerrilla growing thing is so different to what i'm used to. you need to preplan things for the whole season ideally, while inside i can just adjust things as needed. anyway many thanks for adding your valuable insights.
i found a really good folding shovel in the end. it's a Swiss army issue folding spade and it has dug a lot of holes in really hard ground. while the first one i got was a real piece of crap it broke down on the first day i used it, lol. but we also have a normal size spade now which is a lot easier to dig with, even if it is a bit conspicuous walking around with. if you remove the handle you can put the spade in your back pack and carry the handle like a walking stick.
will drop a few seeds in any spots with dead plants. i don't really have any spare ones ready right now, so it will have to be seeds, either that or i transplant one of my getting too big mums outside?
