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All alone huh? I hear there's some fires in AZ. :)

Tread lightly all you want, but nothing beats a good blueberry!

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All alone huh? I hear there's some fires in AZ. :)

Tread lightly all you want, but nothing beats a good blueberry!

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YUM....look at that. I have found the best BB imo...for my taste...and it was in Highend...bar none...an actual Blueberry flavored expression. But you know this already:)
 
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Sour Diesel Clone & Ma Kettle (batch mates)

Sour Diesel Clone & Ma Kettle (batch mates)

Ma Kettle = Casey Jones X Grape Krush

Day 40...



The Sour D is partially pollinated...pretty nice plant thus far...not as far along as the Ma...kind of stinky but all my plants are stinky...so she doesn't stand out so much..



This Ma Kettle is short (just under 30"), very sweet smelling...stronger aroma than the D clone....fast...fast...fast...and bulking with plump squishy flowers....sticky...I've grown out probably 10-12 Ma Kettles and this is the only expression like this that I've found....so kind of fascinating in my small garden



***I do field test flights on my mess...mostly in the indoor garden. I'll break out a jar...roll a couple joints...head in. I smoke...and stretch while I garden...practice breathing discipline...set my focus on the plants and garden.

This is where I feel I can use Cannabis to aid in inducing a peaceful sort of trance/meditation. More so than during runs....I trance out on endorphins as I've expressed before...while running.

Gardening while under the influence of the exact family of plants you may be working with...is rewarding....enlightening at Xs.....all about getting the grok on plant speed...plant understanding....knowing that I need them more...than they need me. My existence is based on a need for plants and water

Reasons to use DJ Short plants in your breeding program 101:

1. Ornamental value....beautiful expressions...mutant or non get passed like a fatty

2. Thai influences...with Old Skool Mex = nice

3. Maturity of DJ Short as a breeder...top shelf dedication

4. Though it can be argued....a solid IBL is a good anchor point....even if I don't really believe in IBLs

5. I've had great expressions from the Blue lines....just don't agree with all the searching that must be done....for the money...he should deliver you easier hunting grounds. It is no great mystery to work with deformed plants with so much weakness.

The glory....however....is circulating in the expressions of Short's pools....and that is why I gambled my time, space, and money to carve that pool. I understand bout the gems...as I have seen them myself. I still am seeing them....priceless...

EDIT: 6. How could I forget? Floral, Berry, Vanilla, Hash, Perfume resin profiles. By gawd don't forget that...good stuff
 
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yeah i in no way meant to diss dj's work,blueberry is still one of my all time favorites,and those gems that can be found are truly gems...
 
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Word. There are very elegant plants in the pool. They are still elegant but more aggressive in outcrosses.

It's like adding nitrous to air mix.....or CO2 to air mix....outcrosses add power...and in my thinking...in no way destroys head/flavor/effects. If you believe in the percentages in breeding (and you should be able to see pattern....mathematical equations even to a math idiot like myself)....then you believe that all that is in a mix...can be found again...replicas via percentages.

Percentages amplified by IBL foundations, belief that a good breeding female will show herself easily in outcrosses, and blind faith in your abilities to read plant expression...being able to kill in a blink...recognizing what you are seeing

Outcrosses can remove undesired features by lessoning the percentages due to added sap lines. It can be done down the line as well right?...but not so easy in the Blue lines...which are what?...F5s F6s???? Those are kind of fucked for quick fix...without outcrossing. Period....unless you are a glutton for punishment and have no desire to see new expression. Then fine....by all means...I say

Fine tune them to my liking and opening up holes to other expressions....that's it....all I'm doing. I'm doing it with everything I touch...building a custom ride that hauls ass...knocks you deep in la la land....and looks, smells, and taste obscene
 
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Conglomerate and Fuk It seedlings....update

Conglomerate and Fuk It seedlings....update

So...Conglomerate is Ace's Congo X Grape Krush...those same males yet again. And again there are no mutants amongst them. I am actually looking for BB dominant expressions. I am leery of the Congo...I've seen it play dominant to Cindy Jones...and I do not trust it. I like it...but don't trust it.

The Fuk Its (Flo X Hashberry)...a few are unblemished...but mutant/crinkles are dominating the majority of the population. If you followed the Flo Highland grow...you may remember the same sort of mutant dominance in those. It's Flo....and it's coming from the female side.

Not one mutant in all those crosses using the Grape Krush males...but pop a cross from my Flo mom....hello little mangles.

The thing is....the Flo mutants are mostly the kind I can use. And that...pilgrims...is the beauty of my Flo mom...she is a dominant bitch promising lots of resin. High value.

Group photo...this is where they live...togetherness...batched up



...perhaps I'll blend here..perhaps not...it will mostly depend on finding a BB in Conglomerate....that is key
 
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silverhazefiend

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I have been out of the loop for a bit but im gonna do my reading and catch up ..Ive never grown a blue line or dj work ...but a outstanding blueberry u cant go wrong ..the djs works are highly regarded all over ..and still some of the original crosses are very rare
 
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Keep on Keeping on

Keep on Keeping on

Odessa= Casey Jones X Cindy Jones

Cindy Jones= Casey Jones X C99BX

Cleveland Sage= Prune Juice X Hummingbird

Hummingbird= Kali Mist x ChemDKush X Grape Krush

Prune Juice= Querkle X Grape Krush

The 1st of the Odessa (IX1) are starting to turn on in flower. Very aggressive plants. I'm having to bend them...crush them...tie them etc..These are examples of the types of structures I prefer. They are open spaced between branch sets...fast...mean...and will make me look good. I'd love to see these in a well lit set up like CHACO's. These will be kill shots.



Here is the other 1/2 of the Hell Hound project....CBF's SFV x Ghost X Ghost.....all that OG Kush.....to be mixed with the Odessa. She was the "scout" put in 1st to flower....and is starting to turn on. I have many more of these in or going in. One will be flowered OD in a 3gal square of coco and fed the exact same as her indoor sisters. For kicks. Looking good.



The Cleveland Sage are about 1/2 and 1/2 dominated by Blue line expression....here is an example of one of the BB leaners....if you have grown Blueberry (Grape Krush, Blue Moonshine etc...) you should be able to see what I'm talking about.

Very Blue....



See how the other 1/2 live...not dominated by the Blues



NOTE: For the Hell Hound Project I blended the pollen from the Kush male and the Odessa male. I don't see a problem with doing that. Makes it very easy for me....and it will blend successfully in the all the donor females from both the Odessa and Kush sides. These were meant for each other....and I think as this project progresses...you too... will see what I mean. I wager my collection on it.

All the exactness and madness in the exactness is not my style. Save all that for the professionals. I don't give a shit anymore...if I need exactness...say for a detailed inline of Odessa...well...I'll drop more Odessa beans and do it. I have Odessa still in F1 and in F2 (like you are seeing here).....and I've made sure to share the wealth...somewhere there is more Odessa out there...and for sure...within my collection.

I'm so much happier running free....full tilt...no responsibility except to myself. Fuck exactness man...fuck it straight in the ass. I'm a mercenary for my own cause

Getting lost in the slip stream and pulling out trophies is where I'm at....between the A and the T in grammar....I am going to deliberately get myself lost. From this point on you can not trust my details....sap lines...or my version of the truth about them.

****While I'm on my soap box....here is some advice: Get away from the 1st generations of your crosses as fast as you can.
 
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Runt Kush plant and favorable mutants

Runt Kush plant and favorable mutants

I took the runt of the litter...very much a runt...out of the SFV x Ghost X Ghost (Kush for short) cross and transplanted her into a 3gal square of coco. She's been vegging OD for the last few days....topped and caged up. Normally I shit can runts (what a funny word...runt) but in this case I'll use her runt(ness) to my advantage.



Here she will stay until harvest....I won't transplant again...and like I said...she will be fed the normal regiment of nutrients in the exact same fashion as all her indoor sisters. Semi organic then....sun but man fashioned salts. Her square catches on the rim of the bucket...and elevates her up a couple inches so I can bottom feed her. I like bottom feeding for some situations.

Spectrums will trump feed is my theory....already proven to myself...but I'll recheck just because I can. Redundancy is my curse unfortunately.

*The plants seen in the background are unsexed Manzana Bramble and Revolver. The Bramble's entire existence depends on these plants....the Revolver is in no jeopardy as far as existence is concerned. Both crosses are fathered by the same I-HOP Grape Krush. Should be good stuff.

Mutants...here in the Cindy Moon Jones. Penance perhaps...to Short...but then again...I don't care to think about my reasons for using plants like this in my progression. I like them...they have style...and style is very important to me....in everything I do in life.



Fuk It....lots of mutants in here as I've already shown previously above...but these three have potential. The 2 (most) scraggily looking ones will be slower but should turn out to be beautiful swans if female. I know this Flo influenced shit like the back of my hand. Very predictable.

Does not matter what I match her with....kind of what I'm going to prove to you in this cross. Forget the pops...he is of no real consequence....in any cross I've made with Flo. He is along for the ride...dominated by a professional mistress.

 
Hehe,funny how a kind lady like Flo can be such a dominatrix in crosses. But then, experience has taught me that the softspoken,''good'' girls are the ones to look out for.Wonder if my Flo likes to be on top as well...
Is this general thing with DJ stuff in your experience?
 

unclefishstick

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i ended up with a weirdly twisted little witches weed seedling i dubbed "ducky"...hope its a girl,grew out of its awkward phase into a nice little bush...ah the weird ones always get yah!
 
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Hehe,funny how a kind lady like Flo can be such a dominatrix in crosses. But then, experience has taught me that the softspoken,''good'' girls are the ones to look out for.Wonder if my Flo likes to be on top as well...
Is this general thing with DJ stuff in your experience?

I notice it more when using Short plants coming from the female side in an outcross. I mostly prefer using Short plants from the male side...seems to cut down on dominance. Can't really prove that...just observations in my populations. I have observed it enough that I pretty much count on it.

What has me intrigued the most: the lack of mutants in all the Grape Krush fathered outcrosses. Not one....even though the trait must be in there. One of the males I used was...in fact...a mutant. What does this tell me?

I also saw the same thing when using a male TFlux (Flo X ChemDD) mutant in crosses. I did not see any mutants in the offspring....even though there were mostly mutants in the TFlux cross.

I consider this and think: the mutant trait is passed from the female side of things and less so from the male side. Why?

Granted....I have not run hundreds of mutant infused crosses nor seen 1000s of plants in one sitting...but I see what I see....and use it to my advantage. I keep seeing the same things over and over using multiple females and males in multiple crosses...some mutant some not....but it shows up most surely from the female side in my population. There must be a reason...it is not random.
 
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i ended up with a weirdly twisted little witches weed seedling i dubbed "ducky"...hope its a girl,grew out of its awkward phase into a nice little bush...ah the weird ones always get yah!

Man some of them are so good. I've studied a little bit on the subject of abnormalities in a plant population.....I look for abnormalities to break down the wall into other expressions.

I will venture out and say: Abnormalities are important to changing up a population and finding new pools of expression. I believe whole heartedly....that is what keeps DJ Short using them in his program. I believe they are very key.....in all plant populations... be it veggies or herbs....trees or grasses....they are necessary for progression of a species.

I use them for this reason. I like the freaks....I like the style....I like the ornamental values....but it is very hit or miss and can be a total waste of time.
 
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I'm not that bright dude. It takes me forever to figure out mathematics and percentages....but I can somewhat follow graphs and diagrams. I would never be able to diagram all that I've seen.

I have several books on breeding....I can follow the very basics. I get lost in translations though.

Geezus....that's a lot to take in. I flunked Algebra in the 9th grade....besides doing it again in college (where I still didn't get it)...that's the extent of my math and logic. My brain doesn't work that way. Put #s and letters together and I can't grok.
 
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It seems like following your nose and insticts is a great way to pick, I have a hard time with the academic side of plant breeding, smoking too much I can't exactly grasp it but my intuitive side is good.Perhaps over a gen or two those crinkly crunchies will iron out....I'm not sure which of my own stock to continue into the next gen with, I need to be sure I like what happened on the first run..I started 25 larry crosees but it takes a long time to see the results but patience is so important to me, you certainly need to see down the line and then when something cool happens it's cathartic. When I was younger and just starting out, the ultimate goal was to have your own lines and seedstock you worked with over time, now with everyone's activities around here I'm back on that boat, even though I never really jumped off but the cutting thing is alluring.:)
 

unclefishstick

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I'm not that bright dude. It takes me forever to figure out mathematics and percentages....but I can somewhat follow graphs and diagrams. I would never be able to diagram all that I've seen.

I have several books on breeding....I can follow the very basics. I get lost in translations though.

Geezus....that's a lot to take in. I flunked Algebra in the 9th grade....besides doing it again in college (where I still didn't get it)...that's the extent of my math and logic. My brain doesn't work that way. Put #s and letters together and I can't grok.
shoot,i used to do calculus and now i can barely add! yeah,i understand all this stuff at an intuitive level,but i could never explain it to someone else...ever try to explain how the laws of thermodynamics apply to grow room design to someone? :laughing:

It seems like following your nose and insticts is a great way to pick, I have a hard time with the academic side of plant breeding, smoking too much I can't exactly grasp it but my intuitive side is good.Perhaps over a gen or two those crinkly crunchies will iron out....I'm not sure which of my own stock to continue into the next gen with, I need to be sure I like what happened on the first run..I started 25 larry crosees but it takes a long time to see the results but patience is so important to me, you certainly need to see down the line and then when something cool happens it's cathartic. When I was younger and just starting out, the ultimate goal was to have your own lines and seedstock you worked with over time, now with everyone's activities around here I'm back on that boat, even though I never really jumped off but the cutting thing is alluring.:)
thats a big reason why i like Dutchgrowns work so much,she not only has a good "eye",but a solid background in botany so she does know how to track expressions via tools like punnet squares and the like...
 
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The fact that she's chosen to keep the DTC99 line going is, for me, a sign of great taste.My DTC99's are in the 4th generation, I had a great run of 5 or 6 last summer and used the pollen from the thai style plants for the next gen.I've been in love with that stuff for about 6yrs. Durbans seem to be so rare these days, I almost would be willing to travel to SA to find some of that real Durban, some of the DTC99's as you probably well know have beautifull Durban and Thai individuals.My first run from seed was so beautifull, one of my first internet purchases.Back in the 80's lots of the outdoor pot here in Mass was Durban related, our outdoor climate can be pretty tough on a bud...
 

unclefishstick

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The fact that she's chosen to keep the DTC99 line going is, for me, a sign of great taste.My DTC99's are in the 4th generation, I had a great run of 5 or 6 last summer and used the pollen from the thai style plants for the next gen.I've been in love with that stuff for about 6yrs. Durbans seem to be so rare these days, I almost would be willing to travel to SA to find some of that real Durban, some of the DTC99's as you probably well know have beautifull Durban and Thai individuals.My first run from seed was so beautifull, one of my first internet purchases.Back in the 80's lots of the outdoor pot here in Mass was Durban related, our outdoor climate can be pretty tough on a bud...
as far as my experience allows me to judge DG's preservation work is rock solid..i absolutely adore the cut of dtc99 i got,i dont care much for durban myself,one of the few strains i have had a bad reaction to...was utterly paralyzed for about 3 hours in amsterdam on durban poison....the heavily thai dtc99 i have is such awesome trippy up happy weed,awesome flavor,good yields and only 70 days,smells so good too....
 
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