med-mans medical film technique

[the med man]

dude thats so rad. trust me, it is a medical and financial elite system for sure.

i would just put 1 plant in this set up and put 1 light on each side. when u veg just run 1 light at a time. i would ditch the kool bloom and just use big bud as directed. plants really love higher ppm in the system but ive never use ionic so thats something i cant comment on. once the plant is ready to bloom turn on both lights. i would switch the mh and hps weekly so each side of the respected plant gets even spectrum through out the grow. if you can preveg a plant in 3 inch rockwool to 1 foot under any hid, it will only need 2-3 weeks in the mft veg time if that. use superthrive and drop days off the veg time too.

1 plant can easily fill that whole space with side lighting and a vscrog with a farm fence or some diy method.

we always let the res be a supporter for the lowest level,

mm

 

[highonmt]

dude thats so rad. trust me, it is a medical and financial elite system for sure.

i would just put 1 plant in this set up and put 1 light on each side. when u veg just run 1 light at a time. i would ditch the kool bloom and just use big bud as directed. plants really love higher ppm in the system but ive never use ionic so thats something i cant comment on. once the plant is ready to bloom turn on both lights. i would switch the mh and hps weekly so each side of the respected plant gets even spectrum through out the grow. if you can preveg a plant in 3 inch rockwool to 1 foot under any hid, it will only need 2-3 weeks in the mft veg time if that. use superthrive and drop days off the veg time too.

1 plant can easily fill that whole space with side lighting and a vscrog with a farm fence or some diy method.

we always let the res be a supporter for the lowest level,

mm

We need to run 2 strains eventually for my buddy, But I'll give it a run with just one. just happen to have another sheet of chloroplast sitting in the project closet. Thanks for the advice I'm popping beans right now Do you think vscrog is best? Can't ge 3" cubes in BFE so 4" cubes. I'll root in small cubes, preveg in drip bucket then into the table. Can't wait to try it out.
HM

 

[the med man]

can you get mini cubes, like in a bag? the grodan ones are like 15mm x 15mm. i would just put your rw cube into a basket of mini cube filler. ive had over feed issues with larger blocks. im sure 4 inch will suffice if need be,

mm

 

[highonmt]

can you get mini cubes, like in a bag? the grodan ones are like 15mm x 15mm. i would just put your rw cube into a basket of mini cube filler. ive had over feed issues with larger blocks. im sure 4 inch will suffice if need be,

mm

Yep I can get those they are cheap. I have the 4" cubes and net pots that they fit in so thats whats I'm using. I have no money to invest right now so I'm just digging through the closet. I have flora nova and ionic and a full jug of kool bloom. and I'm kind of tired of the nova's gooy film. so ionic and kool bloom is on the menu if it's good enough for heath it should work ok, Would this table as I have it work well as a flat scrog? or does this system require more root space?
thanks for the help
HM

 

[the med man]

it will work either way you choose. dmts mfts will be a scrog, and mine are a vscrog, the only thing about kool bloom is the amount of phosphorus, not the best ratios for canna. ive seen amazing results with lucas formula in the mft's so whatever works for you

mm

 

[highonmt]

it will work either way you choose. dmts mfts will be a scrog, and mine are a vscrog, the only thing about kool bloom is the amount of phosphorus, not the best ratios for canna. ive seen amazing results with lucas formula in the mft's so whatever works for you

mm

Thanks for the help man you're a generous person. I just popped 4 reservation labs beans, 4 sam the skunk man haze x skunk #1 crosses and 2 chronic f2's so I will hopefully find at least 6 girls. Just really want to make this easy for my bud and try out a few new meds while I'm at it. So I'll just try it like it is this run and run hoods. Next run It'll be one of my favorites and vert bulbs/vscrog. I'm ditching the KB too.

HM

 

[the med man]

so, to add insult to injury again lol. turns out my co2 burner had a major leak in the line, and has been gassing off pure propane into my space........im not to impressed with myself atm......

i thought my monitor was off, so i added a different dialed one with no change. i really cant believe the plants have even got this big. so i fixed everything, and in like 3 days the buds doubled in size already. ive really been scratching my head since i added co2 as to growth rates and production. as burnt propane can smell very similar to fresh propane in this case. i cant wait to have this one over with and build my master plan as ive finally received my license in the mail and dont have to borrow 10 plants from an existing script here.

the headbands and conkushions came back major, but the hazes are suffering majorly now, real bummer,

mm

 

[highonmt]

Man what a struggle with this run sorry to hear it..still the grow looks better than many I've seen and I love the mft growth rates. My seedlings are in 4" rw now and starting on the second node. How often do you feed in preveg? I've never used anything but the starter cubes and I'm kind of flat footed on using larger rockwool cubes. Also I was reading through your blog and you recommend moms from seed do you find there is a big difference between moms that are clones and those straight from seed? I've not noticed a difference myself but I've found there is always more to learn from other peoples experiences . So my choices are to turn these plants into moms/ clone and wait 3 weeks+ extra to put plants into the system or pop these in the system after they declare sex and then clone to make moms. Time wise the latter is more appealing to me right now. Thanks man.
HM

 

[the med man]

hey bud,

with rw cubes i pack em in a perforated tray, then in a prop tray, when ever they need feeding, i grab another prop tray, fill it half with solution, then drop the perforated tray in it and bottom feed, to force roots down and avoid over doing it.

the difference between f-1 hybrid vigour beans and reg ibl or landrace beans in terms of growth, potency etc, is just as comparable to a ibl or landrace to elite clones that are who knows how old and what c generation they are. this is 95% of the time, alwyas with room for exceptions.

so by having f-1 moms from seed gives you faster rooting times, higher survival rates, faster growth, bigeer more potent buds and more heavier crops a year,

mm

tray

Man what a struggle with this run sorry to hear it..still the grow looks better than many I've seen and I love the mft growth rates. My seedlings are in 4" rw now and starting on the second node. How often do you feed in preveg? I've never used anything but the starter cubes and I'm kind of flat footed on using larger rockwool cubes. Also I was reading through your blog and you recommend moms from seed do you find there is a big difference between moms that are clones and those straight from seed? I've not noticed a difference myself but I've found there is always more to learn from other peoples experiences . So my choices are to turn these plants into moms/ clone and wait 3 weeks+ extra to put plants into the system or pop these in the system after they declare sex and then clone to make moms. Time wise the latter is more appealing to me right now. Thanks man.
HM

 

[highonmt]

10-4. Bottom feeding sounds easy, so when roots appear on the bottom of the block just pop em in the system on low flow eh. What ec do you pre veg them at and what's in your mix? HM

 

[the med man]

cool, i preveg with 1000ppm, and seriously veg with 1250. kushes love the calmag, especially in veg. i use andvanced 3 part or 2 part plus b52 and hyox plus a little superthrive and willard water, low flow to start and ive even popped em in a couple times without roots popping, justr growing daily,

mm

 

[ManitobaMedical]

nice system Med man looks awesome as specially like the reflectors on the walls man must b bright in that bitch!
shity deal with the gas man, heres a quick easy tip 4 ya , when ever hooking up anything gas use a soap test cover all hoses pipes fitting etc , in a dishsoap solution
_no bubbles no troubles .
old plumbers saying
Manitoba

 

[highonmt]

med man,

Well I put the six best sprouts into the tables this morning I have 2 backups that will become mom/dads if they aren't needed. For the last couple days in the tray I did 3 bottom floods daily to condition them a bit. The leaves look a bit funky from the transition, but in the first 24hrs on the table the roots grew 1+ inch on 4 of the plants the other 2 about 3/4". EC is currently 1.2 but I'll up em to 1.8ec tonight. Ph took a swing as the high ph rockwool leached but now it's steady at 5.8. New bulbs will arrive tomorrow and the room will go from 400w to 2kw and ventilation will go way up as thats how am controlling heat untill the summer heat arrives and then I'll fire up the 10k btu ac. No CO2 this run just lots of fresh air. Temps are at 77-80f rh is 55%.

 

[shuswap]

mm can u share with us what temps and rh you aim for,all is looking good here all cut up and awaiting screen tonight yeah baby!

 

[highonmt]

mm can u share with us what temps and rh you aim for,all is looking good here all cut up and awaiting screen tonight yeah baby!

I was wondering the same thing. Also I had my mag 7 pump die on me and am running a submersible pump right now. I took my water temp this morning and it is 84f! In my other systems I would be freaking but this seems to run fine...white roots are now about 1 1/2" and are just exploding from the cubes. I turned up the flow a bit yesterday and every plant seemed to not mind a bit...is this too high a water temp? room temp is set at 80f 55% rh and steady. My mag drive pump arrives the 11th so that sould allow the temps to drop a bit. thanks
HM

 

[the med man]

temps start anywhere from 75 and end at 86 with peak co2, and rh starts at 75-80 and finishes around 40,

mm

 

[highonmt]

temps start anywhere from 75 and end at 86 with peak co2, and rh starts at 75-80 and finishes around 40,

mm

Thanks bud,
Hows about the water temps...?
HM

 

[highonmt]

ya, you got it, the flow to each table is contolled by the flow valve, and the bigger they get the more the flow. the pump runs 24/7. im not a benny guy. h202 is 1/16 to 1/24 the price of bennies and does way more around the grow room, root zone, foliar then high priced additives. these roots are 7 days apart, and almost quadrupled in mass by adding hyox every 2-3 days at 1.6 ml/L, they all recieve relatively the same flow, the pump is spaced evenly enough and is powerful enough, d

Well I don't know wtf is up with the peroxide I just bought but I added 100ml to my 15gals of solution; 29% peroxide;I think hyox is 34% or something eh? it fried the shit out of my plants; litterally watched em fall over!! WTF ...I did an immediate dilution and then drained and refilled and they are still alive and most have stood back up but tips are curled and black. I don't get it was it 1.6ml per gallon?? that seems like too little but the bottle I bought says 3ml per gallon so ??...regardless I just fucked up my plants good and the roots had just hit the table and are looking so good..live and learn...Shit hope they pull out of it and survive...Im drinking a few beers tonight...HM

 

[bigbag]

funny...i know quite a few hydro "masters", who have never used H202, ever during the growth/bloom cycle...? isnt 02 good enough ? hell, run an ozone genny & u got all the bases covered

 

[highonmt]

funny...i know quite a few hydro "masters", who have never used H202, ever during the growth/bloom cycle...? isnt 02 good enough ? hell, run an ozone genny & u got all the bases covered

No it ain't the peroxides fault, it's the peroxide users fault. I broke my own rule of always adding everything to the res in several doses instead of all at once...like I did. The plants are all still growing and the roots look great I just shocked the bejeesus out of them. The point of h2o2 is a sterile res and the plants seem to like the stuff (in moderation of course) I'm just starting out with this method and as with every new grow method /style sometimes ya gotta take a few on the chin to get er dialed in. I am just really hoping to get a few clones and make moms this run...but a few lbs of bud will be a nice bonus.
HM