Committing suicide...

[longearedfriend]

this is a very touchy and controversial subject...

@ Longearedfriend.

the ruined side comes from after 5 yrs neither mine nor my wifes brothers marriage were reparable,and both had been solid but like myself,my sister inlaw got out as well taking the children witth her ,and her parting sot was it just got to hard day in day out,and i had to agree it got boring in the end watching a whole family,s inabillaty to move on with no help.

Bob

thank for answering

so earlier I asked you, why you said that your life (as well as 5 other) were ruined

so you say that since your's and your wife's marriage and your wife's brother's marriage ended and they couldn't be salvaged.. then your life is ruined ?

I know you talked about the lack of service, and all the medication administered too..

once something is ruined, then you can't repair it. and you said that your lives are ruined

is there no possibility for you to salvage your life ?

anyways, I don't feel comfortable asking these kinds of questions to be honest

 

[greenmatter]

ladies and gents .... there will be no solid answers here. it does help to know other people are there .....IC rocks .... IMHO.

 

[Strainhunter]

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anyways, I don't feel comfortable asking these kinds of questions to be honest

If that is so then why don't you quit trying to get an answer.

 

[mithra]

I'm guessing a significant number of young people who commit suicide are gay and unable to deal with the stigma attached.

lw

The first time I attempted was when I was thirteen, because I couldnt face my own sexuality. Lucky for me they found me with a still beating heart, and I was revived. I tryed again six months later.
Shit I'm just glad to still be here. Now I dont give a fuck, I'm here and I'm gueer, deal with it LOL
But I know a lot of young gay boys take their own lives because of self hate. I volunteer at a crisis center. Its a daily occurrence, people love your kids and accept them as they are, because you dont know what dark thoughts are in their heads, until its too late.

 

[greenmatter]

I'm guessing a significant number of young people who commit suicide are gay and unable to deal with the stigma attached.

lw

i actually read through whole thread again because i did not remember this post being here.

i have debated on this site about the pros and cons of cat piss and diesel fumes in a breeding program ........ nuff said

but that post is plain and simple FUCKING STUPID

there is no math in this and what you are "spewing" is raw unfiltered bullshit.

suicide is a human thing ....... get your mind around it

 

[HempKat]

You know one point I haven't really seen made is that sometimes, the result of hurting their family and messing up their lives is exactly the intended goal of teen suicide. Often times when a teen kills himself/herself it's because they feel nobody really understands or cares including their family. Of course the family often doesn't recognize where or how they let the suicidal teen down. Their perspective usually is that their behavior was perfectly fine and they have no clue as to how it could have happened. Even though the fact they didn't pick up on the clues and address/fix the issue before it led to suicide is in and of itself a clue as to what was wrong.

 

[ganjasuiteseat]

this thread threw me the fuck off i was like wtf happen.worst thing ever.lol got a kick when i read wut is was about.glad 2 see ur stayin up SH.peace and a peaceful h

 

[medicalgreen]

Everyone has a right to kill themselves. Their entire existence on this plane might be to have one single experience. And if you deny that to them, you are interfering in their choice to experience something that will add to their souls journey. The body is not sacred, not like the spirit and it's journey is sacred. The body is only an article of clothing, one day to be shed. How you die may be as important, or even more important, than how you live.

One never knows. If reality is more real than the dream, or the dream is more real than reality. Many believe the spirit is more important, and if it truly is, than death can be celebrated as much as life.


It's a choice only that person can make.

I would like to experience dying in many ways, not just one. Like perhaps, being eaten by a shark at sea. Falling off a tall building. Being poisoned and slow death. Being hanged. (Probably already done that in the 1800's), being raped to death, being eaten alive, being shredded by a papermill, being burned alive...lots to choose from, and that's why we have so many lives, to have so many experiences, and to collectively add them all up, and grow from those experiences. I would not deny them to anyone. But that's only one way to look at it. if someone wants to live, by all means, that is more important, to help them stay alive.

They might all sound horrible, but to the spirit, they are all just moments of hypnotic subterfuge, wherein the soul believes that the physical body and those experiences are actually real. It's just an illusion. Why worry so much. You will never die, nor will the ones you love.

 

[Strainhunter]

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I would like to experience dying in many ways, not just one. Like perhaps, being eaten by a shark at sea. Falling off a tall building. Being poisoned and slow death. Being hanged. (Probably already done that in the 1800's), being raped to death, being eaten alive, being shredded by a papermill, being burned alive...lots to choose from,

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Dude...by all respect...WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU???????????????

Having a bad trip or something???

 

[medicalgreen]

Dude...by all respect...WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU???????????????

Having a bad trip or something???

a couple drinks, but nothing more. Why?

No, no bad trips or anything. You just gotta relax a little about life. It's not all it's cracked up to be. Ask a skeleton what he enjoys most about life. he will probably not tell you much.

Of course while you are alive, death seems horrid and awful, but while you are dead, in spirit form, life in the body is a real drag, and only used to accomplish learning tasks related to growth through experiences. You believe it's the most important thing in the world, and therefore it is. That's what makes life so important. But, in the reality of it all, it's insignificant, in relation to the spirit and the many lives you will live. While you are here, celebrate it as much as possible, because you came here for that purpose. But to believe it's truly the most important thing there is, is living under false illusion.

Personally, I would rather live 100 lives without fear of death, than one life in fear of death.

 

[Strainhunter]

a couple drinks, but nothing more.

Why?

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Damn'...you even have to ask?

^^^not an actual question.

 

[medicalgreen]

Damn'...you even have to ask?

^^^not an actual question.

You know....???

Do you consider yourself "spiritual" at all?

Not an insult at all, please forgive my directness.

I remember when I was about 5 years old, and I already knew what life was all about. I remembered being married and having children and all kinds of things. How did I know these things?

How do children today, know, at very young ages, where they lived before, so well, that they can bring their parents to the old places and look up family records, and find that a person named so and so, actually lived there at that time, and the child, who is only 4 or 5 already remembers all the details?

Once again, I ask you, do you consider yourself spiritual? And if so, how do you explain these phenomena, that are documented scientifically and proven worldwide?

 

[medicalgreen]

who was it who said this?

"Didn't mean to take up all your sweet time, give it back to you one of these days. .....

If I don't see you in this world, i'll meet you in the next one, and don't be late".....

Don't be late!

 

[Strainhunter]

You know....???

Do you consider yourself "spiritual" at all?

Not an insult at all, please forgive my directness.

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As for your question: No, not @ all.

And the other thing: You have some really really weird, strange and I don't know how else to say it death wishes!

I mean wanting to actually experience to be EATEN ALIVE, SHREDDED BY A PAPERMILL, DROWNING, BURNING...etc.

Oh and PS: You forgot to list wanting to be COOKED BY A MICROWAVE!
Must be pretty awesome!

I don't know what else to say man.......


Off to do a fishing charter, hopefully I won't have a report about someone gotten eaten by one of them many sharks around.
It's ugly, VERY ugly. Seen & salvaged several "left overs" over the years...

 

[medicalgreen]

As for your question: No, not @ all.

And the other thing: You have some really really weird, strange and I don't know how else to say it death wishes!

I mean wanting to actually experience to be EATEN ALIVE, SHREDDED BY A PAPERMILL, DROWNING, BURNING...etc.

Oh and PS: You forgot to list wanting to be COOKED BY A MICROWAVE!
Must be pretty awesome!

I don't know what else to say man.......


Off to do a fishing charter, hopefully I won't have a report about someone gotten eaten by one of them many sharks around.
It's ugly, VERY ugly. Seen & salvaged several "left overs" over the years...

Yeah, it sucks to think about, I agree. I prefer not to myself. Rather be fishing or doing something else equally gruesome to some other little animal or creature. But when a thread like this pops up and I feel like my opinion might be worth something to someone, I feel compelled t post it. Sorry if it bummed you out. Truly, please accept my apologies. Some people are just not meant to think about certain things, but this thread is about death and suicide and there are better ways to look at and view these things. Now go kill some fish, or help someone else to.

Oh BTW, ever see people in India, swimming in the Ganges, with dead bodies floating beside them? Ever wonder about that? Or you ever see look into Tantra, and the idea that everything comes from something and goes back into everything. Some people worldwide believe death is as important as life. But by all means, do not look into it, for Christs sake.

 

[Donald Trump]

why feel guilty if someone suicides that you are close to? It's pointless and un-healthy. It's a very bad thing but it was their own choice. If they killed themselves to make others intentionally feel bad then that is stupid; and it's your own fault for feeling guilty. If someone kills themselves because they don't want to live then that is that. Their choice. Either way you can't go through life feeling guilty to the point it kills who you are. If you feel responsible, you shouldn't. We all make many bad mistakes but we should learn and become better, even in bad situations like suicide, when you felt you had something to do with it. The person who killed themselves chose not to deal with the process of life, and changing and learning , and growing as a person. Nothing anyone can do about that or change that.

Suicide could even make others better themselves or want to better themselves. There's always dif meanings, outcomes, and effects. Let hate and guilt go. Grow and become better. Dial yourself in.

 

[longearedfriend]

Because I would like to understand what he meant...

 

[paladin420]

Because I would like to understand what he meant...

And I think to help IMHO

 

[paladin420]

You know one point I haven't really seen made is that sometimes, the result of hurting their family and messing up their lives is exactly the intended goal of teen suicide. Often times when a teen kills himself/herself it's because they feel nobody really understands or cares including their family. Of course the family often doesn't recognize where or how they let the suicidal teen down. Their perspective usually is that their behavior was perfectly fine and they have no clue as to how it could have happened. Even though the fact they didn't pick up on the clues and address/fix the issue before it led to suicide is in and of itself a clue as to what was wrong.

Hi HC. Some of that was mentioned on a side thread that offended/scared some cheesedick and was censored. Glad you brought it back up.
Teen sucide has a lot of the 'martyr' syndromes.

 

[mithra]

i actually read through whole thread again because i did not remember this post being here.

i have debated on this site about the pros and cons of cat piss and diesel fumes in a breeding program ........ nuff said

but that post is plain and simple FUCKING STUPID

there is no math in this and what you are "spewing" is raw unfiltered bullshit.

suicide is a human thing ....... get your mind around it

Why is it that cannabis boards seem to bring out the most closed off and conservative of people? I'v seen this issue discussed on many different boards, suicide and youth. And invariably when the FACT of young gays being at much higher risk of suicide is brought forward the party turns nasty. Hey no one is condoning or condemning homosexuality, it just a sad fact that gay youths have a higher probability to commit suicide than there straight friends.
Lets practice what the Herb teaches, tolerance and compassion. nough said.